Suggestion for Traffic reports

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   DzyMsLizzyposted 14 years ago

   Hi-
     I was noticing that the traffic source reports include Twitter and Tweet Grid, but not Tweet Deck.
   
      I normally use Tweet Deck, because it is much more user-friendly, and auto-refreshes (unlike Twitter home).  Also, as with Tweet Grid, anything posted there does feed over into Twitter main.  Tweet Grid is a PITA to use--it doesn't remember your settings, (that I've been able to figure out), and it seems most of the time, you have to manually re-enter your user name for each post.  This is very time-consuming.
   
      So--in any case, since both of these services feed the posts directly into Twitter, where it CAN be read on Twitter main...I don't see the point of making a distinction at all between these sources.
   
      Why, then, would any post I send in/promote via Tweet Deck not be reflected in my traffic sources?  It ends up on Twitter regardless.
   
      Yet, while I KNOW that I have gotten traffic from my TD posts, I see fewer than those in my account report for Twitter.
   
      So--I guess my question/suggestion is--since there does seem to be a distinction able to be made, can you add Tweet DECK to the list??  Thanks!

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      Pcunixposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      It isn't a traffic source unless someone reading it on Twitter clicks through to your hub.  I don't know if you meant to imply this, but it sounded like you thought just putting it on Twitter caused it to be a source?

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         DzyMsLizzyposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Oh, my bad.. No, I pretty much understand that it's not going to show up as a source unless someone arrives here via a click-through.

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   DzyMsLizzyposted 14 years ago

   Hellloooooo???   Is anyone here???? This question/suggestion is 4 weeks old, and no reply....
   
   Does this particular forum topic get read, but not get replies? 
   
   Just curious....

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      Aficionadaposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Since I don't use any of these (yet) - twitter, etc. - I can't comment on the exact situation you have mentioned.  But it seems to me that it is a question that is actually directed more towards the staff than towards other Hubbers.  Granted, it is often very useful to have other Hubbers comment on the questions we want to send to the staff, but.....
      
      Since no one did comment (maybe this question/forum/thread just got lost before anyone did), why don't you simply e-mail the staff with the question?  There may be a logical reason for the way these are reported or not reported.
      
      I do know that in the traffic stats, a source does not show up at all until there are at least five visitors from that specific source.

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   2uesdayposted 14 years ago

   If you want a more accurate idea of your traffic sources - and further information then google analytics is the best way to go.
   
   Other people may find traffic sources figures accurate but I do not, I see it more as an indicator.

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   Marisa Wrightposted 14 years ago

   Miss Lizzy, when you look at Analytics can you see results from Tweetdeck?
   
   Personally, I wouldn't have expected to see results from either Tweetgrid OR Tweetdeck, since I thought both services were just a method to post on Twitter.  So whether you post through TG or TD, the post doesn't reside on those sites - it's actually sent to Twitter and that's where people can read it.
   
   Obviously I'm wrong, since you're getting traffic from TG.  Maybe Tweetdeck works differently and doesn't host a copy of the tweet?

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   DzyMsLizzyposted 14 years ago

   Hi, everyone--
   
   Thanks for your input.  From the title of this particular forum being "Report a Problem or Suggest a New Feature,"  I thought it was directed at staff for them to read.  I guess I was mistaken, there.  (Or, the forum category is mis-named.)
   
     From what I understand, Tweet Grid is online, and Tweet Deck is a download that resides on your computer.  No matter--posts from there still show up on my main Twitter account, if I happen to sign in directly...so I do not see why there should be any distinction in the first place.  ::: shrug :::
   
      As far as Google Analytics go, it gives me a headache!  I cannot figure out, despite having read instructions from several sources, how to make it see more than one site.  I have it for my Etsy shop, and I cannot make it work for my blog, or for here.
   
      Supposedly, you paste their code onto either a certain page or on each page of the site you want reviewed...but on here, I see no place to paste any such code where it would be 'behind the scenes' and not visible as some kind of crazy post or errant code text within my profile.
   
      (On my blog, I've put the code, as directed, and it just plain does not work...the blog remains invisible/ignored by
   G-A.)
   
       On my Etsy site, I've looked at G-A a few times, and have not really found it terribly helpful.  Either I don't understand what it is telling me (there are some fairly esoteric and jargon-y terms in there about which I have no clue).
   
      I'm no techie, so I don't understand all that code/html/java and jargon....
   
      Hub Pages is the only site on which the traffic source seems to "matter."   over 76% of mine is internal from HP itself.  On my Etsy site, all that matters to me is, 'does my stuff sell?'  Where the traffic or ultimate sales come from is of little importance.  I do not care if it is another Etsian who made the purchase.  It's still a purchase, and it still counts.
   
      Only here, on HP, does it seem to affect us if the traffic is not from external sources. Apparently, I still have much to learn.  (Sorry for the lengthy ramble...)

