Why some hubbers have multiple accounts on HubPages?

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   anujagarwalposted 16 years ago

   It seems some of the persons here have multiple accounts with different names. What is the motto behind this?

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      AEvansposted 16 years agoin reply to this

      Because they can.

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         badcompany99posted 16 years agoin reply to this

         So summed up in 3 words, what a woman !

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            AEvansposted 16 years agoin reply to this

            I thought you would like that!!

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               badcompany99posted 16 years agoin reply to this

               AE in the words of Carly Simon " Nobody Does It Better "
               
               Hope you are well my friend, you were in my thoughts yesterday.

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   wordscribe41posted 16 years ago

   Different profiles assist people with multiple niches.

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      anujagarwalposted 16 years agoin reply to this

      Good reason if this is the case. Or does it also help in clicking the ads from other profile.

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         webismineposted 16 years agoin reply to this

         Clicking on one's own ads is not advisable, google can trace them with IP address.

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            anujagarwalposted 16 years agoin reply to this

            Means if a single IP is shared among multiple users like in case of big organizations, and someone logged-in on HP. Clicks from other users will be treated as invalid clicks even though they are valid.

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         badcompany99posted 16 years agoin reply to this

         Duhhh that would be really smart wouldn't it, different niches or topics I would think. Like what fool clicks their own adsense ads with the same ip address, you been online long ?

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            anujagarwalposted 16 years agoin reply to this

            Is it one valid click per IP? OR No Valid Clicks if once logged-in by that IP.

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               frogdroppingposted 16 years agoin reply to this

               Don't be so interested in clicking those little suckers. The only thing thats gonna get you is banned. Seriously. There's no way around false clicking.

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                  Silver Roseposted 16 years agoin reply to this

                  I second this. Adsense will have logged your IP address when you set up your account, and they probably log it everytime you sign in.
                  
                  Now there are 6 billion people on the planet - what are the odds that someone with the same IP address as yours ends up clicking your ads? Infinitesmal. Therefore if they see this pattern, they will immediately assume click fraud.
                  
                  The only decent clicks to get are those that come from complete strangers via the search engines, preferably from a city, state or continent miles away from yours!

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                     sixtyorsoposted 16 years agoin reply to this

                     International Ip adresses are totally unique, there are no duplicates. This is why the Ip addressing standard changed recently in order to accomodate additional Ip numbers!

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               badcompany99posted 16 years agoin reply to this

               Ok I am typing this from work ok, I also type from home and have posted a hub from a friends house. Google Adsense will know all 3 ips link back to that person, and if you even attempt to click you risk the chance of losing your account.
               
               Trust me my friend Google are no fools, as to your question I myself have an alter-ego but only for the purpose of a different niche. Hope that helps !

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                  anujagarwalposted 16 years agoin reply to this

                  If you are posting from office, and any colleague from your office clicks on any ad. So it does not mean you are trying to fool Google. But if your account gets blocked, and you never clicked on any ad, who is at fault dear.

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                     badcompany99posted 16 years agoin reply to this

                     Only call me Dear at the weekends ok, or perhaps meet me some day and call me Dear to my face and see what happens, yeah ?

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                        wordscribe41posted 16 years agoin reply to this

                        LMAO! 

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                        rastrotherposted 16 years agoin reply to this

                        man you should know not to mess with bc, havent you ever heard of the multiple personality thing?

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                        CabinGirlposted 16 years agoin reply to this

                        Lol I think he thinks your cute Captain, remember that guy in Soho who called you Dear, what a pain in the ass he was

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                        anujagarwalposted 16 years agoin reply to this

                        just few hours and weekend is there to knock

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                     dingdongposted 16 years agoin reply to this

                     Not just the clicks, I hope google has more things to study before accusing someone for invalid clicks(or click fraud).

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                        anujagarwalposted 16 years agoin reply to this

                        I hope so, otherwise there will loads of blocked accounts on a daily basis.

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                           CabinGirlposted 16 years agoin reply to this

                           Omg that sounds awful, all those accounts closing daily, it's shocking to think of !

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         guidebabaposted 16 years agoin reply to this

         You can try this even with 1000s of different IDs. Your account will get banned within 15 days. I Bet. Google has different formulas to check fraud clicks. If making money with adsense was that easy, I would have become a millionaire by now.

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         Jeniferrposted 16 years agoin reply to this

         Anujagarwal,
         
         Why would you need a second or third HubPages account to click the ads on your other hubs?  Ads are shown regardless if the person is a member of HubPages or not. 
         
