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   Arthur Fontesposted 15 years ago

   From what I have noticed in my short time at Hubpages is this.  What is good for each individual hubber is good for all the community.  Anyone who drives traffic to hubpages gives the other hubbers a chance to feed from the flow of traffic.  Why when provided with a forum would we take the opportunity to bite and claw each other?  Every hubber that decides to not participate in the hubpage community diminishes the experience for us all.  Why would we not support each other for the benefit of all our hard work we have put into our hubs?

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      h.a.borcichposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      I have only been with hubpages a few months, but my initial perception of the forums purpose has greatly changed. I thought it was for community among hubbers. I thought the threads asking questions were to gather info for hub writing, but when I responded I learned it was not so. I have answered threads with my beliefs, not told anyone their beliefs were wrong, yet been ridiculed and harshly judged. I have dealt with harrassment and name calling for it. I have wanted to start threads to get others opinions, but I don't as I can see what would happen. I now believe the forums are a school yard overrun with big mouths and bullies for the most part. It is what it is, and I am suprised honestly by what hubpages tolerates. Just my opinion, Holly

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         Arthur Fontesposted 15 years agoin reply to this

         That is so sad that you have not started a thread because of fear of the responses you would receive.  Beyond sad it is repulsive to think that other people are defining your experience with the Hubpages site.  I understand now with your response why the staff would want to ban people who are trying to bully their way through the forums with strongarm tactics.

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         h.a.borcichposted 15 years agoin reply to this

         My response seemed a bit vague so I want to clarify.
           The questions I have wanted to ask are about growing up in different cultures and faiths. I am genuinely interested in others experiences. I don't want to judge it, or watch some hubbers fly in with attacks and mockery, but gain some insight.
           I have come to expect it is impossible for many to just give input or an observation without tearing someone down. Maybe I am wrong? Maybe I'll be brave and start a thread soon. Just don't think I am fearful of the forums...I simply am stunned and jaded a bit. Holly

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         moanalisaposted 15 years agoin reply to this

         Being here for two weeks, I agree with you in many ways. I see constantly those who do nothing but start threads for merely the sake of self-aggrandizement, and quite often on topics that they know are heatedly debated upon.
         
         Am I guilty of responding to such, yes...It's a huge turn-off to want to participate in the forums these days.

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            K Partinposted 15 years agoin reply to this

            Sorry you feel that way, but I can understand where you're coming from. But give it a chance you'll like it in the long run.

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      Karina S.posted 15 years agoin reply to this

      I agree with you.

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   kirstenblogposted 15 years ago

   It's mind boggling to me but I guess humans just like to bicker and fight even when there is no benifit to it

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   wesleyacarterposted 15 years ago

   war is easy. peace is hard work.

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      Cagsilposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      The question is - do you know why?

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         wesleyacarterposted 15 years agoin reply to this

         no i don't.
         
         I can speculate it is because of the need for drama as part of the human condition. many times, as you can see on these forums, it is easier to emit one's own ideas than it is to consider someone else's.
         
         peace is boring, and not as entertaining as war. Especially in the modern community, where self-actualization is an individual point, and not a collective undertaking.
         
         War yields huge profits. Peace spreads those profits to every party involved, which defeats the purpose of profit.

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            Arthur Fontesposted 15 years agoin reply to this

            "Peace sells but who's Buying"  Dave Mustaine

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   kirstenblogposted 15 years ago

   BTW my spelling is awful and sadly my mouse went kerplunk! I have an old one button mouse to use and so no right click fix spelling facility and doing it with a keyboard is beyond me

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      Cagsilposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      You are just having all kinds of problems lately, huh? How are you today? (like I couldn't already tell.... )

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         kirstenblogposted 15 years agoin reply to this

         My luck has been sub par eh? Guess I can't do any work, what a bummer
         I am actually thinking of going to the doctors again tomorrow about my foot, two toes have got weird purple sore areas that look nasty. I wonder if there is more damage in the foot then they found before. Of course when I went to the hospital they were more consirned to get me in and out in under their target times for hospital visits then making sure they know the extent of damage, what a crock of shite! Hey at least I have some kind of medical coverage as I don't make enough to pay the bills that would happen in areas with no public health care Can't win on that issue really, crappy health care for all or decent health care for those who can afford it. I should get more involved in the political forums eh!

