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What a load of BS!!!

  1. Andraste profile image58
    Andrasteposted 7 years ago

    I come back to HubPages, hoping that I can make a fresh start. I didn't think I did anything wrong as Pani Midnyte Odin, but apparently, someone has it in for me.

    So I'm going to tackle these rumors from start to finish.

    #1 I'm not Lyricsingray/Kimberly. I don't know who started that rumor, but you all seem to thrive on drama when it comes to her. No offense to her, but I'd rather not be associated with her.

    #2 Yes, my thread may be full of inaccuracies and flaws, but that is because it's not my check the IRS is garnishing and I am going solely on what my roommate has told me. I also have a mental illness that makes it difficult for me to organize my thoughts. I would also like to mention that I was not asking for help in that damn thread. I was merely explaining why I may not be on HubPages as much as usual. Also, unless you're the one in the situation, you don't know jack shit as far as I'm concerned.

    #3 I don't know where the rumor started that I have twins, but I don't have any children. I have, however, had several miscarriages, not that it's any of your damn business.

    #4 Yes, the name I use on Facebook is, in fact, my real legal name. Once again, I don't see how it's any of your business what I call myself on the internet, but yeah, that's my real name. Sorry to disappoint, but I'm not a liar and I don't pretend to be anybody I'm not. Secondly, Heather is the LAST name I'd choose for myself, as it is typically the name of a bimbo blond with big tits and no brain to speak of.

    #5 I have no friends. Yeah, the secret's out. I'm a goddamn shut in. My life used to be full of excitement and danger, but you know, it really wasn't the kind of life I'd wish on my worst enemy. I don't have any friends because I'm starting fresh with my life and the only reason I joined that damn Facebook is because Hokey asked me to. You wanna see where I have friends? Go to MyYearBook and look me up: Pani Midnyte Odin. I have plenty of damn friends on there, as well as far too much personal information for any of you, but hey, it's all about unmasking someone, right? Even if they didn't do anything wrong or try to hide anything other than a few minor details?

    #6 Yup, I live with a man and his 15 year old son. Who gives a shit? It's for financial reasons.

    So there you have it. I've been unmasked. I don't give a shit if you believe me or not, but for those of you that do believe me, good for you. For those of you who don't believe me... GOOD RIDDANCE!

    1. alternate poet profile image68
      alternate poetposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      er er er hello smile  is it safe to come in now?

      1. Andraste profile image58
        Andrasteposted 7 years agoin reply to this

        Nope. I'm in an ass-kicking mood today.

        1. alternate poet profile image68
          alternate poetposted 7 years agoin reply to this

          Go see my new and only poem on here - make me feel better even if it does nothing for you smile

          1. Andraste profile image58
            Andrasteposted 7 years agoin reply to this

            It's a beautiful poem, but I'm having trouble appreciating it as I am in a horrible mood. I will definitely come back to look at it when I am in a better mood though. Thanks for sharing.

    2. Andraste profile image58
      Andrasteposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      K, I see where the rumor I have twins started. Y'all realize that people CAN post photos of their cousin's children, right? Or do you not visit your extended family or what? Also, read the captions on a few of them. I clearly identify that I am NOT their mother. Nice detective work there, geniuses.

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      JeanMeriamposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Hey. Nice name. Hopefully all turns around for you here. Don't worry about the rumours, just ignore. Internet forums are like small towns, always full of rumours, melodramas, etc.

      I'm not going to be adding to this site anymore because of the mismatched ads, really mismatched ads and posting on my own site instead. Ya leaving. I guess that makes me a drama queen, lol.

      Anyway, I think you have my email addy. And thanks for the help.

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    Lecieposted 7 years ago

    i have never heard these rumors you speak of. even if i did i wouldn't believe what anyone says about you. i just wonder if there are rumors going around about me now that i have yet to hear. i thought most of the people here were nice but if they are starting rumors like school children then perhaps i should reevalute the whole situtation. thank you for sharing i have mental disorders as well. i know how tough it is to try overcoming them everyday. i have social phobias. which means that most face to face encounters throw me into panic attacks. so i pretty much live like a hermit. that's why i enjoy hubpages so much, i can actually talk to people. but if they are starting rumors, i'm not sure i feel safe here any more.

