someone lifted one of my hubs for a blog

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  1. Painted Seahorse profile image95
    Painted Seahorseposted 8 years ago

    Another hubber alerted me to a blog that had lifted paragraphs from one of my hubs word for word without crediting me.

    What can I do about this? Thanks.

    1. TMMason profile image67
      TMMasonposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Are you sure he/she lifted them.?

      It is not unreasonable that two people would think to articulate a subject in the same fashion and vernacular.

      Even if he did there is not much you could do. your word against his. You don't copyright your hubs. So...

      1. Painted Seahorse profile image95
        Painted Seahorseposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        I'm sure. It's word for word the same as my hub.

        1. profile image50
          Ball In Skyposted 8 years agoin reply to this

          PS ~

          I sent you a reply mail explaining how you can have that removed.  And if you have any problems I will gladly help you further with it.

          It IS your work product.

          Best Wishes.

      2. profile image0
        ryankettposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        Sorry but this is the worst advice on Copyright I have ever seen, it takes literally 30 seconds to prove that you published something online before somebody else, all of our hubs are automatically copyrighted, and it is 100% impossible for somebody to accidentally write a whole article of identical words in an identical order. Pretty much everything that you just said is wrong.

        If in doubt, http://hubpages.com/hub/How-To-Deal-With-Plagiarism and yes that is my hubpage, although I consider this a fully solicitored and justified response.

        The internet has its own archive you know, publicly accessible, every single page of indexed content can be searched at the touch of a button with 100% accurate time stamps.

        1. sunforged profile image75
          sunforgedposted 8 years agoin reply to this

          I was just about to say the same thing and point them your way.

          You dont copyright your hubs! Where do you get your information from! (copyright beastie boys "So What'cha Want" ) smile

          1. embitca profile image84
            embitcaposted 8 years agoin reply to this

            Copyright is implicit. You do not need to register a copyright. It already exists the minute you write something and publish it.

            From the US Copyright office:
            When is my work protected?
            Your work is under copyright protection the moment it is created and fixed in a tangible form that it is perceptible either directly or with the aid of a machine or device.

            http://www.copyright.gov/help/faq/faq-g … l#register

            1. sunforged profile image75
              sunforgedposted 8 years agoin reply to this

              you seem to have misread me.

              twas an exclamation of disbelief

      3. Cagsil profile image81
        Cagsilposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        HubPages Copyrights the Hubs, just in case you did not know.

        However, there are some hubbers who suggest going to copyright.com and for more protection.

        With that said, I would contact them and let them know the situation. And, the proof you require is the date of your published hub, providing it has been up longer than the blog.

    2. rebekahELLE profile image86
      rebekahELLEposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      file a complaint and leave a comment if the blog allows comments with a link to your hub. I had to do that once and the guy took it down quickly.

  2. KCC Big Country profile image85
    KCC Big Countryposted 8 years ago

    The site should have a place to file a DMCA complaint.  File a complaint.  Ordinarily, when a complaint is filed, it is removed immediately.

    1. Painted Seahorse profile image95
      Painted Seahorseposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Thanks, I'll look into it.

  3. Painted Seahorse profile image95
    Painted Seahorseposted 8 years ago

    I filed a complaint on the site. Hopefully it'll be removed quickly. Thanks for the help!

    1. profile image50
      Ball In Skyposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      I will keep an eye on it......and let you know if it does not get removed in 24 hours.  But I do think it will now.

      Keep writing.

    2. ReuVera profile image77
      ReuVeraposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      How can you find out that your writing was plagiarized? Any way to do it, besides that somebody catches it by chance?

      P.S. Actually, after I wrote it, I found a hub by ryankett. Thanks.

  4. thisisoli profile image70
    thisisoliposted 8 years ago

    Copyright infringement is illegal, if the blog doesn't take it down the do a DNS lookup (whois.domaintools.com is who I use) and contact the hosting provider (not the domain provider).

    The host will remove the site if the copyrighted content it not removed.

    1. TMMason profile image67
      TMMasonposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Is it copyrighted?

      I don't know.

      But I don't thik so.

      It costs to copyright and I don't know of anyone on here that does it for hubs.

      So I don't think you will have much luck and it isn't illegal to plaigerize.

      1. relache profile image86
        relacheposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        I think you need to read up on copyrights.

        A writer/artist/creator owns the copyrights on their work, even if you don't register them with the copyright department of the government.

        1. TMMason profile image67
          TMMasonposted 8 years agoin reply to this

          we are talking about legal recouse.

          Proof... What you can prove is what counts.

          He denies he stole the work. What is your recouse..."na ah yeah he did." 

