What is a Troll and how does banning work

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china manposted 15 years ago
There are some irritating entities in the forums who seem to get into good threads trying to start pointless arguments with pointless questions or are just plain rude for no reason. I have seen reference to trolls and sock puppets - I think I have got troll but can someone explain it all for me.

Also what happens when someone gets banned, can they get back here etc etc.

How and where do you report abuse if you think it is happening?
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  Patty Inglish, MSposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  You can write to team@hubpages.com for help and clarification.
  
  In addition, trolls sometimes post negative comments on Hub comments sections with a spam link atttached to their screen names in order to pull traffic to their own sites. Trolling takes a lot of forms, some for money I think! lol
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  kerrygposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  I'm not sure whether they ban by email, IP address or what around here, but either one is easy to get around for someone who knows what they're doing. It's up to the community to alert the moderators when something inappropriate or fishy is going on.
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  cosetteposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  
  trolls and sockpuppets are the scourge of the internet. obviously banning doesn't work. they are very clever and unfortunately, technically adept. they are just a fact of life in virtual worlds. you can ignore them, or report them. sometimes i deal with them, but you have to pick your battles because when it's all said and done, they're not worth the aggravation.
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  B.C. BOUTIQUEposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  a troll is someone who simply signs up for no purpose than to irritate others, destroy their work ( if possible ) and to spread spam and possibly viruses..
  Simply hit that report button if you see them on forums, if not, please e-mail the Hubpages team to report their misconduct.
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kirstenblogposted 15 years ago
Sounds like you could use some anti-troll cream!

Me I only got some snake oil for sale just now, a real effective cure all
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  china manposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  No special irritants for me - but a few around I think - and I am new enough not to know anything !
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  EmpressFelicityposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Dunno about cream, but you can get some spray:
  
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skyfireposted 15 years ago
I've seen many people chasing other members and making personal remarks to them,in my view that is also qualified for trolling.
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lyricsingrayposted 15 years ago
I hope this helps, and I will only speak for me as I will not judge or call out others.

I just recently was called a forum Troll, meaning I would (TERM) Hijack threads. That I was continually posting messages that had nothing to do with the topic of that thread and irritated many people.

I have been banned, but I will tell you, deservingly so. I repeatedly went after another hubber with a personal attack, not cool. The details causing me to do this are irrelevant. Anyways I was banned for three days-meaning you can not post and yes, when it is lifted HP staff let you know and you may return. First ban 3 days, second 7 days, third, 30 days, 4th for ever. But I just saw one person get to come back and their ban was lifted. So it depends on the individual, their motives, if any and disruption to other hubbers trying to have a conversation.

I hope that helps some and Patty actually put it in much clearer,shorter way ha

btw welcome china man, glad your here
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  china manposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Hard to imagine anyone objecting to you dropping in - you are welcome to drop in on me, any thread - any time!
  
  thanks for that, can you enlighten me - what is a sock puppet ? and are there any other scary things lurking behind the avatars and between the words hat I should be aware of?
  
  Thanks for that Tex - I find it hard to believe that with your moderate and gentle opinions you would be even likely to get banned.
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  A Texanposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Thats what I was thinking.
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  lyricsingrayposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  no, its for real, a whole clang do no appreciate my behavior here, so immediately, i cleaned up my act, changed my address and deodorant, got new plates on my car, ate a huge lunch and came here golfing, all the same. fuck me man where's the recess monitor, these are dangerous grounds and someone could fall off the monkey bar i tell ya.
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  A Texanposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Some people's kids!
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  lyricsingrayposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  
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  lyricsingrayposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Thanks hon, but there is a group that do oh well cest tu.
  
  Now sock puppets, and hopefully someone will confirm or correct me on this, are also known as alter-ego's, other identities people create to write under a different name, maybe even for the privacy or writing a different style. I am not afraid to tell you I gave 3 alter ego-s all which are a very different part of me. I do enjoy the privacy and non-judgmental opinions they give me.
  
  china I hope Im right about sock puppets being alter egos. someone will clarify either way
  
  and china, you can drop in on me anytime too, thank you
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  sunforgedposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  an alter-ego can be used as a sock puppet, but only becomes one through how it is used.
  