    1. Andraste profile image58
      Andrasteposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      HubPages used to be a safety zone for me as well. I'm not sure what I did wrong, but I don't feel very safe here either.

    2. alternate poet profile image68
      alternate poetposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Ok then - what kind of rumours would you like ?  I can do dirty rumours, filthy rumours, identity rumours, all free for you laaaaady !!    Directly copied from a faint memory of a Monty Python sketch.

      1. Andraste profile image58
        Andrasteposted 7 years agoin reply to this

        lol That actually put a bit of a smile on my face. At least there are SOME nice people here, although I can't help wondering if you are a sock puppet?

        1. Pandoras Box profile image67
          Pandoras Boxposted 7 years agoin reply to this

          lol

          You say that like it's a bad thing!

          I'ma have to get me one. Bet they're very useful. Stress relieving....

    3. samboiam profile image60
      samboiamposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Lecie, pleasse don't let one person who woke up on the wrong side of the bed ruin your experience on HP.

      Yes there are some real asses but they are far out numbered by some really great people. Don't throw the baby out with the bath water.

      You are a joy to read and follow. Just keep doing what you are doing.

  3. Pandoras Box profile image67
    Pandoras Boxposted 7 years ago

    No idea what you're talking about. Haven't been spending too much time in the forums lately cause I've been trying to get some work done. All the same -screw 'em, as me ol' mammy used ta say.

    Love the new name!

    1. Andraste profile image58
      Andrasteposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Apparently, these rumors are starting via private emails. They are obviously too cowardly to say these things where I can read them.

      Thank you for the comment on my name.

      1. tantrum profile image60
        tantrumposted 7 years agoin reply to this

        You brought in the open ,something that nobody knew. just me and another two hubbers, that out of respect are not going to say anything.
        As I told you, for your safety, someone e-mailed me telling me you were Kim, and that you should do something about it.
        That was a  personal message for you.
        Now you brought in the open something that no one knew about. Nobody knew that someone said you were kim, but 3 hubbres, which I'm one.
        I never talk about you on HP forums. If you  say I'm lying, show me.
        You're doing a lot of drama about nothing!

        People talk one way or the other. who cares !
        I've been told terrible things as well.
        i go on with my life. You do the same

        1. Pandoras Box profile image67
          Pandoras Boxposted 7 years agoin reply to this

          See, she fucks 'em all the time.

          big_smile

          Just kidding, tantrum, just kidding. I couldn't resist it, and I figure you're real enough to take a joke and not take offense.

        2. Faybe Bay profile image73
          Faybe Bayposted 7 years agoin reply to this

          Ironic you should say that, as I had e-mails sent to me days ago saying Pani was Kimberly. I denied it and they said it was confirmed, so I questioned it again, and none of the e-mails came from you or Pani, someone isn't telling the truth. I don't deal with facebook, so it was only from HP.

          1. tantrum profile image60
            tantrumposted 7 years agoin reply to this

            Well, I don't know about your e-mails. It seems someone was on an e-mail spree then. I received only one, and commented it with other 2 hubbers. It was not you.

        3. tantrum profile image60
          tantrumposted 7 years agoin reply to this

          It's a shame she brought all these to light. Nobody knew, now everybody does. E-mails are private stuff. Even if they're obviously fake.
          You can believe them or not.
          I always chose to believe until I find out it's a lie. I always give the benefit of doubt.
          But that's just me.

        4. Andraste profile image58
          Andrasteposted 7 years agoin reply to this

          Tantrum, I only have one thing to say to you. I have defended you on the forums and in private emails many times. I always thought you were a good person until you started these rumors with these so-called anonymous hubbers. The fact that you brought it to my attention was something I thought was out of friendship. Then, when I write you back and ask you who it is, you agree 100% with them. Your shitty detective work amazes me when you claim you've studied psychology and put others down for their stupidity.

