A hub that simply links to a bunch of other writer's hubs

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   Et al...posted 14 years ago

   I looked at a featured hubber's hubs lastnight and noticed she had several hubs that were just a bunch of pictures. Then she also had hubs that were basically a Table of Contents linking to a bunch of other hubs on one general topic. She headed it up with a brief brief paragraph. Something seems wrong with this to me. Is this ok to do? Are bunches of people making money from doing this? Your input is appreciated. Thanks.

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      bluetiger1520posted 14 years agoin reply to this

      nice hub

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   Janettaposted 14 years ago

   Heck no it's not ok!! LOL
   If the entire hub is full of only pics, no text like many of the "indian actresses" hubs then I say flag it for being substandard or adult or whatever since the hubstaff has said they need these hubs to be flagged in order to find them
   
   I also noticed these hubs taking over the featured hubs section and I think that is crap

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      Eaglekiwiposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      I agree ,but didnt wanna say anything ,in case it looked like sour grapes.......just doesnt seem fair
      then saw mine up for the afternoon 

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         fierycjposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         I started a thread on that. I'm in the Entertainment Category, and I write hubs on the same. But everytime, all I see are hubs on naked Bollywood 'Aunties'!

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      beautyroseposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      I also noticed that but I think that hubber who keeps posting of an actress photo is a woman. I think you knew her too.

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      Jezzzzposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      I don't think these types of hubs are ok. I think they are a waste of time.  I myself have flagged them before but nothing happened to them.

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   Uninvited Writerposted 14 years ago

   I doubt that hub with the links makes any money...goes to show you that just being featured has nothing to do with quality.

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      Eaglekiwiposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Agreed UW........but the first time I saw me there ,I nearly danced round the room , remember that song by Dr Hook
      Rolling stone , gonna get my picture on the cover..la la la
      
      Yea well lasted 2hrs, then I woke up lol

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   Et al...posted 14 years ago

   I was hesistant to flag it since this person has tons and tons of hubs and was featured, I figured her actions were acceptable. Now that I know better. It seemed kind of lazy just linking to a bunch of other people's writings. Also, just a bunch of sexy pictures of girls seems like cheating to me. I put thought and time into my hubs and if people are making money doing these other types of hubs, it kind of bothers me.

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      Janettaposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      It is cheating imo  and it bothers most of us. It's aggravating and itrritating. If you think a hub like that is a poor example of a hub (ie no text/only pics/links etc) then I say flag the booger
      
      It's been said here in the forums, by members of the hubteam, that if these hubs aren't flagged, they don't know they are there.

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   Louidam1posted 14 years ago

   I was wondering about all those indian model hubs.  Aren't those just spam?

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   bigmikehposted 14 years ago

   I used to flag the worst offenders but nothing happened - I don't have time to keep flagging them. Even those with comments like
   
   I want to f*** you like a dog
   
   and S*** my big c*** are still there.
   
   Ultimately they will drag HubPages down in Google's opinion and that will effect us all.

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      SweetiePieposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Several inappropriate comments on a few hubs are probably not going to try HP down in Google's opinions.  There are far more graphic sites that come up high in search engine results.  Personally I just ignore the hubs that are not that interesting.

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   Marisa Wrightposted 14 years ago

   From what I understand, picture-only Hubs don't violate HubPages TOS, that's why they're still there.
   
   I don't see anything wrong with a Hub that is only photos, provided the photos are good - and I suppose that's why they're allowed, because where do you draw the line? 
   
   A Hub that's simply links to other Hubs is also allowed.  It probably won't do the writer any good but the Hubbers she's linking to should be thankful.

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   bgpappaposted 14 years ago

   I agree, hubs with just pictures and no text, or just links should be flagged.  But they are all over the place.
   
   Hubpages should not feautre these as there is no original content or thought.

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   Jane@CMposted 14 years ago

   There is one hubber in the top with over 2,000 hubs, 2000 fans and LOTS of pictures...so I would guess there is a lot of time into this?  With that many fans, I doubt HP will take a second look there.

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    Janettaposted 14 years ago

    it really all comes back to the whole double standard. How are we not supposed to feel as if certain hubs/hubbers are having hubs banned unfairly, when hubs such as the ones in question are allowed to stay up.
    
    The hubTeam has said in the past that these hubs are only up because they had not been flagged and brought to their attention. But, reading what hubbers are saying on this thread, it sounds as if they actually are being flagged and yet nothing is being done still.
    
    I'm interested to know once and for all where the line is drawn. What is acceptable and what is not because, despite what the TOS may say, it seems to all fall on opinion of the one doing the banning.
    
    And, correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't substandard/poor quality hubs considered hubs with little or no text and full of only links/pictures. That's what it says in the help sect. under why a hub would be flagged

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       Marisa Wrightposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Bear in mind, when you use the word "unfair", that it's not Hubpages that sets the rules which TOS are based on.  It's Adsense. 
       
       The main purpose of this site is to write articles which earn money through Adsense.  If enough Hubbers break Adsense's rules, Google will slap HubPages or worse, ban us all - and then everyone loses.  We may think Adsense's rules are stupid, inconsistent or unreasonable but the point is, they pay the bills.
       
