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Why some hubbers have multiple accounts on HubPages?

  1. anujagarwal profile image67
    anujagarwalposted 8 years ago

    It seems some of the persons here have multiple accounts with different names. What is the motto behind this?

    1. AEvans profile image66
      AEvansposted 8 years ago in reply to this

      Because they can.smile

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        badcompany99posted 8 years ago in reply to this

        So summed up in 3 words, what a woman !

        1. AEvans profile image66
          AEvansposted 8 years ago in reply to this

          I thought you would like that!!big_smile

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            badcompany99posted 8 years ago in reply to this

            AE in the words of Carly Simon " Nobody Does It Better "

            Hope you are well my friend, you were in my thoughts yesterday.

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    wordscribe41posted 8 years ago

    Different profiles assist people with multiple niches.

    1. anujagarwal profile image67
      anujagarwalposted 8 years ago in reply to this

      Good reason if this is the case. Or does it also help in clicking the ads from other profile.

      1. webismine profile image60
        webismineposted 8 years ago in reply to this

        Clicking on one's own ads is not advisable, google can trace them with IP address.

        1. anujagarwal profile image67
          anujagarwalposted 8 years ago in reply to this

          Means if a single IP is shared among multiple users like in case of big organizations, and someone logged-in on HP. Clicks from other users will be treated as invalid clicks even though they are valid.

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        badcompany99posted 8 years ago in reply to this

        Duhhh that would be really smart wouldn't it, different niches or topics I would think. Like what fool clicks their own adsense ads with the same ip address, you been online long ?

        1. anujagarwal profile image67
          anujagarwalposted 8 years ago in reply to this

          Is it one valid click per IP? OR No Valid Clicks if once logged-in by that IP.

          1. frogdropping profile image85
            frogdroppingposted 8 years ago in reply to this

            Don't be so interested in clicking those little suckers. The only thing thats gonna get you is banned. Seriously. There's no way around false clicking.

            1. Silver Rose profile image76
              Silver Roseposted 8 years ago in reply to this

              I second this. Adsense will have logged your IP address when you set up your account, and they probably log it everytime you sign in.

              Now there are 6 billion people on the planet - what are the odds that someone with the same IP address as yours ends up clicking your ads? Infinitesmal. Therefore if they see this pattern, they will immediately assume click fraud.

              The only decent clicks to get are those that come from complete strangers via the search engines, preferably from a city, state or continent miles away from yours!

              1. sixtyorso profile image70
                sixtyorsoposted 8 years ago in reply to this

                International Ip adresses are totally unique, there are no duplicates. This is why the Ip addressing standard changed recently in order to accomodate additional Ip numbers!

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            badcompany99posted 8 years ago in reply to this

            Ok I am typing this from work ok, I also type from home and have posted a hub from a friends house. Google Adsense will know all 3 ips link back to that person, and if you even attempt to click you risk the chance of losing your account.

            Trust me my friend Google are no fools, as to your question I myself have an alter-ego but only for the purpose of a different niche. Hope that helps !

            1. anujagarwal profile image67
              anujagarwalposted 8 years ago in reply to this

              If you are posting from office, and any colleague from your office clicks on any ad. So it does not mean you are trying to fool Google. But if your account gets blocked, and you never clicked on any ad, who is at fault dear.

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                badcompany99posted 8 years ago in reply to this

                Only call me Dear at the weekends ok, or perhaps meet me some day and call me Dear to my face and see what happens, yeah ?

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                  wordscribe41posted 8 years ago in reply to this

                  LMAO!  lol

                2. rastrother profile image57
                  rastrotherposted 8 years ago in reply to this

                  man you should know not to mess with bc, havent you ever heard of the multiple personality thing? tongue

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                  CabinGirlposted 8 years ago in reply to this

                  Lol I think he thinks your cute Captain, remember that guy in Soho who called you Dear, what a pain in the ass he was smile

                4. anujagarwal profile image67
                  anujagarwalposted 8 years ago in reply to this

                  just few hours and weekend is there to knock smile

              2. dingdong profile image61
                dingdongposted 8 years ago in reply to this

                Not just the clicks, I hope google has more things to study before accusing someone for invalid clicks(or click fraud).

                1. anujagarwal profile image67
                  anujagarwalposted 8 years ago in reply to this

                  I hope so, otherwise there will loads of blocked accounts on a daily basis.

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                    CabinGirlposted 8 years ago in reply to this

                    Omg that sounds awful, all those accounts closing daily, it's shocking to think of !

      3. guidebaba profile image52
        guidebabaposted 8 years ago in reply to this

        You can try this even with 1000s of different IDs. Your account will get banned within 15 days. I Bet. Google has different formulas to check fraud clicks. If making money with adsense was that easy, I would have become a millionaire by now.

      4. Jeniferr profile image81
        Jeniferrposted 8 years ago in reply to this

        Anujagarwal,

        Why would you need a second or third HubPages account to click the ads on your other hubs?  Ads are shown regardless if the person is a member of HubPages or not. 

        If a person wanted to try and cheat the system, they wouldn't need to log into another account to do so.  I think you're making a big deal out of nothing.