          The fact that I stood up for you puts me in shame now. Because now I see exactly who you are, a miserable little attention seeker with a thirst for attention and drama.

          If you have a fucking problem with me, ask me upfront. Don't fucking talk behind my back. And THEN you add insult to injury by calling ME childish?

          ME? When all I've done is tried to stay out of goddamn drama and act like a goddamn adult?!?! Grow the fuck up, Tantrum. You're nothing.

          And y'all can go ahead and flag me or whatever. Get me banned. I don't give a shit caz this IS, in fact a personal attack on Tantrum. She fucking deserves it. I'm sick of all her bullshit. Bullshit with Kim, bullshit with Cosette, bullshit with me. You're nothing fucking special Tantrum, your shit stinks just as bad as everybody else's, even worse caz it's filled with the miserable, cruel shit you store in your belly. And you lie and you lie and you lie and you fucking lie some more. I wouldn't be surprised if you were Kimberly/Lyrics. I saw your fucking stunt with the sock puppets and your writing style sure as hell matches up with hers, at least on the forums anyway, Miss-I-Post-Big-Tittied-Blond-Chicks-On-My-FaceBook-Who-Aren't-Really-Me. Yeah, whose posing as someone else now?

          As for the rest of you anonymous hubbers thinking all this dumbass shit about me, you're just as fucking bad as she is, pretending to be all fucking great and wonderful, then attacking a person who hasn't done shit to you.

          Oh, by the way, Tantrum, are you really that fucking stupid you'd admit it was you when I didn't mention any fucking names? That was a redundant question, by the way. No need to answer.

          So fucking flag me, I don't give a shit. I'm done with this forum bullshit anyway.

          K thx bai

          1. tantrum profile image60
            tantrumposted 7 years agoin reply to this

            I NEVER STARTED ANYTHING. YOU BROUGHT IT OUT TO LIGHT
            AND I WAS TRYING TO WARN YOU

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            cosetteposted 7 years agoin reply to this




            um

            Pani or whoever you are

            please leave me out of your little diatribe. i don't know who you are nor do i care. if you want to say i am involved in your little debacle, please post some proof.

            my problem is with lyrics and lyrics alone, okedokee? don't assume just because i have problems with her i have problems with you. i don't know anything about you and why would i care. i don't read you.

            same with that IntimateEvolutions chick. she comes out swinging with a whole truckload of vicious rhetoric attempting to spark rage against me and i don't know her either. never read her, and of course, she has no proof either, yet expresses seething rage towards someone (me) who never gave her a passing thought.

            thanks ever so.

            1. Andraste profile image58
              Andrasteposted 7 years agoin reply to this

              Wasn't expressing any rage towards you in the slightest, Cosette. I was expressing all my rage towards Tantrum. Sorry if you misunderstood.

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                cosetteposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                oh well

                all right then winkbig_smile

                'k, this is my last comment on this at the moment: there is one person who is HUGELY repsonsible for the behind-the-scenes drama these days who has herself done some VERY ACTIVE witch-hunting and emailed and copied many people re: her theories re: lyrics. and it is NOT tantrum. nor i. nor WordScribe. in fact, it is a person who has proven to be very two-faced and is now in lyrics' camp.

                if i see another thread like this with my name in it, i am going to rat her out.

                thank you and have a pleasant day.

                p.s. hi Spidey. nice to see you. smile

                well, duty calls.

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    Poppa Bluesposted 7 years ago

    People can be cruel and if given an opportunity they will eat you alive. The anonymity of the Internet allows people to pursue their dark side, to do and say things they normally wouldn't. These are just some of the reasons I don't use my pic, or my name, nor do I share personal information about myself. While I believe you can make friends and establish lasting relationships on the Internet, I don't believe it's the best place to do so. If you can maintain you're anonymity, and avoid close relationships, and friendships, no one can hurt you by rumor or otherwise.

    1. Andraste profile image58
      Andrasteposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      The thing is, I wasn't close to any of them. They are just cruel and childish by nature. I honestly can't believe someone would attack me when all I have done is tried to be kind and respectful, even allowing them to cry on my shoulder in a manner of speaking.

