Google's NEW Search Quality Guidelines (March 2017)

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  1. makingamark profile image69
    makingamarkposted 7 years ago

    This is worth a read Updated Google Quality Rater Guidelines target fake news, low quality and clickbait"

    It includes a link to Google's REVISED (March 2017) Search Quality - General Guidelines

    In terms of revisions to content rated as LOW QUALITY, the blog post highlights that revised guidelines highlight the following changes
    the following types of content have also been singled out:
    * Pages or websites which are untrustworthy, present unreliable information, or not accurate or are misleading
    * Factually incorrect content which may cause harm to the reader (for example inaccurate legal or medical information)
    * Pages or sites with no original content
    * Pages or websites promoting hate or violence (such as racism or sexism)


    It also highlights MISLEADING TITLES
    Under its definition of low quality main content, the search engine has now added titles to its definition of distracting or misleading content, adverts or supplementary information. The advice now acknowledges that, “Misleading titles can result in a very poor user experience when users click a link only to find that the page does not match their expectations.”

    1. theraggededge profile image87
      theraggededgeposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Thanks Katherine. It all sounds good but one of the comments makes a good point regarding content that may not reflect the accepted viewpoint. What happens to anyone who writes about 'alternative news'? I suppose they are at Google's mercy. We'll all be worshipping Google soon - sacrificing our first-born in order to placate the GGG.

    2. Ashish Dadgaa profile image44
      Ashish Dadgaaposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      @Katherine,

      Thank you, Katherine for sharing this with us.

    3. CatherineGiordano profile image76
      CatherineGiordanoposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      I'm not guilty of any of these "crimes", but it is good to know. Thanks for the heads up.

    4. jackclee lm profile image77
      jackclee lmposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Very interesting. So what is Google doing about spam sites?
      I am talking about sites that miss use our names and HubPages...
      For example "jack lee on hubpages"
      You will find a slew of websites with that as the title of an article with contents are giberish.
      Why are these sites not flagged or banned but showing up high on page ranking?
      That is part of the problem with quality issues.

      1. makingamark profile image69
        makingamarkposted 7 years agoin reply to this

        What should Google be doing?

        Not all pages get looked at all the time. Those with low quality content and/or low traffic get looked at very little. Google has an algorithm which recognises gibberish and buries sites as a result.

        You should only be concerned about sites which appear in response to popular search queries which affects access to content created by you and/or misleads people about the type of content you create.

        Remember, there's a ton of content out there which never appears in response to anything.

        If you've found something while doing a search on your own name, you're at liberty to report it to Google it if it is:
        1) masquerading as you
        2) stealing your content
        3) making money from your content.

        However you might want to reflect on whether this is a serious issue worthy of your time and effort or whether a wiser approach might be to check on the URLs again in (say) 3 months time and see if the page still exists.

        Also remember the only person who looks after your reputation on the Internet is you. Nobody is going to hold your hand and do it for you. You need to decide on what sort of strategy is the best use of your time.

        However, very helpful people do pop up in this forum (and others) from time to time and tell people to watch out for a specific domain which is stealing content.

        Rather than complaining about vague examples without details why not quote specific domain names (carefully - you don't want to link to them!!) and the problems you encountered and suggest others check them out also.

        1. jackclee lm profile image77
          jackclee lmposted 7 years agoin reply to this

          I have reported to google a few times with no results.
          Here are a few of the domain names...
          Edhardy-onsale.com
          Subcontinentaldub.com
          Artmimics.net
          Sigmamarketing.com
          My10000dollars.com

          Why is google having so hard a time getting rid of these sites?
          The other point I want to make is the fact some people are using our names and hubpages
          says something about our success. The only reason they go to the trouble of creating these sites is that they are riding on our success here on hubpages.
          Many of my hubs show up high in google page ranking, many on the first or second pages of google result pages. I have not promoted these hubs.
          They just do well as part of being part of the hubpages.com domain.

