Get Traffic, Backlinks and Have Fun

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   TopHubsposted 16 years ago

   There is a new website that is all about HubPages Hubs where people can share their Hubs and vote for the ones they like.
   
   This website also provides a backlink so it's useful for getting better search engine positions. Share your old Hubs and if you make a new one add it to TopHubs:
   
   tophubs.com
   
   (I hope this topic isn't considered as spam but as something useful for the whole HubPages community.)

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   relacheposted 16 years ago

   Since I have no idea who is running that site, and since it seems to be attached to a persona here that shows no info and absolutely no hubs built, I'm going to avoid that site like the plague.

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   Mishaposted 16 years ago

   Interesting idea. And even might work at the end. But, as Relache mentioned, you've chosen the wrong way to promote it, thus greatly complecating your task. If I were you, I would:
   
   1. Approach Hubpages team to get their approval and possibly recieve and incorporate their comments;
   2. Make several hubs myself;
   3. Become an active and recognized member of this community...
   
   and then start promoting...

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   Whitney05posted 16 years ago

   I third what's already been mentioned... Great Idea though... Contact the HubPage team. I'd gladly join once all is well...
   
   And, as Misha, stated. It would help if you had hubs and such...

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   compu-smartposted 16 years ago

   I have just joined!! Not sure of the reputaion it has but i just jumped right in which is the story of my life. lol
   

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   pauldeedsposted 16 years ago

   We don't have any particular problem with someone setting up a site like that, but not knowing much about it or who is behind it we can't really endorse it either.  You'll each have to make your own decision about whether you find it useful or worth your time.

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      makemoneyonlineposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      I had an idea like that but it's not me . But currently I can't see yet much difference with the hubs links that exist on hubpages here:
      http://hubpages.com/hubs/hot/
      
      Now I will join and will make a review of it after 1 week, 1 month, 3 months, 6 months etc. to see if I get improved traffic from it.
      
      And yes I find a bit weird that the guy has never setup any hubs and want to promote them ?

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   Mark Knowlesposted 16 years ago

   I just wonder what value a backlink from this site is worth? I also took a look and it seems the sort of in between site that gets in between your hub and a potential reader to me. Too many times, I go to a website, only to discover it's just a site with a link to what I really want and no info of it's own and I have just wasted a visit.

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   stubbsposted 16 years ago

   i think it looks pretty good.
   
   REMEMBER don't use the same username and password for that as for hubpages itself. they could login as you on hubpages enter they're own adsense code and be reaping the rewards of your work. i don't know if that is their plan.

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      compu-smartposted 16 years agoin reply to this

      Ooops.!!

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   Ryan_Westposted 16 years ago

   Hello everyone,
   
   My name is Ryan West and I am the one who's behind this project. I've been observing HubPages for a while now and I do have one Hub about snowboarding (my biggest passion). Been too busy to make more but I certainly add more in the future.
   
   I actually sent 2 emails to HubPages team, but since I got no answers in 48 hours I decided to act on my own.
   
   (Never can't be too cautious but I ensure you that your passwords are 100% encrypted and unavailable for admin)
   
   Thanks for the feedback,
   Ryan

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    relacheposted 16 years ago

    Having looked at your one Hub here, Ryan, I'm still still dissuaded from using the new site. 
    
    I get plenty of traffic from HubPages and Hub users directly and I feel that any efforts I might put forth to create backlinks will be better spent doing it at sites that have a much broader focus and large, established user bases.

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    Isabella Snowposted 16 years ago

    I'm not really sure why one of my hubs is listed there, but I think I'd kind of prefer if it wasn't.

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       Ryan_Westposted 16 years agoin reply to this

       Sorry about that. I needed few hubs for an example. I removed all of them now.

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    Mishaposted 16 years ago

    Guys,
    
    I wouldn't be that harsh on the site owner. He made a mistake - and he is actively trying to correct it. Mistakes really do not matter, what matters is how person deals with them. I like how he does it
    
    As for the value of the links from that site - right now those links are close to nothing. But - every site was in that position when it started, including Hubpages. The idea of using pligg (digg-like engine) and restricting it to hubpages definitely has a merit, and will eventually play out if done properly. In a year or so you might very well compete for the place on the homepage of that site... And you can always be sure they are not going to block hubpages links
    
    PS I have no affiliation with the guy, never met him before, and I saw that thing today for the first time in my life - just a disclaimer

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    jimmythejockposted 16 years ago

    I like the idea of your site but, wouldn't it be better for you commercialy if you expanded it out to more than hubpages, you could maybe cash in if you added other paid to write sites like squidoo for example.
    I wish you lots of luck with the site......JIMMY

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    Ryan_Westposted 16 years ago

    Indeed at the moment the link value is zero because this site is so new, but it will progress
    
    Actually the real purpose of this website is to discover great Hubs, give them credit and share your fancy looking Hubs with others. Good Hubs and active members are always welcome!