  An alter ego that exists solely to write or even to project another side of ones personality is still just an alter-ego
  
  Its not a sock puppet until it is used to manipulate conversations with the help of another profile that you also control
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  lyricsingrayposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  thanks helps tons
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  rebekahELLEposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  and these sock puppets often have conversations with themselves, meaning one person is talking to himself, or arguing, flirting with himself! it's quite easy to spot as you will often see them following each other into threads.
  
  trolls, just don't feed them, they hate being ignored.
  
  their motivation? they have a really sad existence, most live under bridges...
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  china manposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  flirting and following each other around - I thought that was Lyricsingray and Hokey !! But then half the faces on here seem to be flirting with Hokey and not all female I think !!!
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  lyricsingrayposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  No it was me most likely, I refuse to be serious and Hokey is a friend. Others may not know details behind my actions, but I know I will not be singled out any longer and asked them to be justified
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  mega1posted 15 years agoin reply to this
  awww, now you're really trying to ruin our fun!
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  lyricsingrayposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  not ruin just have some
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  mega1posted 15 years agoin reply to this
  but if we can't single you out . . .
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  lyricsingrayposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  oh, but you can, you can
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  skyfireposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Can we end this grave-digging ? I think we had enough of that already. Let's talk about in general instead of relating it with old issues.
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  mega1posted 15 years agoin reply to this
  are you saying, what I think you're saying? be serious?
  
  well, ok, but how much is there to really say about those crazy little buggers, trolls et le sock puppettes?
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  skyfireposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Lot to say about them. Some people did mistake out of fun, some did that just out of their personality and those people learned here not to repeat this again(so far so good). But there are many out there still and we can still find out a lot of about those buggers. More we know less we know.
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  mega1posted 15 years agoin reply to this
  but didn't you just say a little while ago that you enjoy watching people harass each other? So you don't really want to eliminate their butts do ya?
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  skyfireposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  No. Freedom of speech till they hit the limit of libel. Till then any 3rd person can see through them.
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  china manposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  It can be easy to make the first mistake when funny things pop to mind when answering or somebody says something that just invites a humorous response - problem is you don't always know whether you are among friends or what. You can't see if an avatar has a teenie weeny - or super-fragile ego, or is a kid even ??
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  mega1posted 15 years agoin reply to this
  that only makes it more interesting! - challenging sometimes, but interesting. I regret that many do not know how, or are afraid to make a direct response without being offensive in one way or another. But I really have a huge aversion to the Miss Manners approach to interaction in the threads - its complicated.
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  skyfireposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Yes i agree.
  
  And My point is do you want to see each profile hitting the point of teeny-weeny ? Just keep on reading responses, it's easy to find that out who is running on line of sarcasm, offense, fun, argument, inquiry etc. If we start finding fault in every member posts we might end up being paranoid, there are just patterns we can see on forums that will help to find out those people.
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  mega1posted 15 years agoin reply to this
  ok. so. now. we find these people and then . . .
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  skyfireposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  if they hit limit push the button.
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  china manposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  I have just come back from that nice 'crazy' thread - apparently we are mostly all paranoid at best !
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  skyfireposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  sock puppet doesn't have to be alter egos or anonymous account. Many hubber here have anonymous name including me. Sock puppet motives/definition is quite cleared here in this thread by sunforged. Alter-egos is not got into trolling then they hardly qualify for sock puppets.
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  lyricsingrayposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  skyfire thank you
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A Texanposted 15 years ago
I consider myself quite the expert on being banned, usually a personal attack will get you banned. What is a personal attack? I have no clue, but rest assured the hubpages staff know!
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  lyricsingrayposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  OKAY that picture Tex is totally doing it for me, fuck is that hot. whew.
  
  Was that a personal attack?
  
  If so its worth the ban hub-iliscious baby
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sunforgedposted 15 years ago
Trolls like to spread dissent, disagree, insult, annoy and commit general malfeasance solely for the sake of the attention or causing waves.

This is usually a direct result of shortcomings in the sexual organ area or a failure to connect with humanity in the "real" world.

