Best Approach For Hubpages Success With Adsense

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   sid_candidposted 13 years ago

   I was just thinking what is the best approach for success with Adsense. Before you say the same old things about SEO and keywords Here are the two approaches:
   
   Person A publishes 800-1000 hubs in a year with little keyword research and some SEO optimization.
   
   Person B publishes 100-200 hubs in the whole year but does a lot of SEO and keyword research.
   
   Who would be more successful at the end of the year?

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      Mutiny92posted 13 years agoin reply to this

      I too have wondered about that.  Is an "inch deep and a mile wide" better than "a mile deep and an inch wide"?

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      Mike's Cornerposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Wow, interesting question. I've only been here a month, so I don't think I'm qualified to answer, but I'd be really interested to see what some veterans have to say on the subject.

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      Marisa Wrightposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Definitely Person B, IF (and it's a big if) they truly understand how to do keyword research.  An awful lot of people get it horribly wrong and wind up chasing the same stuff as everyone else. 
      
      By the law of averages, if Person A writes over a wide range of subjects, they're almost bound to hit on a decent keyword here and there by accident.

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      kowalityposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Person B on a good day. But person A could get lucky on some of the articles. It would be a close one.
      
      The type of products you promote has a lot to do with your income. Items that cost more more click will bring you more income than something that costs the advertiser 3 cents per click.

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   rmcrayneposted 13 years ago

   When I saw the title of your post, I thought something like “Oh brother!  Yet another hubber expecting an easy answer in a forum post, when there are thousands of hubs on different aspects of the subject.” 
   
   When I opened the thread, I was pleasantly surprised!  I have pondered this very question many times! 
   
   I’ve tried to read and learn, but I don’t have the background or motivation to be a “sunforged” or a “Misha”.  And unfortunately I’ve returned to work part-time, so I’m not going to be a prolific “habee” either.

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   sid_candidposted 13 years ago

   I am looking forward to more response. This thread should make for some interesting reading especially if experienced hubbers give their views and opinions.

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   CASE1WORKERposted 13 years ago

   i dont know is the answer. I  would like to think that the numbers approach would eventually pay off. However if you are like me you dont have the time to make the numbers. Looking for key words bores me to tears and back linking- oh my....... so it looks like it is down to dame chance which is probably why i dont get as many hits as i could ( not that i am complaining as i prefer the natural rather than forced style)

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   lrohnerposted 13 years ago

   I guarantee you that Person B will be better off in the long run. Not only do I believe they would make as if not much, much more money than the person who wrote 800 to 1000 hubs non-researched hubs, but hopefully they were engaging in other money-making activities while Person A churned all those hubs out!

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   leahleflerposted 13 years ago

   I definitely think it would depend on the quality of the hubs, at least for Person A. 1000 poorly written hubs aren't likely to generate anything, and if the articles are all for low CPC amounts, they probably won't earn much.
   
   If person B does good research and generates high quality hubs with research into high-earning keywords, he will most likely earn the most over the year.
   
   Of course, there are a lot of people in the middle area: writing articles more researched than person A, but churning out more per year than person B....

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   sunforgedposted 13 years ago

   Lol, Im going to break my arbitrary forum vacation for this one (and I so liked that nice even 5k)
   
   This calender year I will have written probably exactly 200 hubs on the sunforged account and perhaps 60 on my account for "sure things"
   
   I also have approx 60 (maybe more) websites in various states of development, writing, design, searching for affs etc ..participated in two 60 day challenges and have been revamping hubsacademy.com.
   
   So Im actually more like the 800-1000 hubs in a year guy.
   
   In most cases keyword research takes me 30 seconds - look up a term that sparks curiosity, see the serp results, analyze the competition and then in most cases publish a hub anyway - a hub is a great research tool, how does it perform ?, what are the main terms ?- what odd longtails occur etc.
   
   on page seo is easy - to be overly brief - its about accessibility, agreement and focus - can a viewer without sight navigate and understand your page using a screen reader? are your photos properly described - headers relevant etc.
   
   (btw - hubs is very buggy in opera guys!)
   
   off page seo could be the time difference - how and why is your backlink program - but again we are all different, ive always advocated writing at lots of sites, having sites and blogs etc. So developing backlinks is just a natural extension of having a large reach - so again not time intensive.
   
   so to answer the original question - I dont see the point in creating things online that no one will see - if i want to do that i have an art studio and a composition book
   
   but - there is no answer, one persons "a little keyword research" could take the next a week. What tools do they use? (adwords tool is good enough) what type of eye do they have for terms and markets - who is writing terms that attract children or people afraid t take out a cc online - is your design conducive to ctr or purchases - the factors are much larger than what you expressed.
   