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      Aficionadaposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      No, you are right, I'm pretty sure, that the staff does monitor this forum; but I just don't think it is as fast, and it certainly is not as direct, as e-mailing them.  My assumption (and it is only that, mind you) is that in this forum the problems and features reported or suggested are open for everyone to comment on and to weigh in on, and as a result  sometimes, when that is done, the OP changes their mind about a suggestion they had made. 
      
      Since this forum thread got buried or lost originally, it's possible that it was assumed that there was not much support for the idea.  Or maybe it just simply got "lost" and the staff didn't see it.  Such things do sometimes happen.

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         DzyMsLizzyposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Thanks, Aficionada,
         
         Gosh--Ain't technology grand? 
         
         Trying to recall how I spent my days before computers....  hmmm. let's see....gosh, that was a long time ago...

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            Aficionadaposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            
            
            -- You're welcome! 
            
            -- Grand, indeed!
            
            -- A long time ago... yep.... let's see:
            
            B.C. = Before Computer
            B.C.E. = Before Computers Existed
            A.D. = After Dell
            C.E. = Computer Era
            
                 

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      Marisa Wrightposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      MsLizzy, think about your first paragraph for a minute. If Tweetgrid is online, that means anything you post on there is visible to other people and they can follow the link to your Hub.  If TweetDeck is on your own computer, how can anyone else see what you posted on it? 
      
      TweetDeck is just a thing you use, personally, to post a tweet on Twitter. So the only place people can see that tweet is on Twitter, hence you will never see TweetDeck as a traffic source.
      
      You paste your Google Analytics website ID (the number starting with UA-) in the "Affiliate settings" section of "My account".  Here's the instructions:
      
      http://hubpages.com/faq/#googleanalytics
      
      Finally, you are right about external traffic.  On HubPages, you make money when people click on your ads.  People don't join HubPages to read, they join to write - so other Hubbers aren't usually looking to buy anything.  Therefore they very rarely click on ads. 
      
      For instance,the only time I click on an ad is if I want to buy something from Amazon - then I figure I might as well give someone the commission, and I'll click on someone's Amazon ad (not worrying what it's for) and go and find what I want.
      
      I suspect Etsy is a bit different, because people who make crafts are often interested in buying crafts made by others.

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         DzyMsLizzyposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Hi, Marisa,
         
         LOL--yes, I realize that 'reads funny,' but my point was, since it ends up on Twitter anyway, why make any distinction between Tweet Grid and Twitter?  It ALL ends up ON Twitter.   
         
         Thanks for the directions for G-A--I'll read that and try again.
         
         
         Cheers...

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         DzyMsLizzyposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Hi, Marisa--
         
         OK--here's where I ran into trouble--at first, I had read that I should put my profile URL into G-A ...  and I had done so. 
         
         I just went back to check my G-A status, and it says "tracking not installed."  So, I edited it to just Hub Pages, generically, which is what it seems to tell me on that link you provided..
         
         Then, I went to the bottom of the edit settings page, and clicked on  "Yes, this profile should receive AdSense data"  .. and  THIS is what I got:
         
         
         Paste this code at the top of any webpage in this domain that contains AdSense ads. <script type="text/javascript">
         window.google_analytics_uacct = "UA-7743234-6";
         </script>
         Be sure to leave the Google Analytics tracking code at the bottom of your pages.
         
         THAT's the code I was talking about, that I see NOWHERE on here to place any such thing, and not have it fully visible to any visitor.

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            DzyMsLizzyposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            Whoops--guess I should have blanked that out... did not realize it was going to include...my full acct
            
            Crud!  THAT's why forum posts should be editable, like hub comments!!

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               WryLiltposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               Forum posts ARE editable for a short amount of time. Click "more" at the bottom then "edit".
               
               http://hubpages.com/faq/#googleanalytics There are some basics.
               
               Also, in regards to your problem as mentioned above -
               
               When you reach the page that gives you that code, ignore the code,  instead at the top of the page it should say "Tracking not installed." There should be a button to click beside that to check again. It can take a little while so go back and just keep clicking the check again part.
               
               If you've signed out of GA, once you sign back in click "Edit" next to your hubpages part and then click to check tracking again. As long as you have the code "UA-7743234-6" in the HP affiliates box, it will eventually work.

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                  DzyMsLizzyposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                  Thanks, Wry Lilt
                  
                  I had installed G-A over a month ago--it still says "not installed"
                  
                  I did not know that there was 'edit' under 'more'  ... it should be more obvious--as it is on the hub comments..  :-(  grrrr.

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                     WryLiltposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                     So as of this minute it isn't working? You don't have a contact button on your profile but if you email me through mine I'll be happy to help you step by step if you want. GA is definitely worth it, especially for keeping track of information HP doesn't and also of adsense if you're too lazy to set up channels (like me) or have over two hundred hubs.

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            Marisa Wrightposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            Ignore that.  Just take the UA- number and paste it into your Affiliates section under "My Account".  Then try testing it again.

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