How PATHETIC is it when people are offended by capital letters !

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   05Jamieposted 14 years ago

   Has anyone had abuse or complaints because some people are scared from capital letters for example
   
   "Clearly You think we are DEAF hmm
   
   Not Only is it Bad Manners to Yell (in CAPS) at us in a forum;
   but it is also against your TOS to self promote your hubs this way.  And just in case You are Deaf... "DO YOU UNDERSTAND?" hmm
   
   I MEAN REALLY !!!!

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      cosetteposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      i don't understand it either. i never see caps as shouting, although some old-school internet users do.
      
      interesting...

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      TheVerbalAxiomposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Bad manners to yell in caps? Seriously =/
      
      I rarely type in caps but that's just ridiculious.

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   05Jamieposted 14 years ago

   I have sevrsl problems with this
   
   One is the person was not interested in starting a new sport !
   
   Two why is this person looking for and argument when not even interested in the article
   
   Three they are VERY immature posting abuse for the following reasons -JELOUSY BEING THE MAIN ONE -IMMATURE -CHILDISH -LOOKING TO START ARGUMENTS

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      NewYorkerposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      I don't get why people find it offensive, but it can be kind of annoying when people write EVERYTHING in capital letters. Like I WENT TO THE MALL YESTERDAY AND GOT AN AMAZING PAIR OF SHOWER SHORTS. THEY'RE REALLY RED AND THEY COME WITH A COMPLIMENTARY SHOWER WALLET WHERE YOUR MONEY DOES NOT GET WET BECAUSE IT'S WATERPROOF.
      
      That's pretty annoying, but I use capital letters when I'm putting emphasis on something, like you used, "VERY immature".

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         AnythingArtzyposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         AGREED
         It was always my understanding that using Capital letters meant an emphasis on that particular word and since voice inflection is hard to hear in a forum atmosphere......
         I'd think with all the other problems we face just gettin by day to day being offended by capital letters seems quite juvinile to me.

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   05Jamieposted 14 years ago

   Same haha nice example !!!!!

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   poetlorraineposted 14 years ago

   i really do not how people can take offensive at capital letters.   They are still letters after all

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   05Jamieposted 14 years ago

   I know I really dont know why some people would compare it to shouting I mean really its just text !

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      whiteorchidsposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      I believe utilizing all caps not only looks like your yelling, but it also looks a little unprofessional when using it INCORRECTLY! Ex:
      
      WHO IS SUSAN B.? or HI JAMIE HOW ARE YOU TODAY?
      
      Who Is Susan B.? or Hi Jamie How Are You Today?
      
      It Looks much more professional and is proper English etiquette when a person does not yell, Using all caps unless necessary can be a little tacky.

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   WriteAngledposted 14 years ago

   Having caps lock on is considered poor Internet etiquette when posting to a forum or email group. It is seen as the equivalent of shouting constantly when having a spoken conversation.
   It's as simple as that.

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   05Jamieposted 14 years ago

   Does it offend you personaly ?

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   Mishaposted 14 years ago

   LOL What is really pathetic is when people post threads like this

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      NewYorkerposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      How is this a pathetic thread? I mean, the guy is just talking about something that he feels there's a need to talk about.

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         Mishaposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Well if you don't understand I can try to explain of course.
         
         The guy just insists that millions of people will change the meaning they agreed on to assign to CAPS just because the guy does not like it. It is like he comes to you and insists that your city is called not New York, but Scoobie-Doobie-Do, just because he thinks this is how it should be called.

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            NewYorkerposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            Oh, I see your point. Okay.
            
            Yeah, I saw this thread more of a complaning center, understand? Like.. where people come to bitch about all those people who write everything with Caps.

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            A Texanposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            I didn't agree to give all caps a meaning! I am not bound by the same rules the rest of you are! I am a REBEL!

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            Marisa Wrightposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            That's true.  Writing in caps is "just text", but it's become accepted that online, it means you're shouting. 
            