Trolls should be pitied but they are best ignored as they quickly self destruct when no notice is made of them.
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  china manposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  thanks - I know how to recognise them now - they have teeny weenies
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  Rishy Richposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  I bet they do
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  SirDentposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  This is all true but not all there is to it. Most do it just to make fun of the replies they get. They do it for lulz, which is for laughs. They will purposely post soemthing to provoke a certain response and laught about it along with all their buddies.
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  sunforgedposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  I wouldnt give those who dont have evil intent the moniker of "troll" maybe they can be 'grumpy smurfs" or "jokers"?...trolls are evil gnarled things that never have good motives
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zampanoposted 15 years ago
I remember participating in some thread hijacks and it was lots of fun.
Some threads really deserve hijacking, when you have nothing better to spend 5 minutes on.
Sometimes, the subject and/or replies are so dumb, you can but have a good laugh about, as if they were started only for that purpose.
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  lyricsingrayposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  amen
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  china manposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Hijacking is a little different I would guess - and pretty harmless as it does not attack anyone. Some of the funniest stuff I have read here had nothing to do with the thread posted.
  
  thanks sunforged that's pretty clear now.
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  Sufidreamerposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  'Tis true - sometimes threads are prime for hijacking, usually the really blatant spam or sockpuppet ones.
  
  Some threads meander - you might get a few folks going at it hammer and tongs in the religion or politics sections. Eventually, things calm down and the thread calms down into a nice chat about random things. Of course, the next shift arrives and the gladiatorial battles recommence.
  
  That's why I like the HP forums - they often have a nice 'ebb and flow.'
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  Obscurely Diverseposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Yeah, but people shouldn't mistake 'opinionated ones' as trolls, as there is a big difference. I've wondered this before, as I occasionally have a fetish for contesting individuals for their true opinion on matters, but, at times, it gets mistaken for being "trollish" of some sorts and if that was an actual word, I could understand this feverish fear of trolls. LOL!
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  mega1posted 15 years agoin reply to this
  some of us just have a lot of extra time! and I say this with love!
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  Obscurely Diverseposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  I work a full-time job, recreate (too much), fornicate when it is possible, and I still find time for the internet and this lovely site, since it is always live via my room! Fun-fun! Ha-ha!
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  china manposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Not really - you are clearly doing what you do and that is ok because you have the right to say what you like. stretching an argument to breaking point requires the opposition to stay and willingly argue with you. And just because I am being nice to you doesn;t mean I think your girlfriend in your pic isn't still ugly as **ck !
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  Obscurely Diverseposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Ugly? You wanna bet? She is just shy and doesn't like being exposed to freaks online. I'm still ugly, though. I admit that, ha-ha! Thanks, China Man! You're such a nice guy...
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  Obscurely Diverseposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  By the way, feel free to show your attractive mug anytime you get ready, China girl-man. Some of us would like to have a look-see, LOL!
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  Deborah Sextonposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  You are so right.
  In my profile I state that I am blunt and honest but I'm never against people..just ideologies.
  If someone attacks me, they can count on me being that blunt person. That doesn't make me anything else.
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sunforgedposted 15 years ago
one definition of a sock puppet

An alternate character/profile/avatar used by one in order to create false support for an idea or statement.

Sock Puppets are frequently used by Marketers- One account will open a thread with a question.

Than another account usually brand new or lacking post history will arrive and post the answer with a link or suggestion they will make money from.

Occasionally the two accounts will talk back and forth in order to stay on top with the other fresh threads

here at hubpages, the term is often used to describe those who change their account in order to insult and or troll against others in the forum ..but that in fact is more accurately described as being "two-faced" or in schoolyard slang "a spineless pussy"
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  Deborah Sextonposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Now I understand. I had someone call me a sock puppet and called me someone like TK. I have one identity..me Deborah and have no other accounts. It is really irritating when someone says you are not who you really are and vice versa.
  I am not the type to hide my identity so that I can say something. If I have something to say..I say it.
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  mega1posted 15 years agoin reply to this
  but are you a marketer? I don't think you are, but if you are, it would be nice to know - I know a couple other people in the forums are marketers - and I still don't understand how harassing people on the threads would help market anything, but I have a lot to learn!
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  Deborah Sextonposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  No I'm not a marketer. This person came in and starting making fun of what I said. When I stood up for myself she said I was rude and that I was a sock puppet and my other self was someone named TK.
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  mega1posted 15 years agoin reply to this
  ahh - TKsensei - see the recent thread "Hello from Pam Grundy" it's just fascinating (not)
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  Deborah Sextonposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Thank you, I will read it.
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  skyfireposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Man, Deborah you take that comment way too seriously.
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  mega1posted 15 years agoin reply to this
  I don't actually care much about the sockpoopers and the trollbuggers, or how to combat, etc. but I keep finding myself sucked into these constant threads about them! Is this, or is it not, a prime example of mind-control attempts - and don't say I'm just paranoid! even tho this is possible. From other of your posts online, Deb, I see that you are interested in this very subject, which could make me paranoid, but I won't allow that to happen. today. anymore.
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  Deborah Sextonposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Excuse me?
  There have been times when people followed me from thread to thread..am I not allowed to stand up for myself? Would you for yourself? YES
  
  I was having a conversation here, than you start talking about how you are paranoid. How is someone suppose to react?
  
