Has anyone had abuse or complaints because some people are scared from capital letters for example
"Clearly You think we are DEAF hmm
Not Only is it Bad Manners to Yell (in CAPS) at us in a forum;
but it is also against your TOS to self promote your hubs this way. And just in case You are Deaf... "DO YOU UNDERSTAND?" hmm
I MEAN REALLY !!!!
i don't understand it either. i never see caps as shouting, although some old-school internet users do.
interesting...
Bad manners to yell in caps? Seriously =/
I rarely type in caps but that's just ridiculious.
I have sevrsl problems with this
One is the person was not interested in starting a new sport !
Two why is this person looking for and argument when not even interested in the article
Three they are VERY immature posting abuse for the following reasons -JELOUSY BEING THE MAIN ONE -IMMATURE -CHILDISH -LOOKING TO START ARGUMENTS
I don't get why people find it offensive, but it can be kind of annoying when people write EVERYTHING in capital letters. Like I WENT TO THE MALL YESTERDAY AND GOT AN AMAZING PAIR OF SHOWER SHORTS. THEY'RE REALLY RED AND THEY COME WITH A COMPLIMENTARY SHOWER WALLET WHERE YOUR MONEY DOES NOT GET WET BECAUSE IT'S WATERPROOF.
That's pretty annoying, but I use capital letters when I'm putting emphasis on something, like you used, "VERY immature".
AGREED
It was always my understanding that using Capital letters meant an emphasis on that particular word and since voice inflection is hard to hear in a forum atmosphere......
I'd think with all the other problems we face just gettin by day to day being offended by capital letters seems quite juvinile to me.
i really do not how people can take offensive at capital letters. They are still letters after all
I know I really dont know why some people would compare it to shouting I mean really its just text !
I believe utilizing all caps not only looks like your yelling, but it also looks a little unprofessional when using it INCORRECTLY! Ex:
WHO IS SUSAN B.? or HI JAMIE HOW ARE YOU TODAY?
Who Is Susan B.? or Hi Jamie How Are You Today?
It Looks much more professional and is proper English etiquette when a person does not yell, Using all caps unless necessary can be a little tacky.
Having caps lock on is considered poor Internet etiquette when posting to a forum or email group. It is seen as the equivalent of shouting constantly when having a spoken conversation.
It's as simple as that.
LOL What is really pathetic is when people post threads like this
How is this a pathetic thread? I mean, the guy is just talking about something that he feels there's a need to talk about.
Well if you don't understand I can try to explain of course.
The guy just insists that millions of people will change the meaning they agreed on to assign to CAPS just because the guy does not like it. It is like he comes to you and insists that your city is called not New York, but Scoobie-Doobie-Do, just because he thinks this is how it should be called.
Oh, I see your point. Okay.
Yeah, I saw this thread more of a complaning center, understand? Like.. where people come to bitch about all those people who write everything with Caps.
I didn't agree to give all caps a meaning! I am not bound by the same rules the rest of you are! I am a REBEL!
That's true. Writing in caps is "just text", but it's become accepted that online, it means you're shouting.
For people who've been online a long time or use email a lot, we've got used to that convention - so yes, we automatically read it as shouting. And if someone yells at me, I'm going to be offended.
When you go to a new country, you have to learn the rules. There's no point in objecting to the use of caps - it's become established, so you just have to accept it.
YOU GO MISHA,I HATE IT WHEN PEOPLE USE ALL CAPS!!!!!!
oops,damn caps key got stuck again.....
Yea it is pathetic in the great scheme of things.
Doesnt bother me , amuses me is all, my first thought is well ....you dont wanna know ok ok if you insist
Makes me think ,whoa not very educated , there I said it
Has anyone had abuse or complaints because some people are scared from capital letters for example
"Clearly You think we are DEAF hmm
Not Only is it Bad Manners to Yell (in CAPS) at us in a forum;
but it is also against your TOS to self promote your hubs this way. And just in case You are Deaf... "DO YOU UNDERSTAND?" hmm
I MEAN REALLY !!!!
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Let's just review this together;
He seems to be complaining and referring to those who think Caps are offensive as minor; more stupid people.
I think that about settles it.
Well the point of the pathetic thread ....was to see if anyone was "offended" this being the key word okay ! so....Out of everyone who has commented on this not one person has said it offends them yes ?
"Unproffesional" "Doesnt bother me" "i really do not how people can take offensive at capital letters" "I don't get why people find it offensive"
Sooo......It is maybee all of these things but the point of it all was too see if people thought it was offensive !!!!!
And I mean really Misha get a grip of yourself....really bad example comparing The name of a city to a caps lock button on a keyboard !!!!
So in the grand scheme of things I win and proved my point that it is not offensive YES OR NO !!!!
Have folks forgotten that a large group of readers have difficulty, even with glasses, to read small print? I wonder who decided using caps is considered shouting. Ridiculous, if you ask me.
