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   Venkatachari Mposted 3 weeks ago

   Hi, what are you, the editorial team, doing? Why are the statistics not being updated? Is everybody on sabbatical?

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      Kenna McHughposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

      It appears "everything" else is working. HP is withholding the overall page views and such to keep us from knowing how much we are truly or should be making.

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      Cheryl E Prestonposted 11 days agoin reply to this

      I'm getting views but being paid less. They could have at least let us know they were decreasing the CPK rate. I used to get 3 or 4 dollars daily, now I get under one dollar.

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      Cheryl E Prestonposted 11 days agoin reply to this

      They also are not responding to emails. This is not a good sign.

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         Springboardposted 3 days agoin reply to this

         This is the part that is always concerning and confusing to me. Whenever a site doesn't communicate to its members about what's going on, people tend to fill in the blanks on their own, and it's usually very negative. Then what the site generally has to do is damage control. It makes no sense. Just tell us what the problem is and what is being done about it.

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   mikec1978posted 2 weeks ago

   It looks like it. Although whilst the 'views' stats are frozen the earnings ones do appear to be updating.

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      bravewarriorposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

      Earnings updating? What difference does it make when the earnings are less than a penny a day? That's not an earning, it's a spit in the wind that comes back to slap your face.

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         CELEBSFAN78posted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

         I think this is very unusual. My Statistics haven't been updated in over two days. That shouldn't happen. And yes, the Earnings are now even less than they were before.

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   Venkatachari Mposted 2 weeks ago

   Now, I am sure that the HP Team is enjoying a sabbatical vacation.

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   CELEBSFAN78posted 2 weeks ago

   This is a very unusual situation. How long can it possibly take for them to update the statistics? It is just an update. It can't be that hard to do. It is good that we are discussing this. Maybe, they will realize that we writers need to see how our articles are performing.

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      bravewarriorposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

      To paraphrase the great Clark Gable, "Frankly, my dear, they don't give a damn!"

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      Kenna McHughposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

      Ara, TAG/HP have stopped listening to us some time ago.

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   CELEBSFAN78posted 2 weeks ago

   The other thing is that I'm considering transferring some of my articles to other websites. The compensation for writers on Hubpages has really declined. It is like you have to really promote the articles in order to get enough traffic to make a sizeable commission.

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   revmjmposted 2 weeks ago

   There is a notification on our page that says, "Includes data from 5 days ago and earlier." However, the earnings are updated every day.

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   Kenna McHughposted 2 weeks ago

   The earnings have been updated, but they are significantly lower compared to before the freeze.

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      theraggededgeposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

      Yep, they can pay as little as they like - hubbers have no idea if they can't see their stats.

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         Kenna McHughposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

         Yes. Unfortunately.

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      CYong74posted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

      I just checked mine, they aren't updated. Wouldn't be expecting any lovely surprises too.

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         Kenna McHughposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

         Yup. It's sadly true.

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            Venkatachari Mposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

            I doubt the earning figures appearing there. What if they are updating a single hour's earnings after a 24-hour gap?

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               Kenna McHughposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

               I wouldn't even try guessing. From what we know, it's worthless.

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               bravewarriorposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

               I have more money in my spare change bucket right now than I have in my HP account. I don't even know why I bother checking anymore.

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                  Venkatachari Mposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

                  Hi, that's a lovely asset. I used to have that kind of hobby, keeping two large pouches of coins. But that game ended with the onset of COVID and the introduction of digital payments.
                  
                  Now, we make payments through UPI apps only—no physical money.

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   CELEBSFAN78posted 2 weeks ago

   I'm still continuing to publish on Hubpages occasionally just because I enjoy the writing process. I like to think the editorial team will eventually update the statistics to show the current ones.

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      Kenna McHughposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

      Ara, we shall see, hopefully.

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      Matt Wellsposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

      We are working on it. Sorry for the delay.

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         bravewarriorposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

         Matt, since you're here now, please give us an honest update regarding the fate of HP and its writers. Things have taken a dismal turn and we're all concerned.

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         Cheryl E Prestonposted 3 days agoin reply to this

         Why have our CPMs dropped, and why is HP not responding to messages?

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      Kulsum Mehmoodposted 10 days agoin reply to this

      Same here. I am a senior citizen still I am continuing to publish on Hubpages because I like to write. Sincerly I do hope whatever problem the Hubpages team may be facing, it will be resolved speedily and we get to know how our posts are performing.

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   CELEBSFAN78posted 2 weeks ago

   They have to update the numbers eventually. That's just common sense. They work for Hubpages as editorial staff.

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    Venkatachari Mposted 2 weeks ago

    I want to keep going as long as HubPages doesn’t shut down on their own.
    