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        Poppa Bluesposted 7 years agoin reply to this

        In nature, if you show weakness your own kind will kill you. There's something about the Internet that brings out the primal instincts long buried by years of civilization, especially when people "gather" in groups. Don't let them get to you, don't show weakness.

        1. Andraste profile image58
          Andrasteposted 7 years agoin reply to this

          I don't understand where I've shown weakness though. Yes, I've got mental illnesses, but I am stronger than the average person in many ways emotionally. That is why I call myself a warrior on my profile.

          I've always wanted to be a writer and I thought HubPages was a gateway into that, but now I see that another one of my dreams have diminished thanks to childish people.

          1. aka-dj profile image76
            aka-djposted 7 years agoin reply to this

            Start a whole new profile.
            Disconnect from the old (ones).
            Do not remember the past.
            Make it the first day of the rest of your life (on HP).
            End of story....Or is that the beginning???
            Well, you know what I mean. big_smile

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            Poppa Bluesposted 7 years agoin reply to this

            If you are a "Warrior" you won't give in to them or allow your dreams to be diminished by them.

            Just making this thread is a capitulation to those generating rumors. There is no reason for you to reveal the "truth", you need only be true to yourself, hold your head high, and pursue your dreams. Let the others talk what they do will neither empty your wallet or break your leg.

            1. Pandoras Box profile image67
              Pandoras Boxposted 7 years agoin reply to this

              I agree with Poppa, (shh, don't tell anyone). wink

              In other words, fuck 'em.

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                Poppa Bluesposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                I'm going to copy this and save it so I can call it up at any time! big_smile

          3. megs78 profile image61
            megs78posted 7 years agoin reply to this

            They can't hurt you if you don't let them.  you know who you are and thats all that should matter.  i know its difficult sometimes when these things happen, but you have to be above it all and just ignore it.  it just doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things does it?  take the experience and turn it into a hub.  use it creatively instead of destructively.  maybe its easier said than done, but if you're a warrior, this should be the challenge that you thrive on.  chin up girl!

            1. Pandoras Box profile image67
              Pandoras Boxposted 7 years agoin reply to this

              She agrees. Fuck 'em.

          4. Randy Godwin profile image94
            Randy Godwinposted 7 years agoin reply to this

            Don't get caught up in the drama on HP.  There is always someone threatening to leave or wanting sympathy or just attention if nothing else.  Why do you care what these types think?  Every writing site has these types who think they are special when in in reality they are the most pitiful of all.

            Ignore those people!  It's as simple as that!  I am tired of the silly drama queens and trolls here too, but they do serve as an example of how not to act!

            1. Jane@CM profile image60
              Jane@CMposted 7 years agoin reply to this

              Randy is correct!  Its not just on writing sites either - its an internet thing.  Let it roll off your back.

              1. Pandoras Box profile image67
                Pandoras Boxposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                Let it roll right off your back. Fuck 'em.

            2. Pandoras Box profile image67
              Pandoras Boxposted 7 years agoin reply to this

              He agrees, too. Fuck 'em.

          5. Pandoras Box profile image67
            Pandoras Boxposted 7 years agoin reply to this

            Uh-uh. Fuck 'em, as the good book says. My good book, that is.

            (Note to Moderator: Not really sure yer allowed to cuss on here.. Let's say I've forgotten the Terms of Use and/or Forum Rules. I've seen others cuss, but have personally avoided it, other than an occassional damn or hell for stressing my point. However, drastic times call for drastic measures. Nothing says "fuck 'em" like "fuck 'em". Sure I could use symbols, but then my point would lose its emphasis. I could substitute the less offensive "screw 'em", but I already tried that, it really wasn't very effective. In order to get my very important point across that she needs to just "fuck 'em" and walk on, I need to actually say "fuck 'em". "Fuck 'em" isn't really an obscene term in the sense that i use it, it is rather just a modern way of saying they are lesser beings not worthy of my attention whom I shall henceforth banish from my esteem and consideration. If I transgress in using the term, I'm sure a warning would serve its purpose, whereas a ban may only breed another.. -nevermind.)   