          That doesn't cut it.

          1. profile image0
            ryankettposted 8 years agoin reply to this

            And did you bother to read my article? I bet you didn't.

          2. embitca profile image84
            embitcaposted 8 years agoin reply to this

            The timestamp on the hub is proof. Try reading instead of just claiming a bunch of BS.

      2. IzzyM profile image88
        IzzyMposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        Is that what you do? Is that why your author score is so low?

  5. KCC Big Country profile image85
    KCC Big Countryposted 8 years ago

    TMMason...I think you better stop and do some research on that!  You're scaring me!  You've got some bad info.

    1. TMMason profile image67
      TMMasonposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      On what?

      Copyrights.

      it doesn't just appear with the words bro.

      You have to file for it. US copyright office. Now through agreement the Hub pages site might own your work and hold some copyright. But in general, you don't get it copy righted automatically.

      1. KCC Big Country profile image85
        KCC Big Countryposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        Again, you better look into it, TM Mason, and I'm not your bro.

      2. sunforged profile image75
        sunforgedposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        perhaps you should use the google search a bit more.

        You wont come off as so ill informed

        1. Cagsil profile image81
          Cagsilposted 8 years agoin reply to this

          big_smile

        2. TMMason profile image67
          TMMasonposted 8 years agoin reply to this

          And I can get 20 different opinion off google per page.

          So... that isn't the genious idea you all think it is.

          Oh I know that... I googled it.

          1. MyWebs profile image83
            MyWebsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

            Then go to the official U.S. copyright.gov web site and READ and stop spewing out misinformation: When Is My Work Protected

            You probably should go read the whole Copyright FAQ too since your so full of wrong ideas concerning U.S. Copyright law!

            If you take some time to read there you will learn that content is automatically copyrighted "...the moment it is created and fixed in a tangible form..." (this includes online publishing) without having to officially register it.

            1. TMMason profile image67
              TMMasonposted 8 years agoin reply to this

              Yeah thats what I used to believe.

              And that is exactly where I read it when I used to believe it.

              Man get a life.

              1. MyWebs profile image83
                MyWebsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                For one I don't like your attitude and how you come off. You come across as a class A .....

                Two your so full of misinformation it isn't funny.

                Three if your so hard headed not to believe the official U.S. copyright.gov web site there is little hope for you.

                Four HubPages.com does not own the copyright to any of the content published to our hubs. A quick read of the TOU agreement you said you read and agreed to when you signed up here would have educated you to this fact.

                Five You Author score of 20 speaks volumes. I could only guess why your score is so low considering what you believe to be right concerning copyright law and plagiarism.

                1. TMMason profile image67
                  TMMasonposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                  1 I don't care what you like.

                  2 I really don't care for you

                  3 You believe what you want' I did once and will not again.

                  You are a riot. I haven't met anyone as funny as you in about an hour. Give it up and go lecture someone else.

                  Do I have to register with your office to be protected?

                  No. In general, registration is voluntary. Copyright exists from the moment the work is created. You will have to register, however, if you wish to bring a lawsuit for infringement of a U.S. work. See Circular 1, Copyright Basics, section

                  Pay especially close attention to this part...

                  You will have to register, if you wish to bring a lawsuit for infringement of a U.S. work. See Circular 1, Copyright Basics, section

                  Duhh...

                  man you need to read the entire thread and catch up to the rest of us.

                  I don't care about policies... as far as the law is concerned you need a copyright. All of you should read that.

                  Except  you, cyber

                  Wake up.

                  1. MyWebs profile image83
                    MyWebsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                    Yes I forgot everyone here is wrong besides you and Cyber Lawyer. Forgive my ignorance.

                    Besides the only point Cyber agreed with you on was that a copyright was needed to file a suit.

                    It is not needed to enforce copyrighted content through a DMCA action.

                    There is nothing in copyright law that says you must register the moment content is published. It actually says if it is registered within the first 5 years this is considered prima facie evidence in a court of law.

      3. embitca profile image84
        embitcaposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        No, you do not. This is word for word from the US Copyright office.

        When is my work protected?
        Your work is under copyright protection the moment it is created and fixed in a tangible form that it is perceptible either directly or with the aid of a machine or device.

        http://www.copyright.gov/help/faq/faq-g … l#register

  6. TMMason profile image67
    TMMasonposted 8 years ago

    I don't have to lok into it KC. You let me know when you get any kind of penalty for this plaigerism, or intellectual theft.

    I don't see it happening.

    I have copyrights and they didn't just appear. Yes you can think.. "well I typed it and the date is on the computer, or in the file of hubpages etc. But in the end. If you didn't copyright a piece of work and someone steals it, then goodluck on redress and recovery.