    I published my latest article on 16th July 2025.

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    Venkatachari Mposted 2 weeks ago

    Today, the statistics page shows that "statistics include from seven days ago and before that period".
    
    I think they cannot tell which views are human and which are from AI. That could be the reason why they are not updating the figures.

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    CELEBSFAN78posted 2 weeks ago

    It has never taken this long for theme to update the statistics page. Usually they will update them within 2 days at the latest. I published my latest article about three days ago.

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       Kenna McHughposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

       Ara, TAG/HP is not as you think. Look through the forums. That will help you understand the lack of professionalism.

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    CELEBSFAN78posted 2 weeks ago

    The issue is on their end. They will have to resolve this.

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       CYong74posted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

       I doubt TAG feels the same way.

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    theraggededgeposted 2 weeks ago

    They don't have to fix it. They may never do so.
    
    How to say 'we're closing HubPages' without actually saying it.

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    PaulGoodman67posted 2 weeks ago

    As a matter of historical interest, I believe that the Titanic's clocks were all showing 11:40 p.m. when it went down.

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    CELEBSFAN78posted 2 weeks ago

    "Sorry for the delay?" That' all you guys can say? You have got to do better than this, MUCH better. We are working on it is not good enough. It has been 9 days since any statistics updates. You guys have to do better than this. There's no excuse for this. Now please resolve the situation as soon as possible, thank you.

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       Kenna McHughposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

       I hear you! But save your breath. It's futile.

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    CELEBSFAN78posted 2 weeks ago

    I know. It is challenging to do when you've been a longtime member. Some of these writers earn a pretty good side income from Hubpages (or at least they used to before all of these changes). I also think they should bring back the commenting feature on articles.

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       Kenna McHughposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

       I suggest you peruse the forums. All this has been talked about.

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       Springboardposted 2 days agoin reply to this

       I actually liked it when they shut comments down and focused more on promoting things organically. When we were a comment driven site I don't think anyone actually bothered to read the articles or were even interested in them. They wanted to offer a backlink for views, and I think that took away from the purpose some of us had to come here...
       
       To write articles and be read by a genuine audience who cared.

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    CELEBSFAN78posted 2 weeks ago

    Whenever the Hubpages staff would ask me to rate them via a survey one of the things I always let them know in the other comments section for them to bring back the commenting feature. They probably discontinued this because members were getting into arguments. That's my best guess.

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       Kenna McHughposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

       Nope. It wasn't arguments. It's baffling that TAG/HP's reasoning is unclear.

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       Shesabutterflyposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

       Samantha Cubbison said multiple times comments were not a feature that could be supported through the transfer to the Maven platform. If you check out most of the other Arena owned sites they do not have comments either.
       
       That was the reason Rojo was created and why Letterpile for example, had a new system added.
       
       I do not think they were able to find a viable replacement and gave up on it.

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       bravewarriorposted 13 days agoin reply to this

       You're wasting your time. HP hasn't listened to our grievances/requests for several years now. This site has bitten the virtual dust.

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    CELEBSFAN78posted 2 weeks ago

    Oh I see. Did you ever find out what the reason was?

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       Kenna McHughposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

       No.

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       theraggededgeposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

       Yes. They switched layouts from the original HP style (see Author View on your stats to see what that looked like) to the new TAG ad-ridden, disjointed, ugly version that you see now. Along the way, several of the original capsules, including the comments were trashed.
       
       They always said that comments would come back but they never did. "We're working on it", is the standard response.

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    mikec1978posted 2 weeks ago

    9 days since the last stats update makes me think they are not bothering with it. The 'we are working on it' does not convince me either.
    
    Whilst earnings are updating I'm not sure these are accurate either although I have never earned that much per day on here there is a drop off.
    
    I may see if I can start writing on other sites if there ane others which pay

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    Rupert Taylorposted 13 days ago

    A side effect of the stats freeze seems to be that new articles (I'm still writing them because, as I explained earlier, I was kicked in the head by a horse) are not being moved from the HubPages swill bucket to Discover. That means they can't earn the portions of a penny per week that I have become used to.
    
    If fixing the problem is too challenging for HubTAG, I have a neighbour whose 12-year-old could probably get the job done remotely in a few minutes.

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       Nageshwar Rana906posted 13 days agoin reply to this

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          Kenna McHughposted 12 days agoin reply to this

          When you say "spoke," do you mean "email"?

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             bravewarriorposted 12 days agoin reply to this

             He joined just ten days ago and has only written one (unfeatured) article, so I doubt he knows what's going on. Why would he contact HP with an issue that clearly doesn't concern or affect him?

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                Kenna McHughposted 12 days agoin reply to this

                Thanks, Shauna. My goodness. What a waste of time.

