This is something I swear I will never understand, I guess I'm not supposed to.
Baaaad joojoo you best not be meddlin in tings men ain't meant to understand, you hear me?
I'm a bit curious about it myself.
I get that duplicate content = bad.
I get that "quality writing" = good.
I get that there are rating buttons. (Corollary: if someone takes a dislike to you, they can downrate all your hubs, and probably create multiple accounts to re-downrate them, get their friends to downrate them, &c. They could also uprate them in the same way if they take a liking to you.)
It seems to me that the more extra stuff you slap on to your hub, the "better" it becomes. More JPGs, more .wav files, more more more. I don't get this, myself, but hey. We grew up watching Sesame Street and have short attention spans. Maybe lots of dancing baloney drives traffic?
But I have noticed that the top-rated hubbers all have a lot of hubs, and they're very well-written (in spite of the sometimes gratuitous inclusion of other media). My advice: write more, and write well. You'll reap the rewards.
Also, tell your friends about your hubs. It's okay to self-market. Don't be shy. Tell the world about the awesome new article you wrote and published. If it's good, they'll tell their friends. And so on, and so on...
Have you ever lookded at your profile, clicked to a Forum, clicked back to your profile and find your score went down 3 points?
I've seen this many times, though it's usually one point.
Jeff, I'm wondering what you mean by "gratuitous inclusion of other media"?
Separate from that, I have to say that it looks to me material that is carefully written and not necessarily aimed at a short attention span often seems to be rated well. I think if a lot of people are like me, they don't care so much what a Hub is about, and may vote up if they see that (even they're not interested in it) the Hubber aimed to put together a decent-quality piece of writing.
I'm "big" for media, though - which is I why I wouldn't mind expanding on that part of your discussion.
Jeff, I can reassure you on that point. It came up recently and Paul Deeds explained that one thumbs up/down on a Hub doesn't make much difference at all, so even if someone has it in for you, they can't do much damage.
That makes sense to me. HubPages isn't just about writing, it's about creating an attractive, informative magazine-style article. Magazines always have illustrations and a nicely designed layout!
Youtube videos are always good, because they keep visitors on your page longer, and you get a free backlink at Youtube. RSS feeds, News feeds and references (all hidden at the bottom of your Hub, below the comments) make you more popular with Google.
As for the rest - I've never added a wav, poll, quiz or any of that stuff, and my score ain't doing too bad!
Jeff, regarding up and down ratings- in response to some of the recent forum drama, a HP staffer commented that the down ratings have very little effect on hub scores.
Not sure if that is good or not, but it would make it very difficult for someone to play games of the type you mention.
The amount of juice you get from google seems to have an effect on my hubscore. When the bigger markets are all tucked up in bed, my score often drops overnight, only to refurbish itself in the morning!
Yesterday I wrote another Hub, received a bunch of comments and played on the Forums for some time. For all this activity my score was lowered two points.
I don't know where you got this deluded idea that commenting and making posts makes your score go down. If that were the case, how come the most vocal and frequent posters don't have single digit scores?
Given how much you seem to be upset with how this site works, Harvey, why do you stay here when there are so many other writing/publishing sites out there?
Well it's been a few short hours since I last posted the above. I just answered a few comments and my score was lowered another point. I guess someone thinks a zero would look good next to my name.
I've written Hub twice and still no answer.
Well one thing is for sure your not Robinson Crusoe. My hub score went down from 92 93 to 87 overnight !
The hub ranking system is about as mysterious as the Google search ranking system. Just when you think you have it worked out you realise you do not.
The silver lining is that your earnings depend on the search engine ranking system, whereas they don't depend on the hub rating system.
With a full of bull TOS months ago, I haven't dropped like this before. The searches keep coming.
my numbers are going up 91 this morning on 7 hubs but the seo arnt picking up so i think it is academic...... but it gave me some satisfaction
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