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       jimmythejockposted 16 years agoin reply to this

       Then what is the point of your site, if you really want to find good hubs, then why not visit the source rather than a middle man, click on hot hubs and there you will find the upcoming stories. Click on best and you will find the top rated stories, click on latest and you will find the most recent hubs.
       I can get backlinks from digg, del.ici.ous and many other link sharing sites.
       If you kept up to date with what is happening here, you would find that most of hubpages visitors already come from search engines, hubpages has its own rating system, which also weeds out the good hubs from the bad.
       thumbs up and thumbs down give us a personal view of how people rate our hubs.
       and the comment capsules give us an idea where we went right or wrong.
       I still wish you sucess in your endevour but count me out for now, take care.....jimmy

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    darksideposted 16 years ago

    I'd have used the blue, green and red (sparingly) as a colour scheme for your site. Keep the predominantly grey look, but make it feel like an extension of HubPages (I did the same for Squidoo at www.lensroll.com)
    
    The name is good. Short and sweet. Descriptive and appropriate.
    
    And while having one hub seems really... well skimpy, I'd have made it one to be really proud of. It's a good hub, I think it's got the makings of being a GREAT hub. Give people more than just the option of a link to a clickbank product.
    
    And I would have been more heavily involved in the forum here at HubPages before launching such a site. It would have resulted in a lot less "Who The Hell Are You?".

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    Ryan_Westposted 16 years ago

    Different rating systems Jimmy. Hubscore is calculated using at least five different factors. TopHubs only uses human ratings, which I just personally prefer more.
    
    Darkside, yes the idea of using similar colour scheme crossed my mind. I made my first Hub before the idea of creating a pligg project so yes it isn't quite perfect.
    
    Thanks for the thoughts!

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    Lissieposted 16 years ago

    It looks an awful lot like bloggingzoom.com - same look, same functionality, same categories same submission process, same concept of allowing people to vote for their own work.  Bloggingzoom is specifically about allowing people to promote their own blogs so excludes sites such as HP.  I do think though that TH could have done something similar without ripping off blogigingzoom's intellectual property

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       Mishaposted 16 years agoin reply to this

       Lissie,
       They did not rip anybody
       They both used the same free software to build the site. There are literally dozens of similar sites on the internet now...

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       darksideposted 16 years agoin reply to this

       No IP has been ripped off.
       
       They are both powered by Pligg.

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          darksideposted 16 years agoin reply to this

          I've just noticed that there has been ample discussion on page two of this thread pointing out the Pligg connection.

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          Lissieposted 16 years agoin reply to this

          
          I never heard of Pligg before  - i've been on bloggingzoom since their launch and genuinely thought that they had done something new!  Sorry Ryan
          Cheers
          Lis

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    Lissieposted 16 years ago

    The same categories? The same submission process? I am sure the underlying technology is the same - which doesn't matter - every forum uses the same software too - but   I would think that you could make the site look different!

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    Mark Knowlesposted 16 years ago

    Personally, I question the motivation behind this idea. Seems to me the motivation is not to bring attention to the best hubs, but to make some money off of other people's work. `We all like hubpages and there is a rating system already in place. What's to stop me from opening 200 accounts and voting for me me me?
    
    Just the way all the other "social bookmarking " sites are going. And it's one more friggin password and login to remember

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    Ryan_Westposted 16 years ago

    Lissie these categories are the most general ones that cover almost all fields.
    
    Take a look at this directory http://pliggsites.com there are at the moment 248 websites that look very similar, all built on the same engine. If you compare BlogginZoom and TopHubs then these sites are actually like fire and ice
    
    Indeed Mark why do we even need social bookmarking sites

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    Mark Knowlesposted 16 years ago

    As darkside pointed out, if you were a regular contributor, this idea would probably be more readily accepted, but as you aren't there is a good reason to question it. And I personally question it because anyone interested enough in hubpages already has a voice here. So why another, outside system. My feeling is it will dilute what we have already. But as jimmy said, good luck.

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    darksideposted 16 years ago

    Here's a bit of background information, Pligg is a free platform inspired by Digg.
    
