When is Cagsil coming back?
I am back and greatly appreciate all kind words, and support while I was banned.
As for the ban? I know it was a personal attack, but not on single staff member, as proven to me, the post that brought the banning of me from the forums.
Jason said I would learn what post it was at the end of my ban, yet I only know that it was for a personal attack. How true that is? Still remains to be seen.
But, thank you everyone.
i always thought it best to learn from mistakes
so if they dont tell you where you were mistaken , how can you reflect upon it and surely this reflection would bebetter undertaken during the ban
Just a thought
anyway glad you are back- its been a bit dull- just the odd megamouth in cuckoo land opining all over the place!
smileyI didn't say that.
I said that when you're banned from the forums, you'll see which thread incurred the ban and when your forum rights will be reinstated.
As I've said before, all you have to do to avoid getting banned is refrain from personal attacks. And if you've been banned for personal attacks several times, then you should really take extra care to learn from those experiences.
But welcome back.Aww Cags..you toughed it out and all the ladies feel sorry for ya
Least you have not been called mentally deranged as I was
And, I am humbled by them and honored at the same time.
I haven't met anyone in my life, who would ever call me that. I have been called an a$$hole a few times. And, just recently. However, I do know he was banned for his offense and also lost his account for the email he sent me. And, I am sure he could have even lost his second account, because of the exact same action, which apparently shows that he doesn't listen or refuses to learn.
There are plenty of people who could legally fit into the mentally deranged category, but the only people actually allowed to tell anyone that is a bunch of medical doctors. Any one else saying it, is just opinion.I've been called Beezebub
by a very prominent writer who I did not agree with
Yes, I would agree with the moderation team that that was a personal attack. Name-calling (calling someone "clueless") would qualify.
It's not about bias, or saying something you find objectionable or that you disagree with. It's about making a personal (ad hominem) attack, which we do not allow.
That's all I'll say about the matter.<grins> I think she meant that for Jason.. Besides, I wouldn't want to have that authority, I get a bit trigger happy sometimes.
Cardisa, I don't know if it was a personal attack against Cagsil, but rather, a mistake in judgement. At least, I hope that's the case. I have a lot of respect for HP, what they've done, and what they've helped people do. Overall, I think they do a good job, but occasionally things like this happen.
The definition of clueless is, "Totally uninformed about what is going on; not having even a clue from which to infer what is occurring."
Common misconception: Gratuitous verbal abuse or "name-calling" itself is not an ad hominem or a logical fallacy.
In order to become a fallacy, the insult would need to given as a reason for believing some conclusion, for example, "X is idiotically ignorant [of politics], so why should we listen to him now?" ~~wiki
Glad you're back Cagsil! Missed you!
- Home Girlposted 13 years ago
0Intrigues, intrigues... who's next?
I am so biting my tongue right now to keep from saying something very stupid. Sorry you got banned. Glad you're back.
- Home Girlposted 13 years ago0
- Home Girlposted 13 years ago0
I am glad they let you go,Cagsil.
- Stevennix2001posted 13 years ago0
It's actually based on subjective nature of "what is an insult?" to begin with. But, since I really don't want to go down that road, unless I have to, I'm just going to drop it.
It is what it is. The future of HP is definitely going to be interesting to watch. That's for sure.
- EmpressFelicityposted 13 years ago0
- Home Girlposted 13 years ago0
All I can say is that there are things being said here as if they were fact but which are not true.
- Cagsil was not the only one banned in that thread.
- It did not take "days" to ban another attacker in the same thread.
- This is far from a new policy; we've been applying the same rules for years.
Our rules are our rules; we stick by them, even when people say we're too harsh or too lenient (and we hear both in equal measure). Again, if you want to avoid getting forum-banned, all you have to do is avoid making personal (ad hominem) attacks.No one is above the rules. Of course, we get blamed for impartiality all the time. Conservatives think we favor liberals, liberals think we favor conservatives, atheists think we favor the religious, the religious think we favor the atheists, and so on...
You couldnt pay me enough to do the job of a moderator, oh my gosh all the whining and 'he said' ,'she said'..
No,second thoughts let me be a moderator for one day-
Pwease, Pwease
Off to the dungeons and off with ya heads everyone who insults me PLUS Im keeping any earnings made during your 'time out'.Oh Cags get down off your high horse.
Its a public forum ,not YOUR forum
I was making light of the situation, perhaps you should too.
The rules and how they are administered belongs to the site ,thats the bottom line.
The thing is, Jason, that many here are quite confused as to what represents and constitutes a personal attack. Many here believe that by just criticizing their religious beliefs, we are attacking them personally.
Could you please explain what is and what isn't a personal attack based on your TOS? It would greatly help those who are confused and those who are sure they are being attacked but are obviously not.Thanks, IzzyM.
This is a silly argument. Calling someone any derogatory name at all gets you a forum ban. End of.
Cags knew the rules, and he broke them and was given time out, like everyone gets.
Welcome back Cags by the way, but you did deserve it.
- Valemanposted 13 years ago0
After what had been said to you in the comment prior to you responding with calling the perpetrator 'clueless' Cags, I am stunned you were banned and not given an accolade instead.
yes I have no doubt that you do
smiley
Welcome back Cagsil. Did you upset one of the religiously impaired?
Apparently abuse is a one way road.No religious folks were harmed in my post. Thank you though Earnest. Nice to see you.
Whew, thank God for that!
HAHAHA! Your humor has been missed!
Pooooor religious folk!Hey Laurel.
Nice to see you. I'm glad you found what I said humorous however it was true. I wasn't even talking to a religious person. My post was to DruidDude, who isn't religious, but is a mystic/spiritualist.
It appears that I didn't clarify enough in my post, when I replied to his post that day. Oh well, it happens from time to time, when I don't go to the extreme of explaining myself.
My guess? No, I don't think so.
Cool! Perhaps if it had had a Brazilian, it wouldn't have been deleted!
Glad you're back Cagsil..
Sorry you got banned..WB Cags.
While I wouldn't call that particular application of the rules draconian, it does seem tremendously rigorous given the actual offense. However, just goes to show why I prefer subtlety and, when necessary, sarcasm.Welcome back Cagsil. Be a good boy now (j/k)
- BRIAN SLATERposted 13 years ago0
nice to see you back
- Home Girlposted 13 years ago0
Oh, dear!
I would make some joke about me being clueless and all, but that just wouldn't be right. 
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