    I just don't see much for recouse... if you can do it... fine. But...

    1. KCC Big Country profile image85
      KCC Big Countryposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      I've had plenty of dealings with my stuff being copied and have filed complaints and had it removed.  The system works. You don't have to file for copyright for your work to be protected.  Read up on it before you just assume.  Many of us have had personal dealings with it to know.

      1. TMMason profile image67
        TMMasonposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        I don't really care KCC. Why is it you are so hard on to get this across. If you can get it removed... fine. Then do it and stop complaining about it.

        1. KCC Big Country profile image85
          KCC Big Countryposted 8 years agoin reply to this

          I'm not complaining about it. Several of us were helping the person who started this thread when you came in with incorrect info.  I have merely been trying to HELP YOU out! You have been mis-informed.

          1. TMMason profile image67
            TMMasonposted 8 years agoin reply to this

            I was the first post here man.

            Check your watch.

            To bad if you don't like the info I posted.

            1. IzzyM profile image88
              IzzyMposted 8 years agoin reply to this

              When the 'info' you posted was blatantly wrong, it would have been better if you hadn't posted at all.

              1. TMMason profile image67
                TMMasonposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                I still don't think it is wrong.

                I even mentioned hubpages may have a copyrioght on it...

                Read before you speak.

                I have seen nothing that shows me it is wrong.

                Again...

                He denies he stole the work. What is your recouse..."na ah yeah he did."

                1. Cyber Lawyer profile image61
                  Cyber Lawyerposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                  TMMason does have a point. While registering copyright is not a precondition for enjoying copyright protection, registration for US publishers/authors with the US Copyright Office is a precondition for filing suit.

                  So filing suit could be a problem for most publishers on this site, and so far I'd say TMMason has a point.

                  In practice, however, that is not the relevant point here. It is about getting the duplicated material taken down, and here others have amply explained that no registration of copyright is required and there are procedures in place to see to that.

                  1. TMMason profile image67
                    TMMasonposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                    Thank you.

                    And I am not trying to be smug. I now the blogger and the site have thier policies, but legally is another matter.

            2. KCC Big Country profile image85
              KCC Big Countryposted 8 years agoin reply to this



              I agree that you were the first to post here.  You stated incorrect information and I simply pointed out that you might want to check on it. 

              I'm done with this subject.  You can believe what you want to believe.  The original poster got the information she needed and she's taken the steps to get the copied material removed.

        2. DevLin profile image59
          DevLinposted 8 years agoin reply to this

          What's with you today? Earlier posts on this trhread already said, hubpages has their own copyright. Get a clue.

          1. TMMason profile image67
            TMMasonposted 8 years agoin reply to this

            TMMasonposted 54 minutes agoin reply to this
            On what?

            Copyrights.

            it doesn't just appear with the words bro.

            You have to file for it. US copyright office. Now through agreement the Hub pages site might own your work and hold some copyright. But in general, you don't get it copy righted automatically.


            You see what it says about hubpages copyright...

            read my posts before you spout.

  7. Uninvited Writer profile image83
    Uninvited Writerposted 8 years ago

    Didn't you know that TM is never wrong? He is the authority on absolutely everything.

    1. TMMason profile image67
      TMMasonposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Another one who doesn't read the copyright laws.

      Your own postings from the office prove my point. if you want legal recourse you must have a copyright.

      Look here is the link to US copyright office. And note what it says;

      Do I have to register with your office to be protected?

      No. In general, registration is voluntary. Copyright exists from the moment the work is created. You will have to register, however, if you wish to bring a lawsuit for infringement of a U.S. work. See Circular 1, Copyright Basics, section

      Pay especially close attention to this part...

      You will have to register, if you wish to bring a lawsuit for infringement of a U.S. work. See Circular 1, Copyright Basics, section

      So. You may be okay to get it off a site. But you have no standing in a court of law.

      But.

      You all know best.

      http://www.copyright.gov/help/faq/faq-g … tml#mywork

      And lets not skip this part.

      Why should I register my work if copyright protection is automatic?

      Registration is recommended for a number of reasons. Many choose to register their works because they wish to have the facts of their copyright on the public record and have a certificate of registration. Registered works may be eligible for statutory damages and attorney's fees in successful litigation. Finally, if registration occurs within 5 years of publication, it is considered prima facie evidence in a court of law.

    2. MyWebs profile image83
      MyWebsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      "Yeah thats what I used to believe. And that is exactly where I read it when I used to believe it." (in reference to copyright.gov links)

      Yes he is right and the official U.S. copyright.gov web site I quote is wrong according to him.