    It can be used quite effectively. Will I use TopHubs.com? Most likely no, as I am extremely busy with not only writing articles for HubPages but also Squidoo and dabbling a little at Gather, a tiny bit at Associated Content and am considering LaunchTags.
    
    On TOP of that I also do lensroll.com which is built with Pligg. And am working on a Link Directory site. Which will be open to Hub Authors, Lensmasters and also users of the other sites I mentioned above.
    
    I had considered not long after the launch of lensroll.com to do a hubroll.com
    
    Lensroll is doing very well. But I launched it after being with Squidoo for a year and I was also a moderator at SquidU at the time. On top of that Squidoo HQ were aware of the project and even plugged it in their newsletter.
    
    My biggest advantage is that my lensroll.com partner (Greg) is VERY good with SEO. He's been tracking the results that lensroll has been having at the major search engines and is a wealth of knowledge and information and very hands on for improving results. Pligg has also had a hiccup or two with bugs which Greg has managed to fix or sort out.
    
    TopHubs.com can turn out to be a valuable backlink for your hubs. Every little bit helps. It'll be coming from a unique IP address. And as a community grows the best of the best can rise to the top simply by giving a thumbs down to the crap (and I suggest you block all non hubpages.com domains to cut down on the amount of spam you're likely to get).
    
    If TopHubs Users make an effort to write an original description for their submissions it will go a LONG way towards making an impression on the Search Engines. If instead they decide to just copy and paste the intro it will have less of an effect. So make the most from the opportunity.

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    darksideposted 16 years ago

    On second thoughts... I probably will sign up at TopHubs.com, as I'll be writing reviews for all my own best hubs for the Link Directory I'm working on, so while I'm at it I'll rejig the descriptions so I've got two versions.
    
    Also... it'll give me another outlet for promoting my Flagship Hubs.
    
    Just promise me Ryan that you'll keep it kosher when promoting TopHubs elsewhere on the world wide web and you don't get lumbered with a negative reputation.

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    Marisa Wrightposted 16 years ago

    I'd never heard of Launchtags so I thought I'd check it out.  Unfortunately the first article that presented itself turned out to be on colon cleansing - with VERY graphic photos!
    
    suddenly not feeling like lunch...

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       darksideposted 16 years agoin reply to this

       Now that's not a good start. Ewwww.
       
       Another interesting site is http://www.instructables.com
       
       Though it doesn't have revenue sharing.

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    gamergirlposted 16 years ago

    I think if Hubpages gets more attention because of offshoot projects, then it's all good.  Either way, I'm in.  A new avenue of self-promotion is ok by me.

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    Hoodalaposted 16 years ago

    Lissie that is an incredible accusation you made about him ripping off someone’s intellectual property.  It was obviously meant as a mean hearted statement to subvert his website, but beyond that it is wrong and possibly libelous.  The platform he used for the site is open source software that is freely available to anyone who chooses to use it, and bloggingzoom has no intellectual property rights to an idea.  I know that piracy and intellectual property right are all the rage right now.  Big words that people can throw around without actually having any idea what they mean, but until you have done sufficient homework on the subject you might want to be careful what you accuse someone of.
    
    A site like that can only make hubpages better in the long run and as dedicated hubbers we should all do what we can to support the growth of hubpages.  As long as tophubs doesn’t get over run by the spammers it could be a real asset to us all.  The minute he gets desperate enough to allow the spammy hubs in though it will become useless.

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    darksideposted 16 years ago

    Hoodala, I don't think Lissie was throwing an accusation due to being mean spirited. While it was rather emotional I would have given her the benefit of the doubt before even reading Lissie's most recent post.
    
    In the past I've seen people attack another forum because they're mistakenly thought that their forum was built from scratch (though they were using vBulletin).
    
    It happens.
    
    You live, you learn.
    
    I have noticed that there's no mention of Pligg anywhere on BloggingZoom, though it is indeed a Pligg powered site.
    
    I think that TopHubs should have the Published Hubs, Upcoming Hubs and Submit a New Hub buttons looking more like tabs. A tab, in my opinion, is a far more enticing click then a button. It's like "ooo, what's behind there!".

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    embitcaposted 16 years ago

    The difference with TopHubs and Lensroll is Darkside already had a solid reputation on Squidoo before building it. As far as I can tell, that's the only mistake Ryan's made. Not building his own presence here first.
    
    I'm assuming we are all in this to make money. If Ryan has enough SEO skill to get some traffic, his site is another useful backlink. Benefits us, benefits him. I have no problem with people making money.

