Every Man Wants An Independent Woman?

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   fierycjposted 13 years ago

   Cant speak for every man, but for me - HELL YEAH!

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      fierycjposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Even the musicians, who are supposed to be really loaded as hell, are singing about how much they want an independent woman. Gawd, it makes you just wonder. Its like a friggin' epidemic for pete's sake!

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      MissJamieDposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      I myself, in the past, was rather clingy and a "follower". Now I am the total opposite and can totally see why a "follower" is not as attractive.

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      Lady_Eposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Lol.  Are you sure you can handle an independent woman Oh Fiery Stud?   

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   LondonGirlposted 13 years ago

   makes sense - clinginess sucks.

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   pgrundyposted 13 years ago

   Men don't know what they want. You just have to live your life and they'll  hang around or they won't. You can't focus on 'what men want'. Who cares what they want? Do whet you want.

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      lrohnerposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      So true, PG. Besides, most men who claim they want an independent woman have no idea how to handle it once they are involved with one!

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         anjalichughposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Exactly!!!!!!!

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      RooBeeposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Very important point!! Words to live by. A) Men differ from each other and while one wants a passive lil wifey, others appreciate a woman with her own goals and who takes the helm when she wants. B) If you're acting like something you're not, eventually you'll both be unhappy with hurt feelings and all the junk that goes with it.

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      Lisa HWposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      LOL.  I'm a big fan of the "who cares what they want" line of thinking.     Some like independence when it suits them but not when it doesn't.

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      MindFieldposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Spoken like a true independent woman, Pam! And I couldn't agree with you more. But don't you find it takes more than a few years under our belts to figure that out? ;-)

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   L. Andrew Marrposted 13 years ago

   I was an independant woman once...didn't suit me so well...
   
   =]

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      Davinagirl3posted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Nah! I don't buy it!  I like your picture.  You should stick with this one.

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         L. Andrew Marrposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Haha, cheers
         
         I figured my last one made me seem too serious and moody when I am only partially serious and moody =P
         
         This one makes me seem a bit like a simpleton but I like it =]

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   kmackey32posted 13 years ago

   I have chased many away by being to independent. They try to change me and it would make me flip the fuck out.

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   Eaglekiwiposted 13 years ago

   Men dont know what they want
   
   Martha in the kitchen
   School girl /latest hollywood sex kitten - in the bedroom
   Ms Efficent to answer the phone,smooth his worried brow
   Doctor to fix the kids (though not the same one in his fantasies)
   
   
   
   oh almost forgot and a 'soulmate' which could double as anyone of the above too

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      L. Andrew Marrposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      I feel like this is a tad unfair. Not all men are like this. Plus is it not true that everyone wants the perfect person for them?
      
      Yes men demand alot but I ask women this question:
      If you could have a superman then wouldn't you?

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         kmackey32posted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Yea Id like a superman..

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            L. Andrew Marrposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            I rest my case. Also I know it was probably in jest, however, online it is impossible to tell tone of voice (sarcasm etc) so I thought I would play it safe =]

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            logic,commonsenseposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            But what would you settle for?

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         Eaglekiwiposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Awww my answer was in jest
         
         Nothing personal

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   James S. Thorntonposted 13 years ago

   I'd like a woman that DOESN'T force me to have sex with her without a condom, threatening to call the police telling them I abused her.
   
   Afterwards, I would appreciate it if she DIDN'T demand I go take an STD test so SHE can be sure she didn't get anything from ME.
   
   Unfortunately, I had no such luck last week.
   
   I hate it when girls kill off something that could have been beautiful.

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      kmackey32posted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Oh my thats aweful that a woman would do that!

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   fierycjposted 13 years ago

   Tell me this ladies, just tell me, dont be pissed or anything either, just chill. Hey, why is it that women always assume that men dont know what they want? Or men cant handle an independent woman? Hey, maybe, just maybe, I'm assuming anything, just saying - maybe you've not met a real man, who can handle an independent woman, like say, i dont know - moi.