         If a person wanted to try and cheat the system, they wouldn't need to log into another account to do so.  I think you're making a big deal out of nothing.

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            anujagarwalposted 16 years agoin reply to this

            Jeniferr, I do not want to click on my ads, I was just curious to know why some persons use multiple accounts. And from the discussion so far, it is understood that multiple accounts being used to cover different niches...

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               Jeniferrposted 16 years agoin reply to this

               Anugagarwal,
               
               It was a hypothetical question, used to dispel the notion that people create secondary accounts for such activity.

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      badcompany99posted 16 years agoin reply to this

      Smart thinking Batman

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         wordscribe41posted 16 years agoin reply to this

         Why, thank you, Robin.

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            badcompany99posted 16 years agoin reply to this

            Nice tights

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               wordscribe41posted 16 years agoin reply to this

               You should see me without the tights, mate. 

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                  badcompany99posted 16 years agoin reply to this

                  Cheers, that's me distracted in work for the rest of the day

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               The Craziest Hubposted 16 years agoin reply to this

               Thanks, Blonde let me borrow them!

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   frogdroppingposted 16 years ago

   Because they can. Like me. I have ohhhhh at least 9. Or is it 12. Can't remember. How many do I have BC? I'm losing the ability to keep up with me

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      Candie Vposted 16 years agoin reply to this

      Kevin is keeping track so you don't have to worry!!

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         frogdroppingposted 16 years agoin reply to this

         The only thing he keeps track of is his gold ...

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      badcompany99posted 16 years agoin reply to this

      I dunno I give birth daily

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         The Craziest Hubposted 16 years agoin reply to this

         So I hear...kinda sexy, doncha think?

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      DarwinsLaureateposted 16 years agoin reply to this

      I now have three, despite rumors otherwise.
      
      Mostly it's because I fancy myself some deranged artist and each account helps me secure a clear tone with the audience.
      
      And add more life to characters.

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         CabinGirlposted 16 years agoin reply to this

         Damn I only have 2, I might introduce my twin sister who is getting released next week and needs a few extra dollars

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   anime_nanetposted 16 years ago

   Different niches.
   
   I wouldn't write about anything but anime related with this profile, for instance.

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   CabinGirlposted 16 years ago

   Oh Dear, that BC he's such a Dear Sweet Captain but that's ok coming from me. Guys calling him Dear kinda makes him keep his ass hidden unlike me

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   Cris Aposted 16 years ago

   My alter ego makes the money hubs while I write the pretentiously artsy fartsy sort! LOL

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      CabinGirlposted 16 years agoin reply to this

      My Hero, even though I hate pretentious people whose true personalties show even through an alter ego

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      badcompany99posted 16 years agoin reply to this

      What a Guy !

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         Cris Aposted 16 years agoin reply to this

         Why thank you, capt'n!

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   frogdroppingposted 16 years ago

   Cris can't fault you. I'm going to make a second account and write about topics that's gonna allow me to give up my day job, mop up some greenbacks, drink twice as much coffee, smoke twice as many Malboro and keep me in gorgeous flip flops. Maybe ... or maybe I'll just end up with a load of roll ups and instant coffee
   
   frogmopping

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      Cris Aposted 16 years agoin reply to this

      I must say it's going to be the wisest decision you will be making as far as your hopping life on HP is concerned. But make sure to let me in on the secret identity so I could leave a snarky comment or two!

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   sixtyorsoposted 16 years ago

   This post ranks alongside the "who are freemasons here" post
   Basically don't mess with clicks.

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   frankiectlusposted 16 years ago

   So what happens if my wife wanted to start a hubpage as well.  Even though it is someone else, it could cause us problems?

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      badcompany99posted 16 years agoin reply to this

      How ???

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         frankiectlusposted 16 years agoin reply to this

         That was my question....If we both have one do we run into issues with Google?

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         sixtyorsoposted 16 years agoin reply to this

         If they both used the same computer, the ip address would the same and google will get ya! for clicking on ads in each others hubs. So dont try!

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    Uninvited Writerposted 16 years ago

    I want to create another hub account so I can make a pest of myself on the forums...

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       badcompany99posted 16 years agoin reply to this

       Oh so not fair, I am not that bad, go on smile

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    Uninvited Writerposted 16 years ago

    That wasn't aimed at anyone in particular...really

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       CabinGirlposted 16 years agoin reply to this

       Fibber

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       badcompany99posted 16 years agoin reply to this

       Ignore that wench, we love ya x

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    Ivorwenposted 16 years ago

    Professional -vs- Fun

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    darksideposted 16 years ago

    Click fraud is bad mmkay.
    
    anujagarwal, don't tell your fellow office workers about your hubs and sites. That way, you'll never have to worry about being banned because someone clicks on your ads from the same IP address.
    