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    Mishaposted 15 years ago

    Just wanted to let everybody know - right now posting to this site does not give you any benefits. All the links are indirect, and search engines will *not* count them...

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    Ryan_Westposted 15 years ago

    This website has no PR yet, but what do you mean by "indirect"?

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    Mishaposted 15 years ago

    Indirect means they are in the form of http://tophubs.com/out.php?title=... instead of http://hubpages.com/hub/....
    
    Pligg can be configured in a number of different ways, so read your manual I know direct links are possible, cause there are sites that use them, for example http://wagg.it ...

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    Ryan_Westposted 15 years ago

    Done! Problem solved!
    
    Thanks for the tip.

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    Mishaposted 15 years ago

    Yep, now it's good
    
    You are welcome

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    Sqoo Mediaposted 15 years ago

    I'm rather new to HubPages (only got 3 hubs so far) but from experience with all sorts of web2 applications, the best place to start promoting is within the community you which to promote with which is HubPages itself. Why not write a hub about your site and then promote that?

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    blerimposted 15 years ago

    Great post

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    College politicoposted 15 years ago

    I joined and I think its something that has some potential...

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    Rudraposted 15 years ago

    It gained a PR 3 pretty quickly

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    bccsposted 15 years ago

    well yeah..thanks anyway.. I'll check it out later maybe it could help

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    Sqoo Mediaposted 15 years ago

    Hmm summat I still don't understand, where is the revenue generation in all of this?
    
    If I develop a site it is either for fun or I want to make money. In this case I cant see that this would have been done for fun as the site is not really used by developer so where does the money come from?
    
    It seems to have had an awful lot of IM for a non money generating site, hence the PR3!

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    Whitney05posted 15 years ago

    I'm thinking about joining, but only if the link has been changed to catch search engines eye, so to speak. Has this been done?

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    Mishaposted 15 years ago

    Whitney, this has been fixed

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    Whitney05posted 15 years ago

    Thanks Misha. I was sure at first. But now I see where he says he's fixed it.

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    tagtopicsposted 15 years ago

    There are a few hubbers with 90+ hubscores posting here, which makes me think this site is certainly getting some serious interest.
    
    Does anyone have any experience of this site improving their result?

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       College politicoposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       Well... the site is just starting out so not all that many people belong to it yet. so far ive had about 15 views from tophubs... but hopefully with time that will change.

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    broalexposted 15 years ago

    As Mark says that site will do nothing but some waste of time , people who want to promote their hubs can easily do it with the Social Bookmarking sites , try www.onlywire.com for example  , or any of the www.technorati.com , www.digg.com , www.reddit.com , www.del.icio.us.com.
    
    Some more information on Social Networking Sites and Tips about blogging are provided on the link below !
    
    http://hubpages.com/hub/Make-money-on-Hubpages
    
    http://hubpages.com/hub/How-to-get-more … -your-Blog (Get More Traffic TIPS)
    
    Good Luck Everyone!

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       College politicoposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       The biggest problem with sites like digg and reddit (and I use them as I outlined in
       <snip>no affiliate links in forums
       </Snip>
       my latest hubis that they are either too massive for you to get anywhere without a whole lot of time spent building a friend network (a rather large one too) or they are too small or hard to use and will give you no traffic. With the massive ones its really somewhat of a crap shoot... you may get lucky and score big.
       
       I like this site because it has potential to grow but since its hubpages specific you'll probably always have a chance of getting noticed. Plus Hubpages doesn't currently have a user-input system of judging hubs. (Its part of the hubscore but the info isn't available to users)

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    Mark Knowlesposted 15 years ago

    Yes, Misha was correct. Continually posting a link to the same questionable quality hub is spam. My mistake - overly promotional was wrong.
    

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    Mishaposted 15 years ago

    What do you think should we start flagging her, or we can shut her down ourselves?

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    Mark Knowlesposted 15 years ago

    She will not bow to any sort of reasonable argument, so I guess flag.

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    Mishaposted 15 years ago

    Here you go! I never flagged anybody on Hubpages yet. Politico broke my virginity

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    ZainyDadposted 15 years ago

    Just read this thread before I made a post and glad I did. I’m new to HubPages (2 weeks) and have been thinking of doing a digg site for awhile and thought I would do a niche site for HubPages and did (almost complete). And was going to post it here for some feed back on the site before completion. Now I will just ask anyone wishing to take a look please contact me though HubPages and I’ll send you the link. I will also be doing a HubPage with the information.

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