        1. anujagarwal profile image67
          anujagarwalposted 8 years ago in reply to this

          Jeniferr, I do not want to click on my ads, I was just curious to know why some persons use multiple accounts. And from the discussion so far, it is understood that multiple accounts being used to cover different niches...

          1. Jeniferr profile image81
            Jeniferrposted 8 years ago in reply to this

            Anugagarwal,

            It was a hypothetical question, used to dispel the notion that people create secondary accounts for such activity.

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      badcompany99posted 8 years ago in reply to this

      Smart thinking Batman smile

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        wordscribe41posted 8 years ago in reply to this

        Why, thank you, Robin.

        1. profile image49
          badcompany99posted 8 years ago in reply to this

          Nice tights smile

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            wordscribe41posted 8 years ago in reply to this

            You should see me without the tights, mate.  big_smile

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              badcompany99posted 8 years ago in reply to this

              Cheers, that's me distracted in work for the rest of the day smile

          2. The Craziest Hub profile image55
            The Craziest Hubposted 8 years ago in reply to this

            Thanks, Blonde let me borrow them! smile

  3. frogdropping profile image85
    frogdroppingposted 8 years ago

    Because they can. Like me. I have ohhhhh at least 9. Or is it 12. Can't remember. How many do I have BC? I'm losing the ability to keep up with me neutral

    1. Candie V profile image62
      Candie Vposted 8 years ago in reply to this

      Kevin is keeping track so you don't have to worry!!

      1. frogdropping profile image85
        frogdroppingposted 8 years ago in reply to this

        The only thing he keeps track of is his gold ...

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      badcompany99posted 8 years ago in reply to this

      I dunno I give birth daily smile

      1. The Craziest Hub profile image55
        The Craziest Hubposted 8 years ago in reply to this

        So I hear...kinda sexy, doncha think? wink

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      DarwinsLaureateposted 8 years ago in reply to this

      I now have three, despite rumors otherwise.

      Mostly it's because I fancy myself some deranged artist and each account helps me secure a clear tone with the audience.

      And add more life to characters.

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        CabinGirlposted 8 years ago in reply to this

        Damn I only have 2, I might introduce my twin sister who is getting released next week and needs a few extra dollars smile

  4. anime_nanet profile image60
    anime_nanetposted 8 years ago

    Different niches.

    I wouldn't write about anything but anime related with this profile, for instance.

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    CabinGirlposted 8 years ago

    Oh Dear, that BC he's such a Dear Sweet Captain but that's ok coming from me. Guys calling him Dear kinda makes him keep his ass hidden unlike me smile

  6. Cris A profile image60
    Cris Aposted 8 years ago

    My alter ego makes the money hubs while I write the pretentiously artsy fartsy sort! LOL cool

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      CabinGirlposted 8 years ago in reply to this

      My Hero, even though I hate pretentious people whose true personalties show even through an alter ego smile

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      badcompany99posted 8 years ago in reply to this

      What a Guy !

      1. Cris A profile image60
        Cris Aposted 8 years ago in reply to this

        Why thank you, capt'n! cool

  7. frogdropping profile image85
    frogdroppingposted 8 years ago

    Cris can't fault you. I'm going to make a second account and write about topics that's gonna allow me to give up my day job, mop up some greenbacks, drink twice as much coffee, smoke twice as many Malboro and keep me in gorgeous flip flops. Maybe ... or maybe I'll just end up with a load of roll ups and instant coffee smile

    frogmopping

    1. Cris A profile image60
      Cris Aposted 8 years ago in reply to this

      I must say it's going to be the wisest decision you will be making as far as your hopping life on HP is concerned. But make sure to let me in on the secret identity so I could leave a snarky comment or two! cool

  8. sixtyorso profile image70
    sixtyorsoposted 8 years ago

    This post ranks alongside the "who are freemasons here" post
    Basically don't mess with clicks.

  9. frankiectlus profile image59
    frankiectlusposted 8 years ago

    So what happens if my wife wanted to start a hubpage as well.  Even though it is someone else, it could cause us problems?

    1. profile image49
      badcompany99posted 8 years ago in reply to this

      How ???

      1. frankiectlus profile image59
        frankiectlusposted 8 years ago in reply to this

        That was my question....If we both have one do we run into issues with Google?

      2. sixtyorso profile image70
        sixtyorsoposted 8 years ago in reply to this

        If they both used the same computer, the ip address would the same and google will get ya! for clicking on ads in each others hubs. So dont try!

  10. Uninvited Writer profile image82
    Uninvited Writerposted 8 years ago

    I want to create another hub account so I can make a pest of myself on the forums...

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      badcompany99posted 8 years ago in reply to this

      Oh so not fair, I am not that bad, go on smile smile

  11. Uninvited Writer profile image82
    Uninvited Writerposted 8 years ago

    That wasn't aimed at anyone in particular...really big_smile

    1. profile image48
      CabinGirlposted 8 years ago in reply to this

      Fibber smile

    2. profile image49
      badcompany99posted 8 years ago in reply to this

      Ignore that wench, we love ya x

  12. Ivorwen profile image78
    Ivorwenposted 8 years ago

    Professional -vs- Fun

  13. darkside profile image80
    darksideposted 8 years ago

    Click fraud is bad mmkay.

    anujagarwal, don't tell your fellow office workers about your hubs and sites. That way, you'll never have to worry about being banned because someone clicks on your ads from the same IP address.