          1. makingamark profile image69
            makingamarkposted 7 years agoin reply to this

            Did you read the guidelines?
            Did you report in the correct way?
            Did you use the correct form?
            Did you prove the existence of your own site?

            You have also done precisely what I suggested you should NOT do - which is quote the domain names "as is".

            If you want to quote a domain name BREAK IT UP eg insert a space between the name part and the extension eg 'jackclee .com'

            re. your comments about creating new sites - are you not aware this is a completely automated / robotic process which tends to target very large sites as they "hoover" up content.

            1. jackclee lm profile image77
              jackclee lmposted 7 years agoin reply to this

              Mark, I am well aware of this which is exactly why I criticize google for not doing a better job from their end. If I can spot one of these sites in 2 seconds, why can't google? Perhaps they just don't care or don't want to for $$$$?

              1. makingamark profile image69
                makingamarkposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                My name is not Mark.

  2. lobobrandon profile image76
    lobobrandonposted 7 years ago

    Yup, thanks for sharing.

  3. makingamark profile image69
    makingamarkposted 7 years ago

    @TheRaggedEdge - Isn't the accepted viewpoint more related to the health issues - as in wanting to reduce the amount of quackery circulating via Google? (i.e. because of the potential damage it can do to people - thereby reducing Google's third party liability if they were to be sued? As in financial drivers are very often the reasons behind change.)

    Interesting that Google wants to downgrade some sites for fake news etc but are still content (on the Google Ads side of things) to decorate sites listed on Google which promote nasty people and nasty things. It's not just fake news they need to get rid of!

    Major UK companies are taking a stand on the latter and are withdrawing adverts from Google until they get this fixed. Their view - which I agree with - is adverts should ALWAYS be appropriate to content and you should NEVER mix brands with unacceptable material.  (Note - we have a very stiff standard on advertising in the UK - and the Regulators also have clout!)

    I suspect once Google Ads have got that sorted the NEXT UPDATE will be addressing this one for everybody else. Start the queue for people lining up to address this re. their own content/adverts....

    1. theraggededge profile image87
      theraggededgeposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Very likely, but this is also dangerous because of, for example, the erroneous dietary advice given out by the NHS over the last 40 years. We should always be able to access a wide range of information, not have it shut down by one search engine because of financial considerations.

      I'm not sure why anyone would sue Google because of information given on an independent website?

      Maybe we're talking at cross purposes here smile

    2. Margaret Schindel profile image97
      Margaret Schindelposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Katherine,

      U.S. advertisers are also pulling ads from Google for the same reason, and Google's recent announcement of policy changes to try to crack down on inappropriate ads and content and to give advertisers more control over where their ads appear, among other changes, does not appear to have stemmed the tide of advertiser departures.

      Big US advertisers unmoved by Google content crackdown

      Google knows (because it's being dealt a huge blow in the wallet) that it needs to get a lot more serious about cleaning up its own house. smile

      1. AlexK2009 profile image81
        AlexK2009posted 7 years agoin reply to this

        A long time a go I knew someone had built up a successful betting system in which (say) 90% of bets were made on form and 10% randomly, allowing for the unpredictable.  I woud have no problem with 10% of ads I was seeing being random and if an advertiser I would also be happy since I would be tapping the "Oh yes, I forgot about that"  and " I was going to look for that next" market. Similarly with news: I do not want everything delivered to me to put me in a bubble.

    3. Sherry Hewins profile image88
      Sherry Hewinsposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      I guess it is hard for a machine to decide what's good medical advice and what's not. They probably just go by whether it comes from a credentialed medical website, like WebMD or the Mayo Clinic.

      Those sites are great for general information, but they only go so far. A patient who has lived with a condition can give very useful advice people won't get from a medical website or from their overworked doctor.

      As long as they make it clear that they are not medical professionals, and they don't tell people to ignore their doctor's advice, I think it can be a good thing, However, I guess an algorithm can't tell that from quackery.