      Funny how after I posted links to the copyright.gov site now he is quoting it like he believes what he earlier said was wrong. What a head case.

      Or is it right now that he is also quoting it? Who knows or much less cares?

  8. IzzyM profile image88
    IzzyMposted 8 years ago

    Oh? I just thought it was maybe a full moon! lol

  9. IzzyM profile image88
    IzzyMposted 8 years ago

    And YOU only mentioned legal recourse about three posts back! Read back to the start of the thread and see what you wrote. You were wrong! Just admit it man! If you meant to say 'legal recourse' you missed the words out.

  10. IzzyM profile image88
    IzzyMposted 8 years ago

    Hey TM your score went up from 18 to 20 today. Do you think that's because of your forum participation? cool

    1. TMMason profile image67
      TMMasonposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Thats exactly what it is cause of it Izzy.

      I have not been on here in months so my score plummeted. I was always at 86 or 89, when I came back again it was one. Cosette and marine and some others know I have been here before.

      So yes Izzy.

    2. rebekahELLE profile image86
      rebekahELLEposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      lol 

      more likely the charming personality.

      1. MyWebs profile image83
        MyWebsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        big_smile big_smile big_smile

        If that was the case then HP staff would need to add negative numbers to the ranking scale. smile

  11. sunforged profile image75
    sunforgedposted 8 years ago

    Ive just been reading some Oscar Wilde "Dont suffer fools gladly"
    it may be off topic but figured I would share anyway

  12. TMMason profile image67
    TMMasonposted 8 years ago

    Again.

    If they, the thief or the site, refuses to take it down.

    You have no recourse unless copyrighted.

    You don't like it.

    Too bad.

    Take it up with the court.

    Coversation is over.

    1. MyWebs profile image83
      MyWebsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Yes you do have recourse. Then you go to the web hosting company as they all have rules against copyright infringement. IF they refuse to help then most likely they are only a reseller and you go to  the web hosting company they use.

      While some people may think TOU rules don't matter and they can do what they want the vast majority of companies enforce these rules, lest they get sued in court.

      I'm sorry but you don't dictate when any conversation is over with here. Not your web site nor your forums.

      1. TMMason profile image67
        TMMasonposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        Conversation is over myweb...

        You don't have any legal recourse if the thief claims it as his.

        That is just a fact.

        1. MyWebs profile image83
          MyWebsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

          Once again your wrong. But this happens so often you should be used to it by now.

          There are multiple ways I can prove I published my content first and I am the original owner. The thief will have nothing because they stole it.

          You keep saying legal recourse. But in fact there are effective ways to fight back which don't involve a court room. You can keep trying to change the subject all day....

  13. TMMason profile image67
    TMMasonposted 8 years ago

    The conversation is over dude.

    I have already been through the stolen intellectual property thing. You are not telling me anything. Nor are you safe in your lil delusion.

    I hope you enjoy it when it occurs.

  14. IzzyM profile image88
    IzzyMposted 8 years ago

    Re-arrange these words into a well-known sentence

    Brick wall....banging...off...head...your...like...it's..a.   roll

    1. TMMason profile image67
      TMMasonposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      I just don't understand how you all get obsessed over the fact that I won't agree with you.

      I think it is halarious, Izzy.

      I slept like a baby last nite.... not a care in the world about who copyrights and who doesn't.

      I do.

      hahahah

      Anyway how has you morning been so far Iz? I hope all is well in your life. It is nice to discuss things regardless of how any of us see them.

      1. profile image0
        ryankettposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        You are a class A idiot, yet you seem to want to pick a fight with others and yet not with me. Now, repeat 100 times...

        ALL HUBS ARE COPYRIGHTED
        ALL HUBS ARE COPYRIGHTED
        ALL HUBS ARE COPYRIGHTED...

        Perhaps then you can learn....

        THE INTERNET ARCHIVE CAN PROVE PUBLISHING TIMES
        THE INTERNET ARCHINE CAN PROVE PUBLISHING TIMES
        THE INTERNET ARCHIVE CAN PROVE PUBLISHING TIMES

        And then maybe....

        HOSTING COMPANIES REMOVE COPIED CONTENT
        HOSTING COMPANIES REMOVE COPIED CONTENT
        HOSTING COMPANIES REMOVE COPIED CONTENT

        And then perhaps...

        ADSENSE BANS CHEATS
        ADSENSE BANS CHEATS
        ADSENSE BANS CHEATS.....

        Perhaps rather than pointing you in the direction of my comprehensive article, I should have started with the elementary stuff, don't worry you will catch up with the rest of us one day.

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