  I guess I need to limit my time on the forums.
  
  I would hate for us all to be alike. Variety makes life more interesting..
  
  I didn't find anything on that thread about TK anyway..just others talking about him/her.
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  Sufidreamerposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  I remember that thread and that was probably my fault - the comment was aimed elsewhere. I can only assume that I messed up with the quote/reply thing - I still haven't got the hang of that.
  
  Apologies to all concerned for any offence caused by incompetence.
  
  I have never doubted that you are who you say you are
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  Deborah Sextonposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Not a problem. I never blamed you.
  
  you Kukla (kidding)
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  china manposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  good point - how can it help anyone market anything to harass in a forum?
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  sunforgedposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  I guess the two distinct uses of "sock puppets" are being confused a bit.
  
  The marketing example (very common in Yahoo Answers)
  
  New Thread:
  
  Why cant I get these coffee stains out of my teeth ?
  
  originalPoster:
  
  OMG! I have to go to the Prom tomorrow and I was like up all night drinking coffee for my midterms and now I cant get the coffee brown off my teeth ..yuk..Help!
  
  Realperson1
  
  Did you try brushing your teeth?
  
  realperson2
  
  try baking soda!
  
  SockPuppetmarketer
  
  Try This tooth whitening system I used it for my wedding and my teeth were gleeming white (*Affiliate link or link to affiliate site*)
  
  Sock Puppet/ Harrassment/attention method
  
  new thread:
  
  god is dead
  
  OP: how dare they say god is dead!
  
  *crickets chirp*..no responses
  
  OP's sock puppet:(with the bump)
  
  like really what were they thinking? of course god isnt dead
  
  OP:
  
  Your so right
  
  Sock puppet:
  
  And your right to
  
  Realperson1:
  
  i disagree, god is dead, obviously!
  
  OP:
  
  Your an idiot
  
  Sockpuppet:
  
  i second that, your an idiot
  
  .................and it continues
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  skyfireposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Reminds me of those Q & A on Yahoo Answers taken over by some affiliate marketers.
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  china manposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Don't stop - it was just like punch and judy and I was just getting the storyline !
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mega1posted 15 years ago
Are sock puppets and trolls motivated by evil?
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  Denno66posted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Nah, just misguided is all.
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  lyricsingrayposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  or hungry is all
  
  Hey Mega and Denno, miss you two
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  mega1posted 15 years agoin reply to this
  I only spent one day away! but it is nice to be missed!
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  Denno66posted 15 years agoin reply to this
  I miss you all, too. School and moving both are eating up all of my free time. Ack!
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  china manposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  This would be hijacking then ?
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  Denno66posted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Nah, I don't carry weapons.
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  mega1posted 15 years agoin reply to this
  oh. that's good! cuz the other night I got real paranoid in the "Hello fromn Pam Grundy" thread and began to think that the forums were being manipulated by some kinda 4th Power Block!
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  Denno66posted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Well, that could very well be. But, they(the Trolls) do offer great amusement nonetheless.
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  skyfireposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Agree. Offending troll is the best one to have for afternoon break.
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  skyfireposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Here is my theory:
  
  - Taking out frustration
  - Defending some belief/thoughts
  - Have some grudge on person based on their thoughts
  - Less rational thinking
  - Despair
  
  this is what leads to trolling IMO, nothing to do with evil and all. Troll for one could be friend or messiah for another.
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  mega1posted 15 years agoin reply to this
  WOW! that is real astute!
  