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    CELEBSFAN78posted 12 days ago

    Server problem? It must be on Hubpages' end. I'm starting to transfer some of my articles to my own websites because we don't know when this stats issue will be fixed and then the other thing is that unless writers get a ton of traffic to their articles, they usually only earn pennies through the Hubpages ads program. It's not worth the time anymore to keep publishing on Hubpages, what do you guys think?

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       Kenna McHughposted 12 days agoin reply to this

       That's what most of us are doing, leaving.

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          Springboardposted 2 days agoin reply to this

          That's really the real issue with lack of communication, isn't it? I mean, if HP ISN'T shutting down, it doesn't matter if members feel like they are and stop writing or leave. That's the damage control I was talking about in an earlier comment. HP is really just shooting itself in the foot by not being transparent with members about what's going on and what's being done about it.
          
          It's frustrating to say the least.

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             PaulGoodman67posted 2 days agoin reply to this

             TAG already announced that they were no longer interested in the HP model three months ago.
             
             The niches were closed down and the editorial staff dispensed with.
             
             The platform's done.

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       bravewarriorposted 12 days agoin reply to this

       I stopped publishing here three years ago because things were going downhill then. Now the bottom of the barrel has been hit.

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    CELEBSFAN78posted 12 days ago

    Yes, this is a very different website compared to even 2015 or earlier. They used to allow duplicate content. That would have been really nice fir us writers, then we could get double the traffic if we posted them on other sites. But those days are gone. What are some of these writers doing nowadays? I'd guess perhaps they start their own websites? I think Hubpages should allow posting these Hubpages articles on other sites, it would be better for the writers.

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       theraggededgeposted 12 days agoin reply to this

       I've been here 16 years; HubPages hasn't permitted duplicate content since Google launched its panda updates years and years ago. By implementing such strategies HubPages managed to survive and eventually thrive... until the disastrous Maven/TAG buyout. It's been downhill since then.
       
       Duplicating articles doesn't double traffic, it tends to split it.

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          PaulGoodman67posted 11 days agoin reply to this

          Yeah, duplicating articles hasn't been allowed here since around 2011.
          
          Google Search punishes all duplicates. If there are multiple versions, it usually treats the oldest one as the original and deprives the rest of views.
          
          No additional traffic is gained.

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    CELEBSFAN78posted 12 days ago

    The more exposure that articles, get, the better it would be for us writers. That's why I think Hubpages should allow duplicate content.

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    CELEBSFAN78posted 11 days ago

    Hubpages used to be a much better website years ago.

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    CELEBSFAN78posted 11 days ago

    Yes, my earnings are definitely down too. It doesn't make a lot of sense to publish on Hubpages if you only get a few cents each day from the Ads Program. Not worth the effort. Does anyone else here feel this way?

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       PaulGoodman67posted 10 days agoin reply to this

       Virtually everyone else feels the same and has been posting in the forums about it for at least the past two years.

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          theraggededgeposted 10 days agoin reply to this

          Looking forward to my final payout in a couple of days

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             Kenna McHughposted 10 days agoin reply to this

             Same here, Bev. My clients are keeping me too busy to move my articles. I have a glitch on my other site about image uploading. Angst! Hopefully, next week, I will be able to resolve the issue.

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       bravewarriorposted 10 days agoin reply to this

       Most of us old-timers feel exactly that way.

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    vrdmposted 11 days ago

    Way to go Team Hubpages....  And this isn't the first time!

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    mikec1978posted 11 days ago

    12 days since the last stats update and no real word from Hubpages except 'we are working on it'.
    
    So come on hubpages actually give us a real responce and a timeframe to get this fixed. It is not just affecting the stats but also any new articles we may publish.

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    Rupert Taylorposted 10 days ago

    It is beginning to dawn on me that they have no intention of fixing the frozen statistics. Why would they bother?
    
    They obviously have no interest in trying to retain writers who whine and complain a lot about being mistreated. Why not hand that creative stuff off to a machine that never bellyaches and doesn't ask to be paid?
    
    We've experienced frozen stats in the past that were repaired in a matter of hours. A dozen days of inactivity suggests a deliberate policy of neglect.

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       theraggededgeposted 10 days agoin reply to this

       Exactly. They have no need to do anything if the site is finished.

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          Patty Inglish, MSposted 10 days agoin reply to this

          YES.

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       Patty Inglish, MSposted 10 days agoin reply to this

       100%!

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       Kenna McHughposted 10 days agoin reply to this

       Rupert, that is what some of us have found out. Take a look at some of TAG's "writers." Fake identities as writers can write about anything and anyone, hoping no one is the wiser. However, the AI machine (or system) still needs to obtain content from real writers until AIs start regurgitating each other's content. It's only a matter of time before real, hardworking writers find another platform for honest and truthful content.