            For people who've been online a long time or use email a lot, we've got used to that convention - so yes, we automatically read it as shouting.  And if someone yells at me, I'm going to be offended.
            
            When you go to a new country, you have to learn the rules.  There's no point in objecting to the use of caps - it's become established, so you just have to accept it.

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      Sab Ohposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      YOU'RE RIGHT!

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      cheaptrickposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      YOU GO MISHA,I HATE IT WHEN PEOPLE USE ALL CAPS!!!!!!
      oops,damn caps key got stuck again.....

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   Eaglekiwiposted 14 years ago

   Yea  it is pathetic in the great scheme of things.
   
   Doesnt bother me , amuses me is all, my first thought is well ....you dont wanna know  ok ok if you insist
   Makes me think ,whoa not very educated , there I said  it

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    Mishaposted 14 years ago

    Now you confused me LOL. May be I mistook the guys intention?

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       NewYorkerposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Has anyone had abuse or complaints because some people are scared from capital letters for example
       
       "Clearly You think we are DEAF hmm
       
       Not Only is it Bad Manners to Yell (in CAPS) at us in a forum;
       but it is also against your TOS to self promote your hubs this way.  And just in case You are Deaf... "DO YOU UNDERSTAND?" hmm
       
       I MEAN REALLY !!!!
       
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       Let's just review this together;
       
       He seems to be complaining and referring to those who think Caps are offensive as minor; more stupid people.
       
       I think that about settles it.

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    Mishaposted 14 years ago

    OK, that's for saving my sanity LOL

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    05Jamieposted 14 years ago

    Well the point of the pathetic thread ....was to see if anyone was "offended" this being the key word okay ! so....Out of everyone who has commented on this not one person has said it offends them yes ?
    
    "Unproffesional" "Doesnt bother me" "i really do not how people can take offensive at capital letters" "I don't get why people find it offensive" 
    
    
    Sooo......It is maybee all of these things but the point of it all was too see if people thought it was offensive !!!!!
    
    And I mean really Misha get a grip of yourself....really bad example comparing The name of a city to a caps lock button on a keyboard !!!!
    
    So in the grand scheme of things I win and proved my point that it is not offensive YES OR NO !!!!

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    trish1048posted 14 years ago

    Have folks forgotten that a large group of readers have difficulty, even with glasses, to read small print?  I wonder who decided using caps is considered shouting.  Ridiculous, if you ask me.
    Amazes me, all the sensitive egos out there and how easily offended the population has become.

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       WriteAngledposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Actually, Trish, I wear glasses and have difficulty in reading small print. I find text that is all in capitals more difficult to read than a normal mixture of small and upper case. I also find text that is completely in italics more difficult to read.

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          Mishaposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          Same here. I don't even bother usually

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    Sufidreamerposted 14 years ago

    For my profession, I have to read a lot of information, everyday, and critically analyse the meanings, intentions and emotions behind the writing.
    
    Over the years, I have developed an 'inner voice,' so that when I read words, I actually hear them being spoken in my head. It helps to understand context and pick up subtleties.
    
    When somebody types in caps, I actually do hear it as shouting!
    
    It is very disconcerting

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       Eaglekiwiposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Nods in agreement, and I can feel the spittle hit the screen  too 
       
       Then again ,just thinking about it , who decided it was shouting ? probably  the written word grammer word squad...hehe
       
       One of my friends prints and writes in capitals , she always has , she said it helps her see better and know what shes written , I dunno .
       
       Personally I thnk its just an expression of rebellion 

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          BDazzlerposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          In the 70s and 80s before the web, there was USENET and and various dial up BBS systems.  These systems were the predecessors of forums like this one.
          
          Since there were no graphics and only a single font, with no bold or italics, it was hard to read emotional intent in the messages. Therefore,   conventions were developed, to help convey emotional information such as the emoticons and the use of capital letters to "shout". 
          
          Since the community was small, it was easy to "agree" on what it meant. 
          
          You can see the ASCII roots in the software used to run this forum in that if you type the characters : )  it generates .