      1. Will Apse profile image90
        Will Apseposted 7 years agoin reply to this

        Personal testimony from patients with professionally treated medical conditions has always been considered valid but healdove contains a lot of advice for self diagnosis and home remedies. Not sure about those.

        I go on a lot about user metrics but there are areas where readers lap up stuff that is not good for them. Good advice can be at odds with popular advice.

      2. AlexK2009 profile image81
        AlexK2009posted 7 years agoin reply to this

        I do not write about health much but if I do I try to make it clear that readers should do their own research. 

        one problem is that leading edge research that counters the mainstream view is usually behind a pay wall. But untrustworthy information is easily available for free.

  4. Will Apse profile image90
    Will Apseposted 7 years ago

    Squidoo still gets a mention in the poor quality section:

    https://static.googleusercontent.com/me … Health.jpg

    1. lobobrandon profile image76
      lobobrandonposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      They should remain there forever, for all to see.

  5. Lipnancy profile image85
    Lipnancyposted 7 years ago

    Maybe I am taking this the wrong way but doesn't it sound like Google is trying to become one big CENSOR.  It does put hubpages in a bad spot. Do they allow writers freedom to write what they want? Or do they instruct editors to go overboard and vet every sentence?

    1. Will Apse profile image90
      Will Apseposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      These guidelines are a real challenge for HP. One of the things the raters are asked to do is establish the reputation of the sites they visit, the whole site, not just an individual page. They are asked to look for external evidence that the site is well regarded by authoritative publishers. That is tough for new sites like the niches.

      Also, of course, the close linking with the main HP site will catch anyone's eye and that association cannot be helpful.

      Just going back to the Squidoo ginger thing. They are plenty of pages here which are not much better:

      http://hubpages.com/search/?s=ginger+for+health

      1. Bedbugabscond profile image94
        Bedbugabscondposted 7 years agoin reply to this

        I saw these new guidelines. I am in the process of editing ALL of my articles. It doesn't matter if you're a brilliant writer or not. Time changes, language changes, facts change. Articles need to evolve as well. If you want to be relevant and trustworthy, then your articles need to be appropriate for the times. And Google MUST know that advertisements need to be appropriate too!!!!

        Also, when using Pinterest I followed a link that took me to a Google employees blog. It indicated that they want to see websites evolve as a whole. He basically said that a site that is willing to put in the hard work will be considered more trustworthy than one that won't adapt.

        1. Will Apse profile image90
          Will Apseposted 7 years agoin reply to this

          There is the question of how far a site like this can genuinely adapt. Google is looking for authoritative articles but HP writers are prone to:

          See HP as a place to air their prejudices without necessarily understanding the evidence-based perspectives that are available. Some prejudices are genuinely toxic.

          or

          Make a little money writing stuff they think might appeal to someone but they personally do not care about or understand.

          or

          Deal with personal issues

          Also, many writers are absolute amateurs in every sense. They lack writing skills as well, as expert knowledge and the capacity to present balanced articles.

          Staff have decided to adapt by selecting the best articles and placing them on the niches, but this only works if the pool of talent on HP is deep enough. For Healdove it may never be enough and you have to fear for Toughnickel, Wehavekids and, even, Owlcation.

          1. Bedbugabscond profile image94
            Bedbugabscondposted 7 years agoin reply to this

            I agree. My head dove article is about comparing insect bites with bed bug bites. I never really meant for it to be a medical article, but that is what any rash is classified under. My traffic on other sites is going up since edits, I am lost as what to do about that article.

            Great points will. So much to think about!! I wish I could wrap my mind about how the algorithm deals with subjective issues and expertise.

        2. DzyMsLizzy profile image91
          DzyMsLizzyposted 7 years agoin reply to this

          The facts change on some things, such as accepted treatments.

          However, the facts do not and cannot change when an article is written from personal experience; e.g., my Hub on knee replacement surgery.

          That happened, it's over and done with, in the past.  There is no changing or updating that can be done.  It remains what it is, and explains what was.