            Seriously, pani, fuck 'em.

            1. skyfire profile image74
              skyfireposted 7 years agoin reply to this

              PB, Chill lol

            2. alternate poet profile image68
              alternate poetposted 7 years agoin reply to this

              Yeah !!    big_smile big_smile big_smile

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              Justine76posted 7 years agoin reply to this

              lol I second this load of f's ...

              I had no idea any of this was going on, I hope yor feeling a little better Pani, I never thought you had twins. I also hope you dont let one wbsite discourage you from any dreams. If you want to write..then write!!!

  5. aka-dj profile image76
    aka-djposted 7 years ago

    There's a new name for this stuff. It's "cyber-bullying".
    At least that's my take on it.
    We have a recent suicide (of a teenage boy) here "Down Under", as a result of this very thing.
    It only gets really bad if you actually know these bullies in the real world. Otherwise, its merely words on a screen, from avatars whom you can ignore if you like.
    Sorry to hear you been hurt.
    sad

    1. susanlang profile image60
      susanlangposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      aka-dj, the suicide's from (CYBER-BULLYING)  are increasing in alarming numbers. Just google the term:  cyber- bullying suicide and see what you come up with. Many websites now copy and save all back and forth messages and comments to other internet users. The goverment has asked for this as a result of cyber-bullying. What the online bully does not realize is the strong possibility of being contacted by the police and charged with a crime of manslaughter if someone who was bullied killed themself as a result of the cyber bully's actions!  It's no laughing matter, some say this is the internet and call it a make believe world. I disagree! It's very real and infact, REAL people are typing on their key boards or sending messages to the net from their cell phones and as a result, some people are dying. I say, be careful because many of the websites have online members who just might be a police officer watching all the action. I'm against cyber-bullying and it's a real shame when it leads to someone's DEATH. I agree with you aka-dj.

      1. tantrum profile image60
        tantrumposted 7 years agoin reply to this

        You should read this thread
        Sometimes death and suicide are faked
        Some people are really crazy

        http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/2681

        1. susanlang profile image60
          susanlangposted 7 years agoin reply to this

          Tantrum, please don't try and put a spin on what I said! What I said is a proven fact and I don't care to change the subject with you!  Thank you.

          1. tantrum profile image60
            tantrumposted 7 years agoin reply to this

            There's always another side of the story. LOL

  6. Rafini profile image87
    Rafiniposted 7 years ago

    Wow.  I had no idea.  In my opinion, you owe nothing to anyone regarding information about yourself online.  In todays world you have to protect yourself without apology. 
    I am willing to give out personal info in terms of how I'm feeling or what experiences I've had that brought me to be who I am, but I will not give out personal identifying information over the internet. 
    And I refuse to apologize for it, if someone can't accept it - it's their problem, not mine.
    I am beginning to think it's time to give up on the forums...except to find info I am looking for.  Good luck to you, Andraste. smile
    (interesting new name, I like it smile )

  7. Ladybird33 profile image46
    Ladybird33posted 7 years ago

    Hope you feel better after writing that, I sure would.  Plus, you really don't owe us anything, either we like you or we don't.  But really matters is the writing, so just write my friend.  I wish you the best.

  8. kirstenblog profile image78
    kirstenblogposted 7 years ago

    Andraste I just want to say I LOVE your profile pic! big_smile
    You take care of yourself hun, kick a little butt if ya need and know that YOU ROCK and don't need anyone to tell you what you already know!

    1. Pandoras Box profile image67
      Pandoras Boxposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      ...which basically means fuck 'em.

  9. skyfire profile image74
    skyfireposted 7 years ago

    Forget the past and start everything from scratch. Time heals everything so just engage yourself in something productive.

    1. Pandoras Box profile image67
      Pandoras Boxposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      He also thinks you should just fuck 'em.

  10. Disturbia profile image60
    Disturbiaposted 7 years ago

    WOW! I guess I live a very sheltered life. 

