I am working on my websites, adding content and trying to get them rank high in Google.
Pretty much the same story here. I am going a bit better but recovery seems very slow.
my hubs are getting a spring clean - removing any rss feeds, useless tags, been unlinking ready to split some long hubs. Not sure if co-incidence, but traffic has doubled since done that
I have eliminated all my useless, non-traffic generated hubs. The sales hubs I did have are also gone, due to lack of productivity.
I've fine tuned my keywords on many hubs, so as to make them more targeted to search terms.
@Cagsil, how could any of those hubs be useless? The Panda has not yet settled, A lot of changes indeed. Many SEO techniques seem to have been floored by Google new algorithm. But believe me, quality content will always stand after all these dance and worrisome hits. I've also refused to be worried about the Monopoly of Google where the seem to put writers and publishers in the dark. We rather put on the light to see well.
Andrew, there is no need for the "@" when replying to my post. By replying to my post, you are addressing me. Secondly, the hubs that were useless, were non-traffic generating . I would have figured you would have understood that. If there were no traffic before the Panda change, then there was no reason to continue to have faith that anything would change after Panda.
There actually isn't any evidence in your statement. White hat, Black hat and Gray hat? Please clarify which you think were floored.
Quality content all by itself isn't good enough, and to think it is, is ridiculous.
Many people are not in the dark about it and Some are. As for not worrying about the "Monopoly" of Google? Good for you.
Less traffic ought not to make them useless, anyway it's your noble choice to eliminate them. Similar Pandas' have come and gone in years past. We've taken and applied stipulated measures by Google and HubPages Team yet the traffic is about to go up as we all have expected it till now. I'm also pretty sure of HubPages bouncing back to her Super High web traffic status soonest. No one is actually kept in the dark about this, but we have seen so much worries about this usual google panda across the online communities globally. I realy cease to Google panda nor thinker more on my hubs. HaPPy Hubbing!
Since Panda......well, still writing, just only posting humorous hubs instead of the ones I had planned.
I mean, if I will not get the traffic I am seeking for the hubs I had planned, I will either hire someone to help me build a website or search until I find a place I can receive the traffic and some income from.
I have hubs that do OK here and will continue with those type of hubs and maybe more fun hubs. When I do build a website, there are quite a few hubs I will move there of course.
I like the idea of fun hubs.
I try my hand at one fairly regularly just to enjoy being a bit silly, and ignore the idea of making money from them.
Funny thing is, some of these un-key worded silly hubs work to bring in income!
You don't need to hire someone to make a website for you. Buy hosting from a host that provides one-click install of wordpress and the rest is pretty much like hubbing. And I am personally not in favor of moving hubs, you should write new fresh stuff for your website.
I only mentioned hiring someone so I could get the site up, optimized for SEO and Earnings quicker than going the learn-as-you-go-route.
There are a lot of hubs I would not move from here. I enjoy writing here and the people I have gotten to know.
Just would place more emphasis on certain niche on a web and only move those Hubs that would fit the web better-money wise.
I doubled up on my Prozac! Kidding. I don't take Prozac, but maybe I should. lol
I think hp may be onto something with regard to podcasts... Also, changed direction. Ebooks and a website that could possibly work.
Done something long overdue - woken up and smelled the coffee about my own personal future as regards earning a living online, and made appropriate plans. I've realised that I don't want to entrust any more of my writing to a third party than I already have done (no offence, HP), and that I'm not cut out to be a stand-alone SEO guru/webmaster. Hence I will be concentrating the bulk of my efforts on earning via sites like Elance.
I don't plan to take down more than a few of my hubs (unless the goalposts get moved yet again in an unpleasant enough way), and I do have a couple of my own sites that I'm developing, but I now realise that my hubs and my own sites together will never do more than earn beer money for me, and act as an online CV.
Empress, you sound like Panda has been good for you, in a crazy kind of way!