          1. Glenn Stok profile image95
            Glenn Stokposted 7 years agoin reply to this

            You can add an update explaining how you are a year or five years later. Did the surgery have consequences that you discovered later? Have you have your full life back again? There really is so much you can keep adding to the hub as time goes on. I did that with my health related hubs, and I plan to keep adding as time goes one. You can too.

      2. Sherry Hewins profile image88
        Sherry Hewinsposted 7 years agoin reply to this

        Hmm, I notice those all say Hubpages, not Healdove. I searched Healdove for ginger, and did find articles that mention it as a treatment for certain conditions, but not any that were just generally about the healing properties of ginger.

        1. Bedbugabscond profile image94
          Bedbugabscondposted 7 years agoin reply to this

          Would an article about healing properties be judged less harshly than articles about treating conditions?

          1. Sherry Hewins profile image88
            Sherry Hewinsposted 7 years agoin reply to this

            Well, the articles on Healdove are not hyping ginger, just mentioning it as one option among many. The articles about ginger are just about all the great things ginger is supposed to do.

            When one thing is touted as curing a long list of problems, that's a clue.

            1. Bedbugabscond profile image94
              Bedbugabscondposted 7 years agoin reply to this

              The Guideline mentions Your Money Your Life pages. Medical pages are one type of YMYL page. I keep inspecting the language used in the Google Quality Rater Guidelines, thinking I might suddenly understand what changes are needed.

              I did notice the mention of images. It says that spammy and overused images should lower rating. I have been trying to replace my old pictures with new, better ones.

            2. Will Apse profile image90
              Will Apseposted 7 years agoin reply to this

              There are two points:

              We would all like to see hubpages.com recover and cleaning it up might help.

              Is associating Healdove so closely with hubpages.com a good idea, when there are a lot of very poor article still in place?

              1. Bedbugabscond profile image94
                Bedbugabscondposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                Two points:

                How do you clean up a site where so many users go MIA for months and years at a time.

                Honestly, I don't think it's a good idea to for them to have a close association.

                1. Will Apse profile image90
                  Will Apseposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                  These are the links from one healdove page. Over a third point at hubpages.com:
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                  1. Bedbugabscond profile image94
                    Bedbugabscondposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                    I don't know what any of that means.

                    But I just found a couple of paragraphs in the Google Quality Guidelines that may be very relevant to healdove somehow.

                    Please see:
                    Page 19 Section 3.2 The two paragraphs below the bullet points.

                    It seems to suggest that we should only write medical information that relates to direct personal experience. This will reflect, and translate to being an expert.

                    Now I feel like I should change my healdove article so it emphasizes my expertise through life experience.

                    Will, can you read that section and share your thoughts? I would REALLY appreciate it?

                  2. AliciaC profile image94
                    AliciaCposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                    Very interesting, Will! It looks like my article. It's one of the hubs that I have open for editing, so the links may change. I'm going to look at your analysis carefully, though.

                  3. Sherry Hewins profile image88
                    Sherry Hewinsposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                    Wow, that's a lot of links!

    2. AlexK2009 profile image81
      AlexK2009posted 7 years agoin reply to this

      If google is becoming a censor they are assuming liability for what they let through.

      1. makingamark profile image69
        makingamarkposted 7 years agoin reply to this

        When were they ever not a censor? The whole Google algorithm censors by deciding what gets seen and what gets buried.

        All they've ever done is continuously refine and spell out - more and more emphatically - what they mean - given huge numbers of people ignore them most of the time.

        When people don't listen and/or ignore them they kick sites instead until people wake up and read the detail.

  6. WryLilt profile image86
    WryLiltposted 7 years ago

    I'm worried about this impacting my content and sites for a few reasons, since I write in the pregnancy/birth niche.

    -I write articles using bait and switch titles such as "How do I do [stupid thing]" then the article covers why you shouldn't.
    -I write a lot of borderline medical articles, but they usually reference multiple studies and cite doctors and midwives (but I'm a doula, not a medical professional).
    -Do listicles come under clickbait? How is clickbait defined? There's extreme clickbait, but what about midway clickbait which gets the reader excited but is mostly accurate in its description?