   Write more , until you are able to write less
   
   (and OP, do you think, readers who may notice that your profile pic is a wad of cash may be influenced by that somehow - will that give them a positive or negative impression of you? does that engender more or less trust?)

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      Tina Kachanposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      "Write more , until you are able to write less."
      
      uuuuu, I like that line, this will be my motto from now on

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      Pcunixposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Good point.  I don't know how newbies react to that kind of icon, but it is definitely a negative reaction for me.

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   Jule Romansposted 13 years ago

   mmm. I like this thread. I am leaning toward the person B approach. I had been kind of mushing about somewhere in the middle. I now feel I am making progress in some areas, so I am going back and optimizing all my hubs, now that I actually know what it means to keep a page organized and  consistent.
   
   I would say, try a little of both, but don't get caught halfway in between

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   relacheposted 13 years ago

   Sid,
   
   You've been on HubPages for 16 months and made 300 Hubs.  I've been here for 4 years and only made 200.  HubPages interviewed me as one of their success stories, and you've been posting about not earning hardly anything. 
   
   Which strategy do you think works better?

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      Pcunixposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      
      
      Let me take it from a different slant, though: which would you enjoy more?
      
      I write what I feel like writing about and have been doing that for a long, long time. I earn about $10,000 a year from Adsense and have earned over $70,000 overall.  I do NOT research keywords or do much in the way of backlinking (FB and Twitter are pretty much all, and most f the time I haven't even bothered with that).
      
      I DO recommend the research/link methods, if you like doing it or can stomach it for the sake of making more money. But that does take time and effort too. I bet Relache works at her research much, much harder than I work at my writing.

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         relacheposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Since I just write about things that are part of my off-line life, why would I need to do research?
         
         My idea of research is finding a nice low airfare for my next round of travel...

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      TopUniverseposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Fantastic answer and no need to go further down.

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    rebekahELLEposted 13 years ago

    I can't imagine that Person A will do very well, especially since Google and site owners are looking for more rich, well-written, detailed content that will attract advertisers and eliminating poorly written, spammy type articles.

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    Bill Manningposted 13 years ago

    Well, your main question was "I was just thinking what is the best approach for success with Adsense".
    
    So with that in mind, the best thing is to make your own website that is built around adsense.
    
    Meaning pick a keyword that pays well with adsense yet is not overly promoted, get a domain name with that keyword, use Wordpress and pick a theme compatible with the best adsense ad displays.
    
    That's the best way.

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    The Donkeyposted 13 years ago

    Wow, really good question. That's a toughie.
    I'd have to go with Person B though. I would think Person B would receive more recognition in the community. But, what do I know? I've only accumulated 55 followers in a year.

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       Marisa Wrightposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       Donkey, you've got a lot to learn if you think "recognition in the community" and followers have anything to do with earning money.
       
       Just to explain - Hubbers do not click on ads.  You make your money by attracting search engine traffic, not community traffic.
       The point of the community is to socialise,and to learn from other Hubbers, and that's about it.

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    KJS411posted 13 years ago

    Great question and even better answers from the hubbers. I started publishing hubs as more of a hobby and wind down from the typical stressful work day. However, the more I read about success stories of individuals making a few bucks (or more than a few) through Adsense, Amazon, etc., I figured why not continue to have fun writing hubs but utilize some of the strategies and recommendations to pull a buck or two. I like what Bill wrote about creating a website and wonder if there are any free sites where a webpage can be created? If there are do they take a percentage of the revenue? Thanks.

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       Marisa Wrightposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       KJ, the whole point of creating a website is so YOU can keep control of the whole enterprise.  If you start a website using a free service, they still have control so there's no point - you're better off sticking with HubPages.
       
       The time to create a website is when you're sure you've found a subject you want to write about (either because it makes money or you're passionate about it), and you've learned as much as you can on HubPages about SEO, promotion etc.
       
       The reason is this - start a new website and (unlike HubPages) no one will read it unless you know how to set it up and promote it effectively.  So although you get to keep all the earnings, there won't be much to keep!
       
       A percentage of earnings on a site like HubPages is better than 100% of nothing.

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          KJS411posted 13 years agoin reply to this

          thanks Marissa. Valid points and I don't have the time to invest in a website anyway. Even more importantly I don't have a specific product or service I am selling except to drive traffic to my hubs. Thanks for your reply.

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