The Hub rating system

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  1. Harvey Stelman profile image60
    Harvey Stelmanposted 8 years ago

    This is something I swear I will never understand, I guess I'm not supposed to.

    1. Falsor Wing profile image78
      Falsor Wingposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Baaaad joojoo you best not be meddlin in tings men ain't meant to understand, you hear me?

    2. Jeff Berndt profile image89
      Jeff Berndtposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      I'm a bit curious about it myself.

      I get that duplicate content = bad.

      I get that "quality writing" = good.

      I get that there are rating buttons. (Corollary: if someone takes a dislike to you, they can downrate all your hubs, and probably create multiple accounts to re-downrate them, get their friends to downrate them, &c. They could also uprate them in the same way if they take a liking to you.)

      It seems to me that the more extra stuff you slap on to your hub, the "better" it becomes. More JPGs, more .wav files, more more more. I don't get this, myself, but hey. We grew up watching Sesame Street and have short attention spans. Maybe lots of dancing baloney drives traffic?

      But I have noticed that the top-rated hubbers all have a lot of hubs, and they're very well-written (in spite of the sometimes gratuitous inclusion of other media). My advice: write more, and write well. You'll reap the rewards.

      Also, tell your friends about your hubs. It's okay to self-market. Don't be shy. Tell the world about the awesome new article you wrote and published. If it's good, they'll tell their friends. And so on, and so on...

      1. Harvey Stelman profile image60
        Harvey Stelmanposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        Jeff,

        Have you ever lookded at your profile, clicked to a Forum, clicked back to your profile and find your score went down 3 points?

        I've seen this many times, though it's usually one point.

        1. Jeff Berndt profile image89
          Jeff Berndtposted 8 years agoin reply to this

          Yeah, I've seen my score inexplicably fluctuate. I dunno why it does, I just take it as read that it will.

      2. Lisa HW profile image65
        Lisa HWposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        Jeff, I'm wondering what you mean by "gratuitous inclusion of other media"?  hmm

        Separate from that, I have to say that it looks to me material that is carefully written and not necessarily aimed at a short attention span often seems to be rated well.  I think if a lot of people are like me, they don't care so much what a Hub is about, and may vote up if they see that (even they're not interested in it) the Hubber aimed to put together a decent-quality piece of writing.

        I'm "big" for media, though - which is I why I wouldn't mind expanding on that part of your discussion.  smile

      3. Marisa Wright profile image96
        Marisa Wrightposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        Jeff, I can reassure you on that point.  It came up recently and Paul Deeds explained that one thumbs up/down on a Hub doesn't make much difference at all, so even if someone has it in for you, they can't do much damage.



        That makes sense to me.  HubPages isn't just about writing, it's about creating an attractive, informative magazine-style article.  Magazines always have illustrations and a nicely designed layout!

        Youtube videos are always good, because they keep visitors on your page longer, and you get a free backlink at Youtube. RSS feeds, News feeds and references (all hidden at the bottom of your Hub, below the comments) make you more popular with Google.

        As for the rest - I've never added a wav, poll, quiz or any of that stuff, and my score ain't doing too bad!

  2. Pandoras Box profile image64
    Pandoras Boxposted 8 years ago

    Jeff, regarding up and down ratings- in response to some of the recent forum drama, a HP staffer commented that the down ratings have very little effect on hub scores.

    Not sure if that is good or not, but it would make it very difficult for someone to play games of the type you mention.

    1. Jeff Berndt profile image89
      Jeff Berndtposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Oh, that's reassuring. I'm glad that someone can't wreck your score out of spite.

      1. Harvey Stelman profile image60
        Harvey Stelmanposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        Jeff,

        Nice reply.

  3. marcel285 profile image63
    marcel285posted 8 years ago

    I think the system is good and makes perfect sense.

    1. Harvey Stelman profile image60
      Harvey Stelmanposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      marcel,

      I remember Marcel from (FRIENDS"; you are not Marcel! OOPS, you use a small m.

      1. marcel285 profile image63
        marcel285posted 8 years agoin reply to this

        Hhaha yeah i've been hassled about that before!!

  4. earnestshub profile image88
    earnestshubposted 8 years ago

    The amount of juice you get from google seems to have an effect on my hubscore. When the bigger markets are all tucked up in bed, my score often drops overnight, only to refurbish itself in the morning! smile

  5. Harvey Stelman profile image60
    Harvey Stelmanposted 8 years ago

    Yesterday I wrote another Hub, received a bunch of comments and played on the Forums for some time. For all this activity my score was lowered two points.

    1. relache profile image85
      relacheposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      I don't know where you got this deluded idea that commenting and making posts makes your score go down.  If that were the case, how come the most vocal and frequent posters don't have single digit scores?

      Given how much you seem to be upset with how this site works, Harvey, why do you stay here when there are so many other writing/publishing sites out there?

      1. Harvey Stelman profile image60
        Harvey Stelmanposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        rel,

        I never said that! I said this is what has been happening to me, it hasn't happened before.

        I wrote two more Hubs and my score went up one point. The older of the two has received a good amount of hits.

  6. Harvey Stelman profile image60
    Harvey Stelmanposted 8 years ago

    Well it's been a few short hours since I last posted the above. I just answered a few comments and my score was lowered another point. I guess someone thinks a zero would look good next to my name.

    I've written Hub twice and still no answer.

  7. barryrutherford profile image77
    barryrutherfordposted 8 years ago

    Well one thing is for sure your not Robinson Crusoe. My hub score went down from 92 93 to 87 overnight !

    1. Harvey Stelman profile image60
      Harvey Stelmanposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      barry,

      Wrote another Hub, received a bunch of comments and played the Forums. Score went down another point. That's from 91 to 80.

  8. spuds profile image59
    spudsposted 8 years ago

    The hub ranking system is about as mysterious as the Google search ranking system. Just when you think you have it worked out you realise you do not.

    1. Harvey Stelman profile image60
      Harvey Stelmanposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      spuds,

      I am totally perplexed. I'm waiting for my zero.

  9. Marisa Wright profile image96
    Marisa Wrightposted 8 years ago

    The silver lining is that your earnings depend on the search engine ranking system, whereas they don't depend on the hub rating system.

    1. Harvey Stelman profile image60
      Harvey Stelmanposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Marissa,

      With a full of bull TOS months ago, I haven't dropped like this before.  The searches keep coming.

      1. Marisa Wright profile image96
        Marisa Wrightposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        So why is it worrying you?

        1. Harvey Stelman profile image60
          Harvey Stelmanposted 8 years agoin reply to this

          Marisa,

          Not worried, very curious. Wouldn't you be?

  10. bhaskar_c profile image49
    bhaskar_cposted 8 years ago

    Thats right.... good writing gives more rating

    1. Harvey Stelman profile image60
      Harvey Stelmanposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      bha,

      My writing may not be perfect, but I have been published in a magazine.

  11. Dao Hoa profile image61
    Dao Hoaposted 8 years ago

    I am also curious about the spiral downward!

    1. Harvey Stelman profile image60
      Harvey Stelmanposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Dao,

      I went from 91 to 79 in a slow daily mannor.

  12. CASE1WORKER profile image65
    CASE1WORKERposted 8 years ago

    my numbers are going up 91 this morning on 7 hubs but the seo arnt picking up so i think it is academic...... but it gave me some satisfaction

    1. Harvey Stelman profile image60
      Harvey Stelmanposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Case,


      Good for you!

 
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