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       Ivorwenposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       More than once I have received e-mails that were written in caps, and it was evident from the words that they were not happy.  It came across as yelling, and yes, I was offended at their lack of manners.
       
       To me, caps do come across as yelling.  If the dialog is directed at me, I will respond to it by informing the person that I will not speak to someone who insists on yelling.  If they would like to discuss something, then turn off the cap locks and try again.
       
       I have also informed people on forums, who seem to be very new to the Internet world, that caps are considered yelling.  We were all new at some point, and had to learn the 'rules'.

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    theirishobserver.posted 14 years ago

    I am often offended by capital letters...however...I try to focus on the economy and politics as they are the things that really matter

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    alexandriaruthkposted 14 years ago

    It depends if the other person knows what that means, in other culture capital letters doesnt mean anything

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    05Jamieposted 14 years ago

    Capitals are just upper case in text why do some people consider ......this different from THIS and go out of their way to comment on it if you look at the example given under the title
    
    "Clearly You think we are DEAF hmm
    
    Not Only is it Bad Manners to Yell (in CAPS) at us in a forum;
    but it is also against your TOS to self promote your hubs this way.  And just in case You are Deaf... "DO YOU UNDERSTAND?" hmm
    
    I MEAN REALLY !!!!
    
    Someone went out of their way to type this just because of my use of capitals and I find this pathetic

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       Sufidreamerposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       I already explained above, although I do not get offended. However, I choose to skip over posts with excessive capitals.

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    05Jamieposted 14 years ago

    Yeah thats kind of my point you skipped past but some people would go out of their way to write back abuse and take offense and that is the pathetic part

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       Sufidreamerposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Understood - I generally would not go out of my way to make it an issue. However, if we were having an interesting debate and you used all capitals, I would politely ask you to stop.
       
       Pretty much the same as if we were sat at a table having a debate and you kept shouting in my ear. Nothing to do with oversensitivity, just that it is difficult to hear what you are saying

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          BDazzlerposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          WHAT SUFI?  SPEAK UP?  I CAN'T HEAR YOU TALK LOUDER!
          
          Sorry man, couldn't resist!   (Is that pathetic?)

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             Sufidreamerposted 14 years agoin reply to this

             hehe - I have now taken mortal offence, and will only accept an apology if it is accompanied by a bottle of finest bourbon, sent by airmail
             
             How are you keeping, anyway? Still buried by lots of work?

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                BDazzlerposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                Yes, and a few small other issues just to make it entertaining!  Would love to send you some burbon ... uh ... later.

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                   Sufidreamerposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                   Maybe wait until later in the year, but we could organise a bourbon for Ouzo exchange
                   
                   *slaps Daniel on the back of the head*

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                      Daniel Carterposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                      Slap noted. Please note, sufi, it's not my day to behave. I think it's tomorrow.
                      

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                         Sufidreamerposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                         hehe - I look forward to reading a little late-night forum chaos later on

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    05Jamieposted 14 years ago

    So has anyone who commented on this went out of their way to leave a smart comment or give abuse because of someones use of capitals ?

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    rebekahELLEposted 14 years ago

    I don't get offended if someone responds in caps, I just don't respond if someone is shouting.

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    Daniel Carterposted 14 years ago

    WOW! GREAT THREAD!

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    Paradise7posted 14 years ago

    Much ado about nothing, as usual.  I'm in a mood, I guess, otherwise I'd keep such thoughts to myself.
    
    So I don't blame the guy--I'm doing it too.

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    Patty Inglish, MSposted 14 years ago

    When I taught word processing programs, I found that some individuals cannot read the words unless they are in 'all caps.' I'm the other way and cannot read the words if the are in all caps. lol

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       Daniel Carterposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Very sensible, Patty. I think what it boils down to is that which we are most familiar. We were taught to read using upper and lower case, and that is considered the norm. However, as you point out, some of us are geared a little differently, and it's not wrong, but only different, perhaps.
       