    Too easy yeah?

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       CabinGirlposted 16 years agoin reply to this

       You really think intellect like that works in an office, more likely a damn call centre !

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       anujagarwalposted 16 years agoin reply to this

       Well I think this is better, not to tell colleagues about new hubs to avoid fraud clicks and banning of account.

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    k@riposted 16 years ago

    badcompany and cabingirl, I 'm so happy to find you both here!  Seems you have a wonderful party going!  Nothing less than I would expect from you two!

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    flread45posted 16 years ago

    Duh if google couldn't track you I would be in the Bahamas,eating caviar at the beach.CLICK,CLICK,MAKE ME RICH!!

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    Eaglekiwiposted 16 years ago

    Ok I want one too
    Help me with a new nickname guys maybe
    Secret Squirrel>>

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       Cris Aposted 16 years agoin reply to this

       Hmmm Agent Squirrel? Or Agent Super Squirrel (A.S.S. for short! LOL)

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          Eaglekiwiposted 16 years agoin reply to this

          i luv it

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             Cris Aposted 16 years agoin reply to this

             Cool! I will look forward to seeing "her" around

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                Eaglekiwiposted 16 years agoin reply to this

                awww I will get teased and called an ASS 

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          DarwinsLaureateposted 16 years agoin reply to this

          We must find not just squirrel, but also moose.

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    DarwinsLaureateposted 16 years ago

    Your IP address changes at least once every 24 hours in general cases, more often if you're moving from one wifi spot to the next.
    
    The only real "unique" ID to a computer is it's MAC address, a serial stamped and embedded on every device that connects to a network.

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       Silver Roseposted 16 years agoin reply to this

       Not everyone is on wifi though. People with dial-up access with have a static IP address, and people on broadband will have a small range. Most orgs will have a small range.
       
       The planet is massive, with billions online. The idea that coincidently someone is clicking on your ads and has the same IP address as you is, well, fantastic.
       
       Plus your IP address will show which city you are logged in from. Even if you are geo-targetting your hubs, the odds that all your clicks would naturally only come from a small city are infinitesmal. Say you are geo-targetting the UK - what are the odds that all the clicks to your hub will come from say Norwich city, while the people in larger cities ignore your site? It wouldn't happen naturally, that's for sure.
       
       Don't click your own ads. It's too risky. All those thinking they are smart enough to deceive Google are deluding themselves.

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    HealthCare Basicsposted 16 years ago

    I have a hard enough time keeping track of one profile with hubs.... I do like the idea of having different accounts to explore various avenues in writing.

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    DarwinsLaureateposted 16 years ago

    Dialup is not static, you generally get a new one everytime you dial up.
    
    Nearly every ISP refreshes your address every 24/48 hours.
    
    If you've a home network, the only device in your house that has an IP address actively on the internet is your router.
    
    The router than gives everything connected to it an IP address (this is called subnetting) and acts as a go-between from the internet to you and vice versa.
    
    My point is that while yes, it may be possible for Google to investiage click fraud, there's also a lot of valid reasons why a number of people would visit the same website from the same IP.
    
    [Edit for clarification]
    
    Keep in mind static IPs are rare and generally only owned by ISPs and the likes. Your ISP can issue you a static IP from their end, for sure. But its not an "offical" static IP as registered with ICANN and what not. Again, its just subnetting.
    
    The only permanent address all network cards have is their MAC address. Cellphones also have ESNs, other devices similar things.
    
    Each packet of information you send and receive has your MAC address and this is used by routers to know where to send your requests for stuff on the internet back to you.
    
    There, now my networking certification wasn't entirely a waste.

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       Eric Graudinsposted 16 years agoin reply to this

       If you are on a broadband connection, you could have the same IP address for days, weeks, months. Depends on how often you reboot the router.
       
       And getting back on topic:
       The elephant in the room which nobody is talking about is that some hubbers have multiple accounts to confuse and harass people, and generally try to cause mayhem on the forums.

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    Janettaposted 16 years ago

    There are certainly little troublemakers running around using multiple personalities, but, there are also those who use other accounts as a way to get out other forms of writing or for things they don't feel they can express under an account everyone "knows"

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