Amazes me, all the sensitive egos out there and how easily offended the population has become.
Actually, Trish, I wear glasses and have difficulty in reading small print. I find text that is all in capitals more difficult to read than a normal mixture of small and upper case. I also find text that is completely in italics more difficult to read.
For my profession, I have to read a lot of information, everyday, and critically analyse the meanings, intentions and emotions behind the writing.
Over the years, I have developed an 'inner voice,' so that when I read words, I actually hear them being spoken in my head. It helps to understand context and pick up subtleties.
When somebody types in caps, I actually do hear it as shouting!
It is very disconcerting
Nods in agreement, and I can feel the spittle hit the screen too
Then again ,just thinking about it , who decided it was shouting ? probably the written word grammer word squad...hehe
One of my friends prints and writes in capitals , she always has , she said it helps her see better and know what shes written , I dunno .
Personally I thnk its just an expression of rebellion
In the 70s and 80s before the web, there was USENET and and various dial up BBS systems. These systems were the predecessors of forums like this one.
Since there were no graphics and only a single font, with no bold or italics, it was hard to read emotional intent in the messages. Therefore, conventions were developed, to help convey emotional information such as the emoticons and the use of capital letters to "shout".
Since the community was small, it was easy to "agree" on what it meant.
You can see the ASCII roots in the software used to run this forum in that if you type the characters : ) it generates .
More than once I have received e-mails that were written in caps, and it was evident from the words that they were not happy. It came across as yelling, and yes, I was offended at their lack of manners.
To me, caps do come across as yelling. If the dialog is directed at me, I will respond to it by informing the person that I will not speak to someone who insists on yelling. If they would like to discuss something, then turn off the cap locks and try again.
I have also informed people on forums, who seem to be very new to the Internet world, that caps are considered yelling. We were all new at some point, and had to learn the 'rules'.
I am often offended by capital letters...however...I try to focus on the economy and politics as they are the things that really matter
It depends if the other person knows what that means, in other culture capital letters doesnt mean anything
Capitals are just upper case in text why do some people consider ......this different from THIS and go out of their way to comment on it if you look at the example given under the title
"Clearly You think we are DEAF hmm
Not Only is it Bad Manners to Yell (in CAPS) at us in a forum;
but it is also against your TOS to self promote your hubs this way. And just in case You are Deaf... "DO YOU UNDERSTAND?" hmm
I MEAN REALLY !!!!
Someone went out of their way to type this just because of my use of capitals and I find this pathetic
I already explained above, although I do not get offended. However, I choose to skip over posts with excessive capitals.
Yeah thats kind of my point you skipped past but some people would go out of their way to write back abuse and take offense and that is the pathetic part
Understood - I generally would not go out of my way to make it an issue. However, if we were having an interesting debate and you used all capitals, I would politely ask you to stop.
Pretty much the same as if we were sat at a table having a debate and you kept shouting in my ear. Nothing to do with oversensitivity, just that it is difficult to hear what you are saying
WHAT SUFI? SPEAK UP? I CAN'T HEAR YOU TALK LOUDER!
Sorry man, couldn't resist! (Is that pathetic?)
hehe - I have now taken mortal offence, and will only accept an apology if it is accompanied by a bottle of finest bourbon, sent by airmail
How are you keeping, anyway? Still buried by lots of work?
Yes, and a few small other issues just to make it entertaining! Would love to send you some burbon ... uh ... later.
Maybe wait until later in the year, but we could organise a bourbon for Ouzo exchange
*slaps Daniel on the back of the head*
Slap noted. Please note, sufi, it's not my day to behave. I think it's tomorrow.
hehe - I look forward to reading a little late-night forum chaos later on
So has anyone who commented on this went out of their way to leave a smart comment or give abuse because of someones use of capitals ?
I don't get offended if someone responds in caps, I just don't respond if someone is shouting.
Much ado about nothing, as usual. I'm in a mood, I guess, otherwise I'd keep such thoughts to myself.
So I don't blame the guy--I'm doing it too.
When I taught word processing programs, I found that some individuals cannot read the words unless they are in 'all caps.' I'm the other way and cannot read the words if the are in all caps. lol
Very sensible, Patty. I think what it boils down to is that which we are most familiar. We were taught to read using upper and lower case, and that is considered the norm. However, as you point out, some of us are geared a little differently, and it's not wrong, but only different, perhaps.
The norm, then, may be that most people get the feeling that all caps is a form of shouting. But despite that, we certainly use it to our advantage for effect!
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Clearly This OP has for some reason taken what I had posted as Abuse
So much so that he has emailed me with a smartarse statement about me being Gay!!
Clearly, he doesn't know me at all especially if he thinks he got a hard time for showing lack of protocol here.