    I have noticed that there are definate clicks here in the HubPages especially in the forums and there are also people who seem to be targets, and others who make themselves targets by being deliberatly argumentative. I won't name names as it doesn't take but a few days of being in the forums to know who these people are. But I had no idea things can get this bad.

    I don't completely understand what happened to you, but obviously, it was terrible and you were very hurt by it. You shouldn't have to put up with anybody's crap and you certainly shouldn't have to defend yourself or anything you do here on HubPages to anybody else. I'm sorry you're in such a bad mood, but I can surely understand it.

    I'm sending you some good vibes and I hope your day gets better.  Just ignore the rumors and the idiots who spread them. Pitty those who have so little in their lives that they have so much free time to spread misery. Also believe, what goes around comes back around so those whoever hurt you will be hurting themselves.  They probably already are, after all, think how miserable their lives must be that they get satisfaction from hurting others.

    Oh btw, I like what you wrote.  I always feel better when I rant and vent .  I'm glad you spoke your mind.  Feel better <sends hugs and good vibes>

    1. Pandoras Box profile image67
      Pandoras Boxposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      all just a round-about way of saying "fuck 'em".

  11. skyfire profile image74
    skyfireposted 7 years ago

    lol

  12. Pandoras Box profile image67
    Pandoras Boxposted 7 years ago

    I think I have effectively made my point and we all seem to agree. Fuck 'em.

    I hereby chill.

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      Justine76posted 7 years agoin reply to this

      cool.  cool

      1. susanlang profile image60
        susanlangposted 7 years agoin reply to this

        love your cool sunglasses  wink

  13. tantrum profile image60
    tantrumposted 7 years ago

    but all this should have stayed private. As we had done! all the people that received mails, if there are more, it's obvious hadn't say anything.

    1. Faybe Bay profile image73
      Faybe Bayposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      I don't blame anyone, I kept telling everyone this was getting out of hand! I tried to stop you, and them, I even left the forums.

      Everyone on a witch hunt to expose one person with multiple accounts, ended up being a dozen forums about the subject.

      I know you don't think much of me as a Hubber, but I did try to fight this.

      1. tantrum profile image60
        tantrumposted 7 years agoin reply to this

        This was calmed down, until Pany brought it all again to light, based in private information I had given her. Private is private ,I assume.
        I don't think much about you ? where did I have said this?
        I hope you're not looking for more drama ! Really !

        1. Andraste profile image58
          Andrasteposted 7 years agoin reply to this

          No, it wasn't calmed down. The fact that you're a two-faced little backstabbing bitch is still right there in the open. If anybody needs to be exposed, it's you.

          Just because you add "Take care" to the end of a message insulting me and accusing me of being a liar doesn't make things better.

          1. tantrum profile image60
            tantrumposted 7 years agoin reply to this

            I never insulted you
            OK You wanted in
            the open. Here is my message to you for everyone to see.



            Look Heather. I don't have any problems having you as a FB friend. that's OK. But you have pictures of yourself with twins. And it's obvious they're yours, or you're trying to make them look like that.
            And, I have studied Psychiatry for several years, And you don't look very confused with your new 'personality'. and you were lying in the financial thread. Maybe you're not Lyrics, but then you should seek some help. Maybe you're a compulsive liar ?Not offense implied. That's only a side of an schizo attitude. Anyway.Forget all about Lyrics. Nobody's saying anything about it. I'm not going to say anything, you can be sure of that. Go on with your life. I'm not going to intrude. But beware, that someone can spot you as someone with mental problems and do you harm. Internet is no children games.
            Take care !

            1. tantrum profile image60
              tantrumposted 7 years agoin reply to this

              So here again for everyone to see

            2. Andraste profile image58
              Andrasteposted 7 years agoin reply to this

              That's not all you said. You also refused to answer any of my questions because you straight out called me a liar. And then you disguise it with some cheerful attitude like you're the queen of the world.

              The way you made it sound in the emails made it seem like it was much bigger than 2-3 hubbers.

              And you always seem to be the one right in the middle of all the drama, tantrum.