    Time to really get into my food website building methinks!

    1. Bedbugabscond profile image94
      Bedbugabscondposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Clickbait is broadly defined in the dictionary. I don't know that you're guilty of clickbait. I think that the area you are concerned about is classified as misleading titles.

      Go to the Google quality rating guidelines and use Ctrl+F and look for the words "Misleading Titles". It should be easy to get to section 6, which answers a few of your questions. It starts on page 31.

  7. Nell Rose profile image88
    Nell Roseposted 7 years ago

    I don't think I have violated any of these things but still have lost three quarters of my views! so disappointing, its a bit like filling a bucket with water only to find the bucket has holes!

    1. Bedbugabscond profile image94
      Bedbugabscondposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Nell, you do a really good job at showing your expertise by emphasizing personal experience. According to the Google quality rating guidelines, that is exactly the kind of real-life medical advice that matters.

      In the new guidelines, it makes it clear that medical advice should come from professionals,

      "High quality medical advice should come from people or organizations with appropriate medical expertise or accreditation"

      BUT

      It goes on to state the value of life experience. In your article about bipolar and Asperger's, you are showing your real life expertise. By the way, my son has Asperger's, so I love that article.

      The bad news

      The new acronym for quality is E-A-T.  Expertise, authoritativeness, trustworthy.  Even if you nail one and two, your excellent articles may still be penalized under trustworthiness.

      From what I understand it looks like trustworthiness has many factors. But there are two main ones:

      Website reputation
      Main content

      We have to be realistic about this. They use plain English to let us know that the reputation of Hubpages matters. You can do one of two things:

      Move your content somewhere else, which would suck for us because we need people like you with good reputations.

      OR

      Encourage changes at Hubpages that will help us earn trustworthiness. The Hubpages links issue is an example of a change that may need to be made to gain back trustworthiness.

      But, that doesn't solve anything. Google wants the people who are responsible for the website to be transparent. So even if Hubpages and Healdove are not cross linking (which it probably shouldn't) the association must still be obvious.

      So, even if the link issues are fixed, Hubpages reputation still matters for niche sites.

      1. Nell Rose profile image88
        Nell Roseposted 7 years agoin reply to this

        Thanks Bedbugs smile

  8. Will Apse profile image90
    Will Apseposted 7 years ago

    With medical sites, absolutely everything has to be professional. And if you have a smattering of genuinely medical articles then it is likely to be judged as a medical site.

    With Healdove you move from this:

    https://healdove.com/disease-illness/Di … rt-attacks

    to this:

    https://healdove.com/alternative-medici … f-the-Body

    If you removed the medical advice articles, you could simple go for an alternative health site (a more appropriate level of expertise for HP writers in my view), or a' personal experiences of healthcare' type site.

    I am sure they will try to save Healdove as it is, but reconsidering the whole nature and purpose of the site might be necessary.

  9. Jife Krom profile image61
    Jife Kromposted 7 years ago

    That's a lot to do and to remember.

  10. julieann26 profile image74
    julieann26posted 7 years ago

    I wonder what Google does in regards to news or other sites that re-post articles and stories that are under the Creative Commons Licence?  Government sites here in Australia for example, post news and press releases that you can re-post in full on your own website, thus making it not original.  I'm guessing you have to add something somewhere on your website that is original so that Google will pick it up.

    1. ChristinS profile image37
      ChristinSposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Yes of course, there's no point in Google indexing sites that just repost non-original material when that information is already available on government sites.  One way around that might be to do a commentary on a news article and then link the article, but that can also lead to content that becomes dated quickly and isn't the evergreen material that ranks better. 

      I think the gist of the whole thing here is original, authoritative content that helps the reader.  I'm really not sure why Google needs over 100 pages to explain that concept honestly.