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   The10DollarMarkposted 15 years ago

   Yes, every traffic we get can help another hubber so you'd think we should help each other.
   
   On the other hand...Many of us have similar hubs and thus are competing against each other. For examples I've seen a lot of Wow lvl 80 hubs. The goal of such hubs is to sell a product. If someone were to actually buy it, they'd only need 1. So if you're helping drive traffic to your competing hub, that's not good.
   
   So in a way, getting into fights with people so that they get annoyed and give up, is a good strategy for people who don't want too much competition.
   
   (Not that I would do that, just trying to find a way to make it work for the other side . Devil's advocate)

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      kirstenblogposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      Competition is a good and healthy way to improve. I have a product hub with a link to another members product hub with similar products advertised. I really think if I don't make the sale with my writing maybe they will want to buy after reading her hub and I have gleaned a few good methods to use to make a sale so it all works out in the end

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   Bill Manningposted 15 years ago

   I've said it before and I'll say it again. I am a long time forum user, belong to over a dozen of them. They are from many different places, many different subjects.
   
   Never have I seen so many people fighting and baiting each other than I have here, and I'm new here! Seems to be many with time on their hands and just come to the forum to shout and fight.
   
   They should start a blog and use that for their outlet, not a forum. Many I am from would have banned a few dozen from here already.
   
   Also most don't even allow the subjects that are posted here. Religion and politics in a writing forum is not a good mix. If you want to argue about those subjects there are plenty in sites dealing with those.

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   cathinfranceposted 15 years ago

   What Wesley said. Knocking things down is easy; building is harder. (Kirsten - that photo is ridiculously cute!)

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      kirstenblogposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      Awww thank you Cagy and sufi would probably warn you not to trust that cute raccoon face to much

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   logic,commonsenseposted 15 years ago

   Its like sex.  If we all went along and got along, it would be pretty boring.
   Conflict brings out the best and worst of us.  Gives us the opportunity to measure others and somtimes insight we did not previously have access to.
   Doesn't mean we can't be supportive on one anothers efforts however.

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   habeeposted 15 years ago

   Some people thrive on controversy and confrontation. Me? I like for everyone to get along! Does that make me boring?

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      maudine_05posted 15 years agoin reply to this

      Absolutely NOT!!!!  I like everything bubbly...
      as you quoted "anyone /anything which angers you ,controls you..." so why who'd anyone be bothered for others opinion different from theirs? I mean, if they find your view/perspective unacceptable then be it,as long as you know your stand.

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    Crazdwriterposted 15 years ago

    No habee that doesn't make you boring, makes you a sweetheart! And I too like to help ppl. My forum about me helping ppl went bye bye lol I said that if I have any topipcs you have written about just send me the link and i'll link it to mine to help that way

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    ralwusposted 15 years ago

    I first joined as CC Riter a year tomorrow. It was not like this then. It seems to have gotten worse since last spring. It is an open door for trouble, and I fear we shall lose it altogether.

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    habeeposted 15 years ago

    Hi, Crazd! I'm really not boring. I'm very funny in person.

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    habeeposted 15 years ago

    Hi, Charlie horse!

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    Uninvited Writerposted 15 years ago

    I'm not blaming any one but it seems to have gotten worse the bigger the religion forum has gotten. When I started 75% or more of the posts on the forum were not in the religion forum.

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    habeeposted 15 years ago

    Hi, UW! Yep, it gets pretty nasty over there sometimes. Why can't people debate and discuss without becoming rude?

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    lorlie6posted 15 years ago

    Exactly-I couldn't agree more, so I simply stay away from those forums.  I think I'm a pretty nice person, myself, boring, perhaps, but pretty danged civilized!  Funny, too!

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    habeeposted 15 years ago

    Lor girl, you are not boring!