       The norm, then, may be that most people get the feeling that all caps is a form of shouting. But despite that, we certainly use it to our advantage for effect!

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       motricioposted 14 years agoin reply to this

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    Pearldiverposted 14 years ago

    Clearly This OP has for some reason taken what I had posted as Abuse  
    
    So much so that he has emailed me with a smartarse statement about me being Gay!!
    
    Clearly, he doesn't know me at all especially if he thinks he got a hard time for showing lack of protocol here. 
    
    Factually, as the OP stated in his PM to me; this thread was only started to counter the advice given and to endorse his smartarse email that was sent to me prior to starting the thread......
    
    The Level of Immaturity is demontrated by the fact that this bleater has no understanding of what Caps represent in a forum and states that he couldn't give a toss about such protocol.
    
    Let's be honest Newbie... You Will Bite Off Far More Than You Can Chew if you think it's Okay to email me with Gay Remarks or Similar!
    
    Do You Understand That???

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    A Texanposted 14 years ago

    Isn't it ok to be gay? So many on this site stand up for the rights of people who are gay but are offended when they are called gay, whats the deal?

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       Daniel Carterposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       I think PD's point is that the word "gay" was used against him as a weapon. Any word can be used as a weapon. There's no point in bringing weapons to a thread like this.

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          A Texanposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          I know it was used as a weapon, but how could something like the word gay effect anyone? This isn't directed specifically at Pearldiver just a question in general. If its ok to be gay then why is the word still used as a "weapon"? Why do those most vocal in their support of homosexuals use it as a "weapon"?

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          05Jamieposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          Pearldiver is the one who decided to bring weapons into this saying I lied all I have been in contact with him was when he left abuse on one of my forums So.....THAT INSPIRED THIS ONE THANKS !

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       Pearldiverposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       The Deal is quite simple.... I don't appreciate WuckFits sending BS emails to my Biz Email site.  A bit Gutless mate!  I'm Not Gay, nor was I out of line pointing out what I did to this Sock Puppet!

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       motricioposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Maybe they are crazy gays?

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    Cagsilposted 14 years ago

    This thread?

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    Bill Manningposted 14 years ago

    I read all cap words as shouting, and yes that does annoy me. If I see even a full sentence in all caps I don't bother to read it. Most people understand this and don't use all caps.

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       Patty Inglish, MSposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       I can't read all-caps, so I also ignore same. lol

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    Denno66posted 14 years ago

    Attention all hubbers! I am now using the word Mustard as a weapon. That is all.

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       motricioposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Where can i get one?

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       WriteAngledposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       English or French mustard?

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          motricioposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          What would be the difference?

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             WriteAngledposted 14 years agoin reply to this

             All the difference in the world, Sir! French mustard is weak and soft, English mustard is for those who can take it.

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                motricioposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                I'd rather get an English mustard

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       BDazzlerposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Oh, YEAH?  Well Dijon on you!

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       mega1posted 14 years agoin reply to this

       fINE, be THat Way THen.  I will GIVE it a big TRY too! HEY! that hurt!  mister.

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       mega1posted 14 years agoin reply to this

       I was referring to denno's mustard threat - well, I thought it was funny!

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    StormRyderposted 14 years ago

    I don't get bent out of shape if someone uses caps. It does look a bit silly or improper in most cases.
    As for the "gay' thing.. Many young people today are using the word gay to describe something they think is stupid or a waste of time etc... ie: "That movie was so gay" or "How gay is it they want me to work over-time" So you see the context of the gay term may have been mistaken. He may just think you were rude or being stupid?? I'm not sure??

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    motricioposted 14 years ago

    I'M OFFENDED WITH THIS THREAD!
    
    

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       Patty Inglish, MSposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       What? My eyes can't hear you.

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    motricioposted 14 years ago

    mmmm ok ,

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    yenajeonposted 14 years ago

    hmm this is just a tidbit:
    Architects write in all caps. no matter what. Its just whats 'professional' in the architecture world I guess!
    