       If some Hubbers don't want to follow the rules, they can start their own blog or go to a site that doesn't use Adsense.

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          AEvansposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          I believe what she means is that the rules should apply to everyone not only a few. I see the point you are trying to address however I also see hers.

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             Janettaposted 14 years agoin reply to this

             Thanks AE
             
             That is what I meant precisely and I do understand the whole AdSense pays the bills. But my beef is that we were told basically to flag hubs like that although ut seems to do no good

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                AEvansposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                I know.

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                Marisa Wrightposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                I've been looking for where we were told to flag hubs like this, all I could find in the Help section is this definition of sub-standard:
                
                ""Test" or otherwise unfinished hubs
                Very little content
                Unoriginal or purely personal content
                Contributes nothing new in a heavily saturated topic
                Many broken links or links to low quality sites
                Links with deceptive or inaccurate link text
                Missing videos"
                
                You'll notice it says "very little content", not "very little text".
                
                I'm hoping Maddie will chime in to clarify, or maybe you've got a link to a relevant forum discussion where she did?

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                   AEvansposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                   Adult - Nudity, sexually explicit content or links to adult or pornography sites
                   Gambling - Promotes gambling or links to sites that promote or offer gambling for money
                   Spam - Solely promotes another site, especially when Hub links all point to one site
                   Low Quality - Empty, nearly empty or could not be useful or interesting to anyone
                   Miscategorized or Deceptively Tagged or Titled - Hub is in the wrong category, or contains misleading title or tags that don’t match the Hub’s content; includes irrelevant, and excessive tagging
                   Not Written In English - Primarily written in a language other than English
                   Duplicate - You believe the text content of this hub was copied from another source
                   Other - Violates the HubPages Terms of Use in a way other than those listed above
                   Copyright violation? If this Hub copies content owned by you without your permission, please follow these instructions for report
                   
                   I believe it could possibly fall under low quality or other
                   where you provide a brief explanation.

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                      Marisa Wrightposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                      AEvans, "low quality" and "sub standard" sound like the same thing.  The main criteria seems to be that it has to be empty or nearly empty.  Whether a Hub is useful or interesting to anyone is a matter of opinion - and photo Hubs get a lot of traffic, so clearly they ARE interesting to a lot of people.

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                SirDentposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                As Marissa pointed out, we are asked to flag only those hubs that go against the TOS. The photo hubs do not go against the TOS of HubPages unless they are pornographic. Everything was spelled out in what constitutes porn in the TOS. Flagging hubs simply because you do not like them only causes staff to have to look at hubs that are in compliance with the TOS. It wastes times that they need to do more important things.  If you come across a hub that you do not like, it only takes one click of your mouse to leave the page and go to another.

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    aniketgoreposted 14 years ago

    its just a trick to attract traffic

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    AEvansposted 14 years ago

    Someone linked one of my hubs to there Indian Sexy pics and now it goes to a porno site. It is not o.k.
    I will not mention the hubbers name however I am a little upset over it.

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       Ultimate Hubberposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       You can write to them and ask them to take your link off. Tried doing that?

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          AEvansposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          Yes and there was not a response so as of this morning I tried it again.

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    Cls1321posted 14 years ago

    I think people are forgetting the fact that we all have the power to deny or delete comments on our hubs. So it is the publishers fault is dirty comments are left in my opinion.
    
    unless I am mistaken.

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    Cls1321posted 14 years ago

    oh and theres websites for photos, I think hubpages should be more for articles. If people want to post thousands of photos they should consider flickr

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       AEvansposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       I also agree with you on that as well.

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          Uninvited Writerposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          I think flickr prefers it if you post photographs you actually have a right to...like pictures you have taken yourself. It has been argued that Indian pictures have no copyright and anyone can take them...I somehow doubt that. I almost always ignore these hubs. To me if you are going to have all pictures you should at least have a paragraph of text with each. But that is just me.
          
          This anti-picture-hub sentiment shows up in the forums from time to time. I only flag them if they have adult content (ie show nipples)

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             AEvansposted 14 years agoin reply to this

             If the show nipples I do the same thing.

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             Julie-Ann Amosposted 14 years agoin reply to this

             I have some models hubs and they work for me.  I certainly couldn't find a list of the top 10 english male PR female models out there so wrote one and it begged for good photos.
             
             But i do lingerie, pubic hair, models and not a nipple in sight (except on the men).  Just making sure people know you CAN do a decent photo based hub or one on strong topics without crossing the sanity line.

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       ZaneCoreshiposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       very right! infact if people start publishing photo hubs, the quality pf traffic will be people searching for Indian sexy actresses not the genuine text content and what i know of google that they cant read photos but only the title of the photo and text content. so in a longer run if more of the pic oriented hubs come around it will eventually decrease the quality score of HP in google eyes!
       dont't all of us agree on that?

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          Marisa Wrightposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          If that's the case, then the HP team will take steps to discourage them.  It's their business after all.  It's not our decision.

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    Et al...posted 14 years ago

    Wowy, I opened up a can of worms, eh? Well, I guess I pretty much have my answer now. LOL. Thanks, Et al...

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