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          CELEBSFAN78posted 10 days agoin reply to this

          Finding another platform? That's what I'm doing in fact I've already got that.

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             bravewarriorposted 10 days agoin reply to this

             Where will you be writing? Does the site pay its' writers?

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          DrMark1961posted 10 days agoin reply to this

          I just clicked on an article with a well written title, meant to make the reader curious, and found that the information was incorrect. (It was not TAG.) At the bottom the "author" said that it was AI generated, but if you look into the NIH report on that subject it was totally wrong. If you check Googles AI report it spits out the same answer, so unfortunately I do not think that the AI machine any longer needs real writers. They are going to include this article in their database, which is going to agree with their answer, and then someone is going to come along and write another answer based on this false report. It is just going on ad nauseum.
          At this point I do not know that real writers are ever going to find a platform if they dare to disagree with AIs mistakes.

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    CELEBSFAN78posted 10 days ago

    I think this is the year where we can say that Hubpages has reached its lowest point.

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       bravewarriorposted 10 days agoin reply to this

       Clearly. It will be defunct very soon. The writing is on the proverbial wall.

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          PaulGoodman67posted 10 days agoin reply to this

          Yes, that’s true regardless of whether the stats are fixed and we get to see our crappy views updating again.
          
          I think the writing’s been on the wall since they let go of the editors. They gave up at that point. Since then it’s just been the endgame playing out.

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             Solarasposted 7 days agoin reply to this

             LOL!! I am appalled by my crappy views. I was thinking the crap I was seeing would look better once things were fixed up. Not hardly. 
             
             I will be sad when I am no longer able to come here and have a laugh about how poorly we were treated, with the only consolation being that they did this to themselves as well as us.  Greed and stupidity are a profound combination when it comes to running something into the ground, in one of the world's most prolonged suicides. Thanks Maven.

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    Upendra Patil98posted 8 days ago

    I will continue writing on hubpage, whether I want to earn or not, I do not need any money, I like writing and I will always support hubpage, love, hubpage will not close anything

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       bravewarriorposted 8 days agoin reply to this

       To my fellow HPers: this person has been reported. He has no bio, no articles, and is a total fake.

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    Rupert Taylorposted 8 days ago

    No doubt they are working on it, so the ban should come through in about six months.

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    PaulGoodman67posted 7 days ago

    I don't see the stats being frozen as being at all important. I think the issue gets attention because it's very visible and an easy problem to understand.
    
    That's why people who never post normally suddenly appear in the forums.
    
    The big issues are really:
    
    The end of the topic sites and everything going to TAG or Discover.
    
    No more editing and the human filtering of articles effectively ending.
    
    TAG using hubber articles to create their own versions and promoting their own content at the expense of hubbers'.
    
    The rise of AI and the radical changes in online search.
    
    I don't think there's much prospect of change, just saying that within the wider context, the frozen stats really don't matter.

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       theraggededgeposted 7 days agoin reply to this

       They really don't.

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          CELEBSFAN78posted 6 days agoin reply to this

          Also, Hubpages doesn't allow that much creative freedom it is kind restrictive.

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    Cheryl E Prestonposted 44 hours ago

    How do you know there is no editorial staff? I had nto heard that.

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       theraggededgeposted 41 hours agoin reply to this

       Because no articles are being edited or snipped. I'm not sure whether new ones are being moved to Discover right now either.

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          Shesabutterflyposted 39 hours agoin reply to this

          The last I heard an editor being involved in articles was on my thread 6 weeks ago. Which surprised me at the time, as I was under the impression editors were no longer employed for Discover.
          
          Nothing has been moved to Discover since July 25th if the homepage is accurate.
          
          Per an email I received from HubPages staff, "there is a delay for this right now, and it is taking longer than normal" for articles to move. In case anyone left still actually believes anything they might have to say.
          
          The email didn't really answer the question I asked them. Which was, why were we not informed new articles are no longer being monetized since they are no longer being moved to Discover.

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             Cheryl E Prestonposted 38 hours agoin reply to this

             Wow thanks for the info.

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             Kenna McHughposted 34 hours agoin reply to this

             It's safe to say that some things are happening in the background. We will never know what they've done or are doing.

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       Kenna McHughposted 39 hours agoin reply to this

       Word is getting around on the Internet. HP is no longer legit.

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    Kulsum Mehmoodposted 11 hours ago

    But, it has been a very long time the statistics are frozen.

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    theraggededgeposted 5 hours ago

    I'll take a bet that there will soon be a forum post stating that due to the impossibility of fixing the glitch and all the other unfixable things that the site will be closing. Or, at best, continuing as it is, broken and limping along, for a little longer.
    
    In the words of the immortal Frazer of Dad's Army, "We're doooomed".

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