    Personally: Don't like the all caps. In academia, its a no-no!

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    05Jamieposted 14 years ago

    Why would someone lie about an e-mail ....maybe because they were pathetic and wrote abuse I dont understand why you would make a claim like that ! I dont apperciate lies !

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       Uninvited Writerposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Really? I don't like liars either.
       
       http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/35109?page=3#post785748

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    05Jamieposted 14 years ago

    And you seem to be very self concious about your sexuality I did not even mention it !? keep it up cheif !

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    tantrumposted 14 years ago

    WHAT'S THE PROBLEM WITH CAPS  ?
    
    Sometimes is good to shout.
    
    AND  I DON'T LIKE THE TONE YOU USE TO ADDRESS PD  !

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    05Jamieposted 14 years ago

    Why ?

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       tantrumposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       BECAUSE I CHOOSE TO.
       BECAUSE I'M IN THE MOOD.
       JUST BECAUSE
       
       
       

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    05Jamieposted 14 years ago

    Just because possibly the worlds best answer haha i love it !

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    Crazdwriterposted 14 years ago

    I accidently hit the caps when I go for the 'a' at time and don't notices until it's too late OOOPS my bad hehehe
    
    hey welcome to hubpages 05Jamie

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    05Jamieposted 14 years ago

    Thanks a lot hope you were entertained by the forum !

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    05Jamieposted 14 years ago

    So I think we have just about established that 99% of people with lives would not go out of our way to put smart comments at someone using caps !!!!!!

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    darksideposted 14 years ago

    How IDIOTIC is it when people use UPPERCASE to try and get their point across?
    
    And by that I mean complete sentences. Or for an entire post. Or a whole hub.
    
    I admin a digg-like site for lenses and it says in the submission rules not to have uppercase for headline yet some people still do, despite the warning.
    
    So people who overuse uppercase tend to not read, understand, care or comply.

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    tantrumposted 14 years ago

    SO TRUE  !!
    

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       cheaptrickposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       HI TANTRUM,
       YOU SURE ARE FULL OF "P"AND "VINIGER" TO NIGHT!
       love ya lol

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    NewYorkerposted 14 years ago

    Only you people could talk this much about CAPS LOCK!!
    
    I'm serious.

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    motricioposted 14 years ago

    Namtekoto!

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    lakeerieartistsposted 14 years ago

    I have to admit that I am one of the people who is offended by capital letters in print especially online.

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    Nelle Hoxieposted 14 years ago

    If the entire topic title is in captitals, I never read any further. In my mind it implies either a lack of consideration, a lack of self-control, an oversized ego, or an inability to speak coherently and convincingly in an accepted manner.
    
    I'm not offended by it, I have no interest in peoples' thoughts who write this way.

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    rebekahELLEposted 14 years ago

    the online community is another form of communication and with any communication there are basic rules of etiquette to learn and follow. if you know better and shout to be heard, it's nothing worth hearing.  if you don't know, then now you do.
    
    when I first started writing online, I asked my oldest son to read the entry, and he called me immediately and said, ' mom, I can't read it, you have it in bold type, it's a huge faux paus, go in and change it asap.' so I did, but I didn't know the 'rules' and then found a site which talked about online writing etiquette.

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    mega1posted 14 years ago

    HEY!  Can we discuss the excessive use of exclamation marks?  because I do that!  I like to exclaim!  way toooooo much!  and also, how about adding letters as in waaaaaaaaaaay BAD!!

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       drej2522posted 14 years agoin reply to this

       I like to do it to, mega!!! Toooooooo bad if people don't like it.

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    whiteorchidsposted 14 years ago

    To answer your question after reading your response Jamie05, yes I am OFFENDED!

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       AEvansposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       I concur sis!

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    lorlie6posted 14 years ago

    This topic is dear to my heart, I suppose you'd say.  I 'friended' a guy on Facebook that I knew 30 years ago who was pretty much a loudmouthed arse back then.
    I was not surprised to see that he now writes in all caps. 
    It's hysterical-to me!

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