Factually, as the OP stated in his PM to me; this thread was only started to counter the advice given and to endorse his smartarse email that was sent to me prior to starting the thread......
The Level of Immaturity is demontrated by the fact that this bleater has no understanding of what Caps represent in a forum and states that he couldn't give a toss about such protocol.
Let's be honest Newbie... You Will Bite Off Far More Than You Can Chew if you think it's Okay to email me with Gay Remarks or Similar!
Do You Understand That???
Isn't it ok to be gay? So many on this site stand up for the rights of people who are gay but are offended when they are called gay, whats the deal?
I think PD's point is that the word "gay" was used against him as a weapon. Any word can be used as a weapon. There's no point in bringing weapons to a thread like this.
I know it was used as a weapon, but how could something like the word gay effect anyone? This isn't directed specifically at Pearldiver just a question in general. If its ok to be gay then why is the word still used as a "weapon"? Why do those most vocal in their support of homosexuals use it as a "weapon"?
Pearldiver is the one who decided to bring weapons into this saying I lied all I have been in contact with him was when he left abuse on one of my forums So.....THAT INSPIRED THIS ONE THANKS !
The Deal is quite simple.... I don't appreciate WuckFits sending BS emails to my Biz Email site. A bit Gutless mate! I'm Not Gay, nor was I out of line pointing out what I did to this Sock Puppet!
I read all cap words as shouting, and yes that does annoy me. If I see even a full sentence in all caps I don't bother to read it. Most people understand this and don't use all caps.
I can't read all-caps, so I also ignore same. lol
Attention all hubbers! I am now using the word Mustard as a weapon. That is all.
fINE, be THat Way THen. I will GIVE it a big TRY too! HEY! that hurt! mister.
I was referring to denno's mustard threat - well, I thought it was funny!
I don't get bent out of shape if someone uses caps. It does look a bit silly or improper in most cases.
As for the "gay' thing.. Many young people today are using the word gay to describe something they think is stupid or a waste of time etc... ie: "That movie was so gay" or "How gay is it they want me to work over-time" So you see the context of the gay term may have been mistaken. He may just think you were rude or being stupid?? I'm not sure??
hmm this is just a tidbit:
Architects write in all caps. no matter what. Its just whats 'professional' in the architecture world I guess!
Personally: Don't like the all caps. In academia, its a no-no!
Why would someone lie about an e-mail ....maybe because they were pathetic and wrote abuse I dont understand why you would make a claim like that ! I dont apperciate lies !
Really? I don't like liars either.
http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/35109?page=3#post785748
And you seem to be very self concious about your sexuality I did not even mention it !? keep it up cheif !
WHAT'S THE PROBLEM WITH CAPS ?
Sometimes is good to shout.
AND I DON'T LIKE THE TONE YOU USE TO ADDRESS PD !
Just because possibly the worlds best answer haha i love it !
I accidently hit the caps when I go for the 'a' at time and don't notices until it's too late OOOPS my bad hehehe
hey welcome to hubpages 05Jamie
So I think we have just about established that 99% of people with lives would not go out of our way to put smart comments at someone using caps !!!!!!
How IDIOTIC is it when people use UPPERCASE to try and get their point across?
And by that I mean complete sentences. Or for an entire post. Or a whole hub.
I admin a digg-like site for lenses and it says in the submission rules not to have uppercase for headline yet some people still do, despite the warning.
So people who overuse uppercase tend to not read, understand, care or comply.
HI TANTRUM,
YOU SURE ARE FULL OF "P"AND "VINIGER" TO NIGHT!
love ya lol
Only you people could talk this much about CAPS LOCK!!
I'm serious.
I have to admit that I am one of the people who is offended by capital letters in print especially online.
If the entire topic title is in captitals, I never read any further. In my mind it implies either a lack of consideration, a lack of self-control, an oversized ego, or an inability to speak coherently and convincingly in an accepted manner.
I'm not offended by it, I have no interest in peoples' thoughts who write this way.
the online community is another form of communication and with any communication there are basic rules of etiquette to learn and follow. if you know better and shout to be heard, it's nothing worth hearing. if you don't know, then now you do.
when I first started writing online, I asked my oldest son to read the entry, and he called me immediately and said, ' mom, I can't read it, you have it in bold type, it's a huge faux paus, go in and change it asap.' so I did, but I didn't know the 'rules' and then found a site which talked about online writing etiquette.
HEY! Can we discuss the excessive use of exclamation marks? because I do that! I like to exclaim! way toooooo much! and also, how about adding letters as in waaaaaaaaaaay BAD!!
To answer your question after reading your response Jamie05, yes I am OFFENDED!
This topic is dear to my heart, I suppose you'd say. I 'friended' a guy on Facebook that I knew 30 years ago who was pretty much a loudmouthed arse back then.
I was not surprised to see that he now writes in all caps.
It's hysterical-to me!
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