  I myself have literally seen red a couple times when someone made a nasty remark directed at me - and then I realized - teeny eeny weeny syndrome!
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Laura du Toitposted 15 years ago
Hi Denno66 - miss you on the forums

As for the trolls - I agree that they are best ignored - without a
participating audience that get worked up and retaliate there is not much point or fun in trolling.
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  Obscurely Diverseposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  A good indicator that I've noticed thus far, is that the forum trolls often have an enormous amount of forum posts with barely any, if any, hubs produced with words. I've seen some, that only do 'picture posts' for hubs and spend the rest of their time preying on the weak. I haven't had any trouble with the so-called "trolls" yet, but maybe it is because they think I am, ha-ha! Fight fire with fire, as the ol' adage states.
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china manposted 15 years ago
Can I complain if I have never been hijacked or socked by a puppet or approached by a strange person with a teenie weeny ? I kinda feel left out now kinda - you know - - boring

Maybe I can go and get banned ???
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  mega1posted 15 years agoin reply to this
  welllll, I'm a little outa practice, but I could give it a try, with your permission ? ???
  
  that is I could try to "sock" you or give you a good troll!
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  china manposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  But I would have to personally attack you, or sock you or something wouldn't I ?
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mega1posted 15 years ago
I'm wondering now (possibly thinking, but that's debateable) if the original forum question has been answered, will it then be permissable to greet each other and talk about >>>>>> NO? ok, then, well banning works not so good, because some people just never learn!
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china manposted 15 years ago
or maybe I could bump ?
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china manposted 15 years ago
A few times
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mega1posted 15 years ago
no, if I am a real sock puppet or troll I will either be doing it for the hell of it or I would be paid for some reason to invade and control the whole shebang in order to promote some other site etc etc etc - BORING! isn't it? On the other hand . . .
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  Denno66posted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Yes?
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  lyricsingrayposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  pee.
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  Denno66posted 15 years agoin reply to this
  poop.
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  mega1posted 15 years agoin reply to this
  hijacker
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  Denno66posted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Giggity.
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  lyricsingrayposted 15 years agoin reply to this
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  mega1posted 15 years agoin reply to this
  am I getting any knowledge or fun out of this forum hovering today?
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  Denno66posted 15 years agoin reply to this
  I dunno, I didn't read the Memo this morning. Should we be?
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  mega1posted 15 years agoin reply to this
  there was a Memo?
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  Denno66posted 15 years agoin reply to this
  I think so, there was no TP in my stall this morning, so......(shrugs)
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  mega1posted 15 years agoin reply to this
  you're hired!
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  Denno66posted 15 years agoin reply to this
  I love this job! I really really do!
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zampanoposted 15 years ago
Hi Denno.
You know I've been avoiding eating lamb since I've known you and that avatar ?
I missed you, but your absence gave me an opportunity to have a nice leg o'lamb last sunday.
I'll stop now that you're back, but I'll check your presence here regularly.
hehehe
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  Denno66posted 15 years agoin reply to this
  You both scare me and embolden me at the same time, my friend.
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zampanoposted 15 years ago
Between a thread and a threat the difference is extreme...
at the right extreme, to be precise.
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lyricsingrayposted 15 years ago
Bye everybody gotta leave for another few days, unexpected, see you whenever though, cheers
Kimberly
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  mega1posted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Cheers! Kimberly - have a nice vacation, or whatever!
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  china manposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Bye - thanks for your input and the hijacking etc
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  lyricsingrayposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  WTF? I thankfully don't have time
  
  Bye Mega and Sky, be well.
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  china manposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  that was a joke ! ! ! don't go off thinking bad things by accident - especially about me
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cheaptrickposted 15 years ago
We Trolls take Offence to being called Trolls!
I personally prefer Ogre,it's so much more descriptive and makes for a Great Visual...
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WriteAngledposted 15 years ago
I've set up a second ID here today. The reason is because I want to try some very sales-oriented hubs, but want to keep these separate from my regular input (small enough as that may be). When I signed up the second time, the email address I used initially for HP was rejected and I had to use another. So, my question is, does HP staff monitor multiple IDs, sockpuppets, etc? I did register my Adsense and Amazon account details, so presumably am trackable through those. If someone doesn't, what is the situation?
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  china manposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  I doubt it is worth anyone's time to keep track of them to be honest.
  
