In Ireland at the moment there are more and more high profile cases of men killing their wife and indeed women killing their husband, can this ever be justified, can a crime of passion be a justifiable death....
I could be wrong about this, but ...I believe it used to be legally justified to kill your spouse IF they were unfaithful; or to kill the offending interloper.
But these days, with divorce (except when there's money to fight over) being handed out at the idea of "irreconcilable differences", it's very easy to get a divorce, therefore never holding the offending party accountable.
Why wouldn't someone have the right to take their own life? If someone is terminally ill with no hope of anything but pain and misery, why shouldn't they be allowed to bring their suffering to an end? Honestly, who are you or anyone else to dictate that.
Killing another person can and is justified in many situations. To say it is never justified is naive.
Killing a spouse because of infidelity is not justifiable in my opinion. Killing a spouse because they present an immediate danger of grave harm to you or your children is justifiable.
My wife worked with someone who was in an abusive marriage. During one of the many brutal beatings she regularly received, her 8 year old daughter tried to intervene and her husband punched the girl and broke her jaw. The woman got hold of a gun in the house and killed him. This all transpired in a matter of a few minutes. She was charged, but then within a week all charges were dismissed. How many of you saying killing is never justified would not have done the same if in that situation?
For those religious folks out there, the Bible condemns murder, but not killing another person. There is a big difference between the two. Murder implies forethought and malice of intent.
Justifiable, no. But the very inclusion of the word "passion" means that the killer FEELS justified at the moment of action...and what the rest of the world thinks or does not think isn't included in the equation.
One of the most remarkable cases I've heard about occurred a few years back in rural Montana. The couple lived in a remote mountain cabin, high above the snowline, no neighbors nearby or even within sight. They'd been together quite a few years. One night (drinking, no surprise there), the wife kept telling the husband to shut up. He wouldn't. Things escalated. Finally, he told her, "If you want me to shut up, just shoot me!" So she did. That didn't shut him up. So she shot him again. That worked. Then she covered his bullet-punctured face and called 911 on her cell phone.
there have been several high profile cases recently where people killed their spouses, allegedly these killings were all carried out as there were 'affirs' going on....husband meets younger woman type of thing.....
The capital punishment thing is a whole different discussion, we have cases here in Ireland coming back to haunt us from the time of the British presence, new documents and disclosures show that some Irish people lied against other Irish people in ordinary criminal matters and some people were hanged for crimes they did not committ....very difficult situation....
cosette, I am hearing what you are saying, but for example here in Ireland we recently had the revelation that a senior politician here in Ireland Gerry Adams - had concealed the activities of two child rapists from the authorities, nobody is calling for Gerry Adams to be hanged...surely he is as guilty as the people who carried out the crimes particularly when he helped both to conceal their crimes......I just dont know the answer myself there seems to be a lot of double standards...
According to FBI statistics here in America, there is a girl child raped every 4 minutes, a boy child raped every 5 minutes, and a woman raped every 6 minutes. Those stats do NOT include crimes committed by parents or marital rape, nor do most local cops arrest a man for said crime even though it is the law in all 50 states.
As both the survivor of vicious childhood abuse -- including sexual abuse -- and domestic violence, and the mother of a boy who was raped at 7 because his damnable father decided how I felt about my birth family was of little consequence as HE LOVED THEM! Even after he saw their abuse, and KNEW my son had been abused. My boy waited until he was 18 to tell me. When I asked him "Why?" he waited so long, he said: "Because you would have killed them, Mom, and then where would I have been?" He is absolutely correct!! And I still would. Line them up, get your camera, and I will thrilled to show you just exactly how the moms of raped kids feel about the death penalty. Don't stand too close. I can knock the 'O' out a Stop sign with a rifle, hollow points, and a sniper scope at 500 yards.
really? why did he do that? protect child rapists, i mean. while i agree that protecting someone like that is horrible, they didn't actually commit the acts upon these children, so they aren't as accountable. they are to some degree, but not as accountable as the men (or women) who actually do the awful deed(s).
All pimps feel the same way. So do 'prostitution breakers'. I assume you know what those are? Men who rape and rerape, usually induce drugs into the victims to keep them compliant, and have NO qualms about raping an infant or a child under five. Aren't AS accountable as the 'in your face' rapist and pedophile? Yes, they are. And are according to God's laws. Saying nothing, doing nothing, sweeping the crimes under the rug, all fall into the category of "accessory before and after the fact". The ONLY castration I believe in for sexual predators, regardless of age of criminal or victim, regardless of race of criminal or victim, regardless of economic status of criminal or victim, is castration from the neck down. As ye sow so shall ye reap ... The cross was good enough for God's son and He committed no crime. Execution is most assuredly good enough for those who do. Two petty thieves were crucified with the Lord that day. God only pitched a royal fit over his boy's murder. The other two were criminals.
Why did he do it? to protect his political career, one of them was his brother the other his father, he has admitted this on TV as one of the victims (his niece) spoke out after being forced into silence for many years......yet he remains a senior politician getting his pic in the paper etc.....
One of the most high profile trials (man kills wife) is coming to an end here in Ireland, the woman had once been in a James Bond Movie and her husband was a film producer.....the woman was brutally murdered and her husband said he had seen a man run from the house.....crazy world....any way if you wish to read the facts about this story I have a link on my Hub to The Irish Times which is the paper of record in Ireland.....
There's alot of crime, there's crime almost everywhere you look, they just make it seem so much more.. huge in the shows and movies. I mean, I do not walk down a street without seeing a police car with flashing lights and a siren or a cop running past me. I mean.. There are over 2000 unsolved murder myesteries in the city.. So, Crime is alot, but there's not so much of like.. huge prostitution rings where every other costumer gets killed by a giant green swordfish like CSI is aiming for people to think.
Thanks NY that is good to hear, although I love CSI NY/MIAMI etc have alot of the DVDs, here in Ireland we have small amounts of crime compared to other countries, well with a population of 5 million that is to be expected, but we do have some high profile murders and this keeps the media busy....
I dont actually know what honor killings are, what we do have is small ruthless gangs of drug dealers in our cities, but they mainly kill there own over small petty amounts of money...scum bags really....
So it's pretty much the same as we have here. Mostly just some gang bangers shooting each other over the littlest reason. Honor killings is like.. when you would kill your daughter for having sex or getting pregnant before marriage or something like that. Some religious parties and countries allow it. I heard Ireland was raging in honor murdering.
Jesus No, no problem with sex in Ireland, there was a time when people in Ireland would have been dictated to by the Catholic Church but now it has lost its power due to various scandals....no just ordinary boring crime.....most people dont see it as it is in ghettoes in Dublin(1.5 million population) thats our biggest city....there is probably that many people living in parts of NY.....so relatively small stuff here..
Latest up date on that trial here in Ireland (man on trial for killing his wife) while the man said he had seen an intruder run from the house, the Police later found blood stained clothes in the attic in a suitcase....these clothes are very similar to the clothe sthe husband was wearing earlier that morning as seen on CCTV as he entered a shop.....
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