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      Davinagirl3posted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Men, from where I am from, are raised to believe that his woman is supposed to take care of him.  Not all men, but a large majority.  It is hard for women with strong minds to find strong men.  Some strong women like to be with men who are weaker than themselves, and vice versa with strong men.  I needed a no nonsense guy who could live with a highly opinionated woman.  I say what I feel and that is that.  I was lucky enough to find a husband who appreciates and reciprocates.

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         James S. Thorntonposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Women like it when men do tiny little chores for them because women regard this as an act of love.
         
         Men are not so different.
         
         We really appreciate it a whole lot if you make us a cup of coffee or make our beds for us.
         
         (a man's love goes through his stomach)
         
         I've had many women who enjoyed having ME do chores for THEM, but not the other way around.
         
         Because that would've been sexist.
         
         I recommend this book to everybody who has trouble dealing with the opposite sex:
         
         http://www.amazon.com/Dont-Listen-Women … 0767907639

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            Vee Roseposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            I would like to think that every man is looking for an independent woman, but the truth of the matter is, there are men threatened by women like that.

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   L. Andrew Marrposted 13 years ago

   Hubpages: That all new dating/battle of the sexes site
   
   Haha

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    blondepoetposted 13 years ago

    Where am I taking you for our first date??

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    Eaglekiwiposted 13 years ago

    Well forgive me ladies for gettin all philosophical but these guys are raised by women (majority) so perhaps the hand that rocks the cradle ,needs to tip them out a lil sooner...gently but oh so definately.
    
    And to quote my husband "Damn women are never happy, you want it both ways , independant and be the weaker sex" and he blames womens lib ..confused the hell outta guys and young women, now instead of burning bra's , they got push bras..its them who dont know what they want anymore...
    
    
    Then my son remembered something he'd seen in the locker room at school "Girls think they can do anything, but they still cant pee over a 6ft fence!
    
    Oh I love when the guys band together , kinda sweet to see bonding ...fragile darlings really underneath all that gruff n stuff
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    And dont feel dejected guys , I have 5 wonderful brothers , three sons ,two step sons and one hot blooded American husband.
    Their bark is worse than their bite.
    
    And it was a man who invented the GPS system , lol

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       L. Andrew Marrposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       Cheers for that haha
       
       I must admit it does confuse me when women want equality but still expect the guy to pay for the dinner out etc. I don't get why girls slag themselves up and lead guys on yet complain that guys are perverts. It's like they they dig our graves for us and then kick us in. We cannot win any situation.
       
       I personally go to an all boys school and we are in constant competition with the all girls school down the road. Every time we genuinely beat them at something they always say it was a sexist result. Yet every time they beat us it's apparently fine and dandy. Apparently that just makes us stupid/unfit. Pah! Just because they're female they think they have the right to mess us guys around aswell...don't even get me started on relationships between the schools.
       
       Luckily we've beaten them hands down over the past couple of years due to them having a huge skiving issue within the school. We work our asses off and it still gets called sexism when we beat them. There is a difference between knuckling down to work and discrimination.
       
       Ok, rant over.
       =]
       
       On a lighter note, one of my teachers at school once sat myself and a couple of mates down and said "Right boys, by the time you are 25 you will know everything there is to know about women...unfortunately I was married at 23"
       
       =P

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          Eaglekiwiposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          aww all is fair in love and war ,dont mean to be trite , but those were my thoughts re rivalry tween the sexes.
          
          I attended a very elite all girls school !! but way before your time, as we were not even allowed to compete with the all boys school 4mins away ( if ya knew the shortcut) which we all did
          It has changed now though (thank god)...but the funny thing is even way back when ,you couldnt stop nature or a teenagers natural  curiousity and did I mention hormones and well ....you know the rest ...
          Oh shoot I was distracted here and thought I was in the 'flirting' thread
          Not much difference ,on reflection, lol.
          Just to your post though , yea its funny I do think girls want or expect alot (sometimes) to be treated like a princess, but not actually have to behave like one ..hmmm
          
          My advice is to treat anyone ,the way youd like to be treated ,cant go too far wrong there.
          Plus no-one can please all the people ,so you might as well please yourself

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    Dame Scribeposted 13 years ago

    Well, Maslows hierarchy of needs says .... lol ...I think it all depends where on the *maturity* scale one is at to know what one wants. I can say I went from dependent to independent n most guys I know (married) are ok with strong women (their own wives) whilst others...well...do all to degrade, ridicule n humiliate her....