  Anyway if you live in Treorci you deserve as many ID and names as you like in my book. I lived 5 or 6 years in New Quay just below Aberystwyth and was close to major depression like everyone else there !!
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  WriteAngledposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Awww, I used to visit New Quay and Aberaeron regularly. I like both places! They're far less rainy than the Rhondda, and I love the Rhondda too. Moved here by choice two years ago
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  mega1posted 15 years agoin reply to this
  It is very illuminating to google your different web identities -if they are at all linkable by similar info you've used when setting them up, you will see that anyone can find out what your different identities are. If it matters to you, then of course you have to jump through some more hoops to make yourself "invisible". I hate all this maneuvering to "market" or having anything to hide, so it is very easy to find out who I am for real online and offline. But I am interested in knowing what kind of minds actually do this stuff - sockpuppeting and trolling. It is a bit of a waste of time though.
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  WriteAngledposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  It's not so much having things to hide. I just didn't want to dilute my main identity with loads of product reviews, etc.
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  china manposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  You are only doing it for particular reasons - from this discussion sock puppets and trolls are doing it to deliberately bump up some marketting numbers - that is not what you are doing I think
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  Deborah Sextonposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  You're not the type to have any reason to hide. You are always very nice. I think in Sufi's post it explains very well why people would want two IDs
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  Obscurely Diverseposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  What is "sock puppeting" as i want to hear it from 'mega1's mouth because I've never heard of this before. I've heard of the infamous troll crap, but not the other. I'm behind on new-gen jargon, so please enlighten me because I obviously need to be on the look-out for these "sock" people...
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skyfireposted 15 years ago
I didn't understand the reason to have separate ID for commercial hubs. makes any difference ?
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  Sufidreamerposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  I can sometimes - if, for example, I wrote some personal Hubs about creationism/politics/insert controversial topic of choice, I may put off potential clients who do not share my beliefs. A commercial account would create a separation.
  
  I haven't done that, but it is certainly a possibility
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  skyfireposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Good point.
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easybusinesslinksposted 15 years ago
A troll is a creature that lives under a bridge and jumps out when 3 goats try to cross over the bridge!
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Ohmaposted 15 years ago
I have encountered a few trolls and while mostly I just ignore them they can sometimes be very irritating, But I think that must be a right of passage into the troll kingdom.
I have never been refered to as a troll that I am aware of, but it was stated by someone here that they thought I was a Demon.
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  Obscurely Diverseposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  So what? What do people actually troll for; ain't it all jovial play? Ha-ha! I think they better some people, in a way. Hell, I wished I had trolls frequent me any day and I've tried to the extent of going after known trolls and still had no luck! They won't mess with me since I want them to, ha-ha! In a way, I think they think I'm also one of their clan! Come on, trollies......I'm ready, you pathetic little bastards!
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  sneakorocksolidposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Thats a nice picture of you and your Mum!
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  Obscurely Diverseposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Thanks; I know I'm handsome; but, I can't help that she is camera shy...I'll ask her one more time, for a doggy-style pic but I doubt if she'll comply! Mr. Arse...
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  sneakorocksolidposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  I thought I'd get my troll on!
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  Obscurely Diverseposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  ...Me too, a person has to bounce, ya know...as it is good for the equilibrium!
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  china manposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  It isn't jovial play though is it - it is irritating as hell to have some juvenile moron asking moronic questions in a place where we often take time to think and writing a considered answer to find in fact there is no-one listening - it is all about just getting a response.
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  Obscurely Diverseposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  That's exactly why I'm an 'imbecilic repellent'...even to the so-called experienced ones like yourself, ha!
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  Obscurely Diverseposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Idiot!
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  Obscurely Diverseposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Moronic imbecile & doltish bastard with a fetish for retardation! How's that? Do you like me now, fool?
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  Obscurely Diverseposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  LOL! Ha-ha!
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  china manposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  You know I mean the trolls - You are all the above, but you are ours and we couldn't do without you.
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  Obscurely Diverseposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  For the first time, you actually lost me on this one, Huh???
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  Obscurely Diverseposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Okay, go fu*k yourself? Ha-ha?!!! How's that for grammatical corrections, Mr. English Teacher? Teach me some fu*kin' Chinese in the name of profanity, while you're at it! Please?
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  Obscurely Diverseposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  I'm starting to like this China tough-stuff language. Thanks, dude. Yeah, I got the jest of your joke. These forums are good for info, turmoil, anger, and fun... Even though, they are not very productive. Ha-ha!
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  china manposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Sorry I popped out for 30 minutes to cook and eat dinner and photograph the stages and then write up the process for a recipe.
  
  Where were we?
  
  Chinese profanities. The reason they love ours so much is that they really don't have any being deeply cultured and with politeness at the centre of their traditional thinking. This means, unfortunately for us, that even the poorest field worker has better manners than most western people could even imagine, let alone aspire to.
  