  11. Nell Rose profile image88
    Nell Roseposted 7 years ago

    I just noticed something really odd about daily views. Ever since mine dropped like a stone, every few days it comes back to the same number! weird! for example say I got 1458 in a day, then day after day I get 1458! and its not stuck because it goes up and down apart from that! and let me just say, I have had a lot higher and lower since then.

  12. HoneyBB profile image88
    HoneyBBposted 7 years ago

    This may be like apples and oranges but I noticed that mturk is in the lists of domains that have been reading my articles for over a month. I clicked on the link to see who it was and it's Amazon's Mechanical Turk. So, who has hired mturk to read my work? I tried to apply for a job doing this after I clicked on the link and it said they could not hire me and they could not reveal the reason why they could not hire me. Has anyone else seen mturk in the lists of domains reading your hubs? Could this be part of the quality process google or others are using to rate our hubs?

    1. WryLilt profile image86
      WryLiltposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Hubpages uses Mturk to check the quality of hubs before they are featured.

      I'm in Australia and have an approved worker Mturk account. I'm not sure why they'd reject you - could it be to do with tax laws in your state?

      1. HoneyBB profile image88
        HoneyBBposted 7 years agoin reply to this

        Oh, thank you, taxes might be the reason...not sure but I know I wasn't able to use Amazon capsules on my hubs because I'm in Illinois...I'm not sure if that has changed but that's how it was 4 years ago when I started writing on hp.

  13. Jesse Drzal profile image86
    Jesse Drzalposted 7 years ago

    I do work on Mturk, to review Hubs you have to pass a standard test. It's actually pretty hard most do not get accepted to do it.

    1. HoneyBB profile image88
      HoneyBBposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Thanks Jesse, They didn't even give me the option of taking the test. I'm pretty good at test taking so I would have loved the opportunity.

      1. Jesse Drzal profile image86
        Jesse Drzalposted 7 years agoin reply to this

        Do you have a Mturk account? Pretty sure they let me take the test when I first joined..perhaps they changed it's been a little while.

        1. HoneyBB profile image88
          HoneyBBposted 7 years agoin reply to this

          I registered after following the link that was under my "Traffic Sources" in Hubpages so maybe it didn't show me the test because of the way I came to it. Thanks Jesse, I might go back in there and see if I can find where the test is and see if I can take it and see what happens from there.

          1. Jesse Drzal profile image86
            Jesse Drzalposted 7 years agoin reply to this

            Mturk takes a few days sometimes to verify new accounts...stick tight.

            1. HoneyBB profile image88
              HoneyBBposted 7 years agoin reply to this

              Thanks Jesse, I will wait it out.

              1. Jesse Drzal profile image86
                Jesse Drzalposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                Sure thing..Good luck!!

  14. Nell Rose profile image88
    Nell Roseposted 7 years ago

    HI, sorry this got me interested, what is Mturk, and do we earn from it if we are accepted? never heard of it before, thanks

    1. HoneyBB profile image88
      HoneyBBposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      mturk is Amazon Mechanical Turk - If you go to mturk.com you can learn more about it. When you go to that link, the blue side is for people looking to be employed and the orange side is for employers...Something went wrong with my registration as it never allowed me to take a test to get approved but there are different job things you can do if you get approved.

    2. WryLilt profile image86
      WryLiltposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Mturk is a big crowdsourcing platform run by Amazon. Basically, people are paid pennies to do tiny tasks - such as 5c to copy down information off a scanned receipt. There are many forums and apps devoted to making the most off Mturk. On average, people can earn from $5-15USD/hour, depending on their speed.

      Hubpages is an employer on Mturk, so if you signed up as a worker, you could work rating hubs.

      1. HoneyBB profile image88
        HoneyBBposted 7 years agoin reply to this

        Thank you wrylit for clarifying that...I haven't worked for them so I wasn't really sure about the specifics to truly be able to explain what it's all about.

  15. Nell Rose profile image88
    Nell Roseposted 7 years ago

    Thanks for all your answers, I will have to go and take a look, how come I never know about these things? LOL! smile

 
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