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    Beth100posted 13 years ago

    Independence is important to have in any relationship.  It defines and maintains who you are.  If both are confident, then both will want independence.  If one or both have low self esteem issues, then one will not want independence and the other will want dependence.  There are whole books written on this co-dependency cycle.  So, it depends on the confidence of the man and the woman.

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    logic,commonsenseposted 13 years ago

    Depends on the definition of independence.  In a relationship, each person should be able to expect that the other will depend on them for something.  If there are no expectations how will  you know if the other is reliable?

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    logic,commonsenseposted 13 years ago

    Depends on the definition of independence.  In a relationship, each person should be able to expect that the other will depend on them for something.  If there are no expectations how will  you know if the other is reliable?

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    mz_247_njinfoposted 13 years ago

    Men say they want an independent woman but as soon as she disagrees with a view or something he did, there's a problem. Many times, they leave the independent woman because they feel she is harder to please than a needy woman. -- Just my experience. "The squeeky wheel gets the oil"

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    Colebabieposted 13 years ago

    I think it is all about balance. No man wants a woman who is too much or too little of one trait or another. Same for what a woman wants

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    Ghost32posted 13 years ago

    I like 'em totally dependent and needy as hell.  Which may have a lot to say about why it took me 7 tries to get the right match.

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    Anathposted 13 years ago

    I like to be dependent and helpless so I can be taken care off.  But I also like to be independent and in control.  It is a matter of mood and game playing.  Sometimes appearing helpless is just as form of controlling the other person in doing what you want when you want...

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    wesleycoxposted 13 years ago

    There is a lot of funny comments in here, very good opinions and some basic facts.  Having a superman or superwoman in your life would be great but we must remember that relationships are designed to be a part of another persons life.  An independent woman (as the original question is) is very attractive to men.  We generally like a woman to be opinionated and able to take care of herself.  However, we also like it when a woman needs a man for other things than sex.  I of course cannot speak for all men but I think this is the general concensus.

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    Greek Oneposted 13 years ago

    Everyone wants to be needed, wanted and valued to some extent....
    
    but only weak men want a totally submissive helpless women that they can control and thus feel superior to

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    Miss Takeposted 13 years ago

    I am very independent but I DONT want a man thanks very much they snore .....

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       fierycjposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       Guess that means you're gay.

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          Eaglekiwiposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          assumptions are risky

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       Eaglekiwiposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       now ya tell me

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    \Brenda Scullyposted 13 years ago

    Who is calling who gay around here now let us get this straight

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       fierycjposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       so Miss Take is Brenda's alter ego in here, ah hah.

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    Miss Takeposted 13 years ago

    ER YOU CALLING ME GAY.....

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    Miss Takeposted 13 years ago

    HEY YOU ALWAYS GETTING ANGRY ON HERE...
    
    Brenda has nothing at all to do with me at all don't think just because you insult me that using her name will help you out..
    
    Are you gay eh are you.... well don't call me gay then

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       fierycjposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       You're so gay. Where's your avatar? Pick one, anything! And how come you know so much about me? Is that you Brenda. Show yourself.

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    Eaglekiwiposted 13 years ago

    CJ's is in trouble..ooooooo

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       fierycjposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       How?

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          Eaglekiwiposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          just teasin, chill

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             fierycjposted 13 years agoin reply to this

             Always on fire, Baby.

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    \Brenda Scullyposted 13 years ago

    hey man i would not know how to be an alter ego.... how do you do it????? have reported problem, it must be a technical hitch......

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       fierycjposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       What tech hitch, where did you report...Brenda, admit it, you were caught. I even followed the two screennames just to make sure. You never post at the same time. And you both even talk alike. I'm sure of it.

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