  A typical rude remark to someone is talking, what we would economically call, BS would be -
  "fang ni de go pi" which literally translates -
  "you are talking dog farts."
  
  Because they do not have our cuss words, especially the foul variety my girlfriend loves to learn them. When they come out of the mouth of a pretty Chinese girl as a foreign language they lose most of their offensive nature. BUT having explained to her that in the UK we call thigh high boots FMB's - and one of her yoga positions I also call FMB - she loudly announced in the shoe shop where we were helping a rather naive christian young 'lady' - look there are some f**k me from behind boots !!
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  Sab Ohposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Who told you there weren't any profanities in Chinese?! There are many and quite colorful ones. No disrespect intended, but you may be living as something of the sheltered waiguoren there. Curses don't often directly translate between languages, but Chinese can cuss each other out with the best of them. (let's face it, everyone everywhere can)
  
  Don't get me started on "politeness"...
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  china manposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Hi - how long did you spend in China ?
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  Sab Ohposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Two years and change
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  china manposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Teaching here ? where ? I am thinking of moving on to another city next year and would like to avoid wherever you got your view of China, it is like nothing I have ever seen here.
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  Mark Knowlesposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Sab oh is actually a troll. It used to be here under the name TK Sensei but was banned. If you want to see an expert troll in action, just look through a few of its last posts.
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  TamCorposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  If Sab Oh really is TKSensei, then all I can say is:
  
  WELCOME BACK!
  
  Tammy
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  Sab Ohposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  I spent time in Shaanxi, Kunming, and Sichuan teaching at universities.
  
  I don't think it's a matter of where you live but how you live that will expose you to various aspects of a place.
  
  Don't get me wrong, my view of China is positive and affectionate. I am very fond of China and extremely fond of her people, but I have to be honest, don't I?
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alexandriaruthkposted 15 years ago
hmm interesting
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alexandriaruthkposted 15 years ago
I am a Filipino American and when I get angry I swear in my native language not in English LOL, when I swear the American way its funny really!
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  china manposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  yes - doesn't have the same venom in it as the native snake does it
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  alexandriaruthkposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  yes it is LOL< it is really funny when I curse the American way, it means am not at all angry yet, but when I curse my native language, it means I am now really angry hehe
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  china manposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  I am now having to stop her using profanities at any time as joke - we are going to my daughters wedding in June in the UK!
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  alexandriaruthkposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  nice one, good for her....! Best wishes to your daughter, is this her first time to go there??
  
  I also joke about profanities at times, but it is weird really, I dont take it seriously anyway..
  
  even if some say bad words to me, in American way, I am not hurt because I cant see the real menaing of it maybe
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  china manposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  I am English and my daughter is in UK - but it will be the first time for my partner to go there
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  alexandriaruthkposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  oh ok, good luck to you and best wishes for your daughter, visit Philippines with your gf if you can, go to beaches after spring...I know you are enjoying China--
  
  I am going to cook now, thank you for your time and good day
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  cosetteposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  my father used to swear in Spanish. you would think i would have picked up some good Spanish swear words but alas...
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  IzzyMposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  My man swears like a trooper as a matter of course! A lot of the Spanish do, I even hear swear words on TV all the time. They are mostly less offensive than the English equivalent.
  The again, Mexican Spanish use different swear words to the Spanish.
  eg - the Mexicans use hijo de perra (son of a bitch) and the Spanish use 'hija de puta' which is literaly daughter of a whore. You hear that expresson A LOT, but never hear 'hijo de perra' here.
  Anyway, back to the subject of trolls and sock-puppets...
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  alexandriaruthkposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  I am back
  
  thats good for you Ms cosette, since the Spaniards colonized the Philippines for almost four centuries,
  we still learn spanish in college..
  I know also lots of Spanish profanities, , they're cute hehe
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  cosetteposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  
  oOo, tell! (you can email me if you want
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cosetteposted 15 years ago

you know i thought his writing style looked familar.

i notice many other "new" people who read just like other familiar posters. *tsk* can't hide no matter how hard they try...
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cosetteposted 15 years ago
haha the Spanish word for "dog" i do remember!
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lyricsingrayposted 15 years ago
the only other language aside from English I can swear/curse in is Sign Language and this hasn't been very effective here so far :
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lyricsingrayposted 15 years ago
hey BC
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