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    mega1posted 15 years ago

    I personally have witnessed a couple basic misunderstandings that turned a little ugly and then I had to get involved etc. but most of what I see and do on the forums is intended as humor - comedy - make each other laugh type of thing, but then, there are always people who do not appreciate my type of humor and I get that.  Me - I need to laugh! got to laugh!  None of us can please everybody all the time!  And frankly, while I don't think its boring to be nice, I do get bored when people are ultra-serious all the time and not ready for a good laugh.  and btw I told my boss today the blonde GUY joke and he thought it was hysterical!  he used to be blonde, is now bald! 
    
    oh, and I just stay away from religion and politics discussions and that works for me.  I don't have anything to say about a lot of things people talk about.

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    K Partinposted 15 years ago

    Personally it doesn't bother me, I'm going to ramble on if you like it or not. I'm more concerned with little clicks on the forums. It's too bad for the new hubbers to feel this way. I know I've tried to converse with many on here and been ignored like I wasn't even there! Oh well so is life huh? I'll just try to produce good hubs and be involved in the community as much as I can. Happy to be here!!

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       mega1posted 15 years agoin reply to this

       ya know?  the same has happened to me sometimes - so that's when I pull out this little guy
          
       
       then I get some attention, all right!  I am losing my ability to even have a conversation!  sometimes I think I just am talking to the moon!  So, yeh - moon!  How's it feel being so full, moon? 

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          K Partinposted 15 years agoin reply to this

          Ha! Love the little guy! I find myself talking to myself too or the wall even. Hey nice talking with ya!

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    ralwusposted 15 years ago

    clicks or cliques? Do we have those here? I just try to get along the best I can and sometimes I really enjoy the drama as it unfolds. It is harmless enough until something really nasty arrives like racism {month of February mostly}and deep hatred or when someone like Usmanali sneaks in. I think that was his name. He caused havoc.

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    mega1posted 15 years ago

    It occurs to me that a lot of us who join in on forums every day seem to have a bunch of free time - whether it is too much free time I could not say - I have a lot of time because I am a caregiver with not too much to do some of the day, but still I have to be here with my client - so this is ideal.  But I often use the forums as a way to procrastinate because I could be doing other things like writing more hubs, but I do so like to just chit chat away!  Why do other people have this extra time to chit chat? I wonder? hmmmmmm?  Maybe that's its own thread. hmmmmmmm.

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    K Partinposted 15 years ago

    I like to chit chat with the best of them, I went on disability retirement recently so I have some time. But not as much as I would like for the forums. I was hoping to have more time for them and my hubs, but it's true what they say when you retire there just isn't enough time in the day! So I'm here and write when I can....

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       mega1posted 15 years agoin reply to this

       they talked me into it - I had to go look at yuor hubs and left you a comment on GoGirl - very funny hub.  I was just discussing toilet seat covers with a friend - - I am now trying to get up enough courage to say what must be said about them in a hub!

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          K Partinposted 15 years agoin reply to this

          Ha! Thanks Mega. I couldn't believe it when I was writing it either. When you write yours let me know can't wait! No pun intended.

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    Indigitamentaposted 15 years ago

    It starts with me and it ends with me. If I refuse to take part in fights, then as far as I'm concerned hubpages is a peaceful place and as good as any.

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    ralwusposted 15 years ago

    Mostly if one stays away from the controversial threads one can have some nice moments, until a troll arrives. They always do. Ignore them.

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       K Partinposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       Ditto that!!

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    Citrus000posted 15 years ago

    Hey K and Mega,
    I had to visit the go girl once again after I read this thread.
    
    http://hubpages.com/hub/Go-Girl-Are-You-Kidding-Me
    If you have a minute and are interested in a laugh... check it out.

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       Indigitamentaposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       This is crazy. This woman has one finger in her nose.

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          K Partinposted 15 years agoin reply to this

          Oh well....I've seen worse!

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          Bill Manningposted 15 years agoin reply to this

          Yeah she likes to poke herself a lot in all her holes,,, JK Citrus000

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    Citrus000posted 15 years ago

    Hey bill.

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    Bill Manningposted 15 years ago

    Hey girl, how's your night going? Having fun?

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