    Too easy yeah?

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      CabinGirlposted 8 years ago in reply to this

      You really think intellect like that works in an office, more likely a damn call centre !

    2. anujagarwal profile image67
      anujagarwalposted 8 years ago in reply to this

      Well I think this is better, not to tell colleagues about new hubs to avoid fraud clicks and banning of account.

  14. k@ri profile image81
    k@riposted 8 years ago

    badcompany and cabingirl, I 'm so happy to find you both here!  Seems you have a wonderful party going!  Nothing less than I would expect from you two!

  15. flread45 profile image80
    flread45posted 8 years ago

    Duh if google couldn't track you I would be in the Bahamas,eating caviar at the beach.CLICK,CLICK,MAKE ME RICH!!

  16. Eaglekiwi profile image71
    Eaglekiwiposted 8 years ago

    Ok I want one too
    Help me with a new nickname guys smile maybe
    Secret Squirrel>>http://www.google.com/images?q=tbn:piBREpnkjOvjPM::3.bp.blogspot.com/_DXqwAeak1GA/R45XxbMtb_I/AAAAAAAAAn4/0rwAiikIJK4/s320/Secret_Squirrel.gif

    1. Cris A profile image60
      Cris Aposted 8 years ago in reply to this

      Hmmm Agent Squirrel? Or Agent Super Squirrel (A.S.S. for short! LOL) cool

      1. Eaglekiwi profile image71
        Eaglekiwiposted 8 years ago in reply to this

        lol i luv it

        1. Cris A profile image60
          Cris Aposted 8 years ago in reply to this

          Cool! I will look forward to seeing "her" around cool

          1. Eaglekiwi profile image71
            Eaglekiwiposted 8 years ago in reply to this

            awww I will get teased and called an ASS  sad

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        DarwinsLaureateposted 8 years ago in reply to this

        We must find not just squirrel, but also moose.

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    DarwinsLaureateposted 8 years ago

    Your IP address changes at least once every 24 hours in general cases, more often if you're moving from one wifi spot to the next.

    The only real "unique" ID to a computer is it's MAC address, a serial stamped and embedded on every device that connects to a network.

    1. Silver Rose profile image76
      Silver Roseposted 8 years ago in reply to this

      Not everyone is on wifi though. People with dial-up access with have a static IP address, and people on broadband will have a small range. Most orgs will have a small range.

      The planet is massive, with billions online. The idea that coincidently someone is clicking on your ads and has the same IP address as you is, well, fantastic.

      Plus your IP address will show which city you are logged in from. Even if you are geo-targetting your hubs, the odds that all your clicks would naturally only come from a small city are infinitesmal. Say you are geo-targetting the UK - what are the odds that all the clicks to your hub will come from say Norwich city, while the people in larger cities ignore your site? It wouldn't happen naturally, that's for sure.

      Don't click your own ads. It's too risky. All those thinking they are smart enough to deceive Google are deluding themselves.

  18. HealthCare Basics profile image62
    HealthCare Basicsposted 8 years ago

    I have a hard enough time keeping track of one profile with hubs.... I do like the idea of having different accounts to explore various avenues in writing.

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    DarwinsLaureateposted 8 years ago

    Dialup is not static, you generally get a new one everytime you dial up.

    Nearly every ISP refreshes your address every 24/48 hours.

    If you've a home network, the only device in your house that has an IP address actively on the internet is your router.

    The router than gives everything connected to it an IP address (this is called subnetting) and acts as a go-between from the internet to you and vice versa.

    My point is that while yes, it may be possible for Google to investiage click fraud, there's also a lot of valid reasons why a number of people would visit the same website from the same IP.

    [Edit for clarification]

    Keep in mind static IPs are rare and generally only owned by ISPs and the likes. Your ISP can issue you a static IP from their end, for sure. But its not an "offical" static IP as registered with ICANN and what not. Again, its just subnetting.

    The only permanent address all network cards have is their MAC address. Cellphones also have ESNs, other devices similar things.

    Each packet of information you send and receive has your MAC address and this is used by routers to know where to send your requests for stuff on the internet back to you.

    There, now my networking certification wasn't entirely a waste. wink

    1. Eric Graudins profile image61
      Eric Graudinsposted 8 years ago in reply to this

      If you are on a broadband connection, you could have the same IP address for days, weeks, months. Depends on how often you reboot the router.

      And getting back on topic:
      The elephant in the room which nobody is talking about is that some hubbers have multiple accounts to confuse and harass people, and generally try to cause mayhem on the forums.

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    Janettaposted 8 years ago

    There are certainly little troublemakers running around using multiple personalities, but, there are also those who use other accounts as a way to get out other forms of writing or for things they don't feel they can express under an account everyone "knows"

 
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