              1. tantrum profile image60
                tantrumposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                Anyone that wants to see the original messages, feel free to e-mail me and I will forward them

          2. Faybe Bay profile image73
            Faybe Bayposted 7 years agoin reply to this

            Sorry dear, I am so sorry, but no matter how we slice it, it must be all about certain hubbers, and the rest of us get to be the supporting cast.

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              cosetteposted 7 years agoin reply to this



              i beg your pardon Faybe, but who is opening outright nasty threads in the past few days hmm? that is uncool to accuse tanturm and "certain hubbers" of being repsonsible for all the garbage floating on the forum in the last couple of days... roll

              1. Faybe Bay profile image73
                Faybe Bayposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                I have not opened any outright nasty threads. I have not accused any particular hubber of anything.

        2. Faybe Bay profile image73
          Faybe Bayposted 7 years agoin reply to this

          Tantrum, you are the drama queen, not me. I have no need of drama. The thread was closed to reply, actually. To quote you it was "Wouldn't surprise me, I've read your hubs"

          As A final note, I have said it before and I will say it once more, the Forum threads come up on Google more than our hubs do, trashing each other in the forums is not going to get us where we want to go, financially.

          1. tantrum profile image60
            tantrumposted 7 years agoin reply to this

            I'm not a drama queen LOL
            If someone accuses me of being a liar to say the least, I have the right to defend myself
            don't you think ?????

            1. Faybe Bay profile image73
              Faybe Bayposted 7 years agoin reply to this

              I didn't accuse you or anyone of being a liar, I just think it's ironic that I heard all of the BS on the 8th that you say was between you and 2 others, and completely confidential.

              Don't forget when you told me never tell, I never did, ( the first time, only time) but you just spread it around so that someone did.

      2. Stevennix2001 profile image92
        Stevennix2001posted 7 years agoin reply to this

        it's okay faybe.   i think you've done all you could to try to keep the peace here and then some.  this kind of goes back to what i was saying earlier.  as of right now, it's far too easy for hubbers to create multiple accounts.  i know i shouldn't say anything, but i think hubpages would be better off if they started to fix their system to where each person can only own one account each.

  14. Stevennix2001 profile image92
    Stevennix2001posted 7 years ago

    Well all i know is.  at least i know that the people and friends that i care about are real, so that's all im worried about. however, i do hope this whole sock puppet mess gets resolved soon.

    1. tantrum profile image60
      tantrumposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      There's no sockpuppet mess. Everybody knows by now, that's something common in the Internet.
      Each should see how to cope with it.

      1. Stevennix2001 profile image92
        Stevennix2001posted 7 years agoin reply to this

        well, it was bound to happen with the level of free information the net has provided for years.

  15. The10DollarMark profile image61
    The10DollarMarkposted 7 years ago

    Oh my. This is getting to be really dramatic.

    Why not just agree that, next time someone receives an email about someone else, to just directly ask that person if it's true?

    And that such arguments are best left for email/separatechatrooms than making them widely known to the public?

    And Andraste, there's no need to get so upset. If people are saying bad things, email them with the facts, and then leave it at that. I'm sure the rumors didn't start with any evil intent - just mere human curiosity.

    And tantrum, I get that you like to assume things are true until proven not, but unless you contact the person in question directly, you won't find out. Perhaps you should have emailed Andraste/Pany, and then mailed back the other two emailers so that these rumors may have been squandered quickly.

    Now let's calm down and realize that this is not the end of the world. There are worse things that could happen (like people could hate you, form a clique, and have everyone in that clique spam/report/down your hubs yikes. Now THAT'd be something worthy of ranting about in the forums)

    1. tantrum profile image60
      tantrumposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      I had E- mailed her. It was supposed to be private. Don't you think ?

      1. The10DollarMark profile image61
        The10DollarMarkposted 7 years agoin reply to this

        If it started with an email it should end with an email, yes I do think. There was no need for a forum post.

        I think it's best if we all just calmed down, stopped posting, and waited 24 hours to think and ponder. Maybe things will not look as dramatic and full of F words tomorrow.

        1. tantrum profile image60
          tantrumposted 7 years agoin reply to this

          That's what I'm saying.
          Never mind !
          this is Interent.
          It seems some people didn't get it yet

      2. Andraste profile image58
        Andrasteposted 7 years agoin reply to this

        It's not private when you make it seem like the whole HubPages Community thinks these rumors of me. And if it involves me, you'd think that you could do the adult thing and at least forward the emails to me so I could see exactly what was being said. But no, instead you choose to make things ever so worse by telling me only what you think I should hear and making it seem like everybody thinks these awful things of me.

        I've never had multiple accounts, sock puppet accounts, or any other account besides the one I deleted and this one.

  16. tantrum profile image60
    tantrumposted 7 years ago

    Anyone that wants the original ,I can e-mail it
    I don't have anything to hide
    I'm reporting this thread

  17. TheGlassSpider profile image74
    TheGlassSpiderposted 7 years ago

    All this is terrible. TERRIBLE!!

    This is not the HP I joined where a whole city's worth of people were willing to reach out to me when I was in a very dark hour! sad

    I hate to see people hurt and angry.

    I don't want to minimize anyone's pain or sense of injustice either, but may I cordially suggest that everyone take a few moments to join this thread: http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/40714

    Many of you will find that others have said beautiful things about you...and perhaps we could each take a moment to focus on something positive about ourselves and another.

    Please, guys?

    sad

  18. tantrum profile image60
    tantrumposted 7 years ago

    I just e-mailed the staff. I'm sure they'll take care of everything.

  19. TheGlassSpider profile image74
    TheGlassSpiderposted 7 years ago

    Again...cuz I think I got lost in additional posts (Gosh, you guys are FAST!)

    All this is terrible. TERRIBLE!!

    This is not the HP I joined where a whole city's worth of people were willing to reach out to me when I was in a very dark hour! sad

    I hate to see people hurt and angry.

    I don't want to minimize anyone's pain or sense of injustice either, but may I cordially suggest that everyone take a few moments to join this thread: http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/40714

    Many of you will find that others have said beautiful things about you...and perhaps we could each take a moment to focus on something positive about ourselves and another.

    Please, guys?

    sad

  20. mega1 profile image80
    mega1posted 7 years ago

    oh, give it a rest, why don't ya?  lol

  21. AEvans profile image78
    AEvansposted 7 years ago

    Here is the story in its entirety:

    Concerns were raised because a hubber had opened multiple accounts, there is nothing against TOS saying you cannot have them as noted on other threads. Odd things began to happen so unfortunately assumptions were made, misinformed yes, clarity was given on so many hubbers. There was a situation between two hubbers however people need to realize that it is only the Internet and many of us can be drawn into something that we should not be drawn into. From the e-mails I recieved I began to believe that some of the hubbers were the same person and that upset me to because I do not like being played for a fool.  Did I believe it was lyrics? for a little while. I chose to find out the truth by e-mailing her directly and asking her to stop her antics. She was sincerely honest and confided in me with a list. Because of confidentiality I will not share with anyone the original e-mails that had been sent with respect to all of the hubbers who were involved. This I can say,

    There was a time when everyone was friends on hubpages nobody argued, accused, bullied or offended. None of us is perfect and sharing e-mails would only destroy the credibility of those who were upset over the entire situation and it just wasn't Wordscribe, Cosette, or Tantrum,or myself many were shocked by all of the malice that was going on, along with many e-mails that were recieved from other hubbers.  You can be upset with me as well but if there is one thing I always do, is forgive those for the wrong-doings and believe in them again. I also began to feed into the nonsense and realized that it was not appropriate and that HP would handle it should they find issues.  All of you need to forgive each person that you believe may have harmed you, walk away just let it go and we need to work on being the community that we used to be.

    Say something nice to each other and have fun in the forums nobody was on a witch-hunt they were only searching for clarity and understanding and from what I have seen there was an abundance of confusion as well. We shouldn't hold grudges against each other we use to embrace each other. We are human and we also need to learn to forgive.

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