I realized long ago that I wasn't comfortable playing all the games required of a SEO guru/webmaster. That's why I went back to the real working world, although I'm still trying to find my niche. Best of luck with your new direction1
Yes, you're so right about Panda having been good for me - although I didn't think so when it first hit LOL.
I totally agree with you about the SEO games. Much as I slagged PCunix off about his "whiter-than-white" attitude to SEO, I do think he had a point about the way in which SEO practices like non-organic backlinking and article spinning lessen the quality of Internet searching for normal users.
When I do an Internet search myself, I can tell straight away whether the keywords I've used are high paying ones in Adsense terms - all you find at the top of the SERPs are dodgy blogs/content farm articles! Of course, the ultimate culprit in this is (whisper it low) Google Adsense itself. People wouldn't attempt to game a system if the system didn't exist in the first place.
With all due respect to PCunix, he was absent from the forums for quite some time, the reason was he was trying to fix his site after the ravages of Panda. I do believe that PCunix practices what he preaches and therefore believe the problems he encountered had nothing to do with linking.
In contrast, I have sites of my own which receive regular links none of them were negatively affected by Panda, in fact some improved significantly.
IMO,Panda has changed nothing as far as backlinking is concerned. What worked before works today. However, the quality of your content and where you place it are more important than ever.
I believe that PC Unix's criticism of dodgy SEO came before the second round of panda, when his personal website was hammered. I wonder if he will be a little more flexible now in his approach? hehe!
To be fair to him, I believe that his main criticism was against out and out black hat SEO techniques, rather than backlink generation which is more grey hat than black hat - although google will ignore artificially generated backlinks if dicoverd, they really pan websites that use underhand technical methods with sanctions.
I didn't have a problem with his criticism of "dodgy SEO." It was his definition of it that I disagreed with.
Could I ask what do you mean in your first reply by "where you place it" in regard to content, Peter?
I think putting new content on sites that have been damaged by Panda might not be the best strategy. Not only will it be difficult to get rankings and traffic, any links from these documents are probably going to be devalued somewhat as well.
Paul, PCUnix was against any kind of non-organic backlinking. He felt that creating your own backlinks was unethical, and you should rely on your reputation to create them organically.
You and I obviously think very much alike! I also "had a go" at PCUnix because he was too black-and-white for me, but I also couldn't bring myself to get involved in the backlinking and spinning games, which create so much cr@p on the internet.
I have read many articles on what needs to be done to hubs to respond to Panda, but all of them appear to be very general. Are there any good sources that will give specific pointers on how hubs should be edited to get google rank back up?
I took time off from HP for several weeks and worked on owned sites, which seems to be paying off.
Those of us that have small to mid-sized niche sites or blogs could benefit from panda.
Although I lost most of my Google traffic, I have noticed some recent traffic from Bing on several hubs, which is encouraging.
Recently, I have done some common sense updating to hubs and am continuing to interlink where ever possible.
As usual, diversification seems to be a good practice.
That makes two of us; maybe we should start a group named
"Negative Panda Effect"!! Motto: You can run, but we can't hide
Same here. All the stuff about quality matters appears to be nonsense.
The hit on hubpages has been universal. There is no signs of recovery. [http://www.quantcast.com/hubpages.com].
I have shifted my focus to my own sites.
I am working through the five stages of grief.
Acceptance - post-Panda seems to be the new paradigm. It has given me the kick-in-the-rear to set up my own sites and move on.
My son made a video for me
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFnV3M1Y … r_embedded
Working on my websites but still Hubbing. I have an addictive personality.
Trying to get my websites ranking higher..I'm ranking 8th on page one of Google for a 22,000 a month keyword, need to get higher
Nothing much. Amended six hubs that had the amazon/fifty words issue. That's all.
I'm however slowing down on writing new hubs until it all blows over (if it ever will).
Google has completely ravaged my earnings. I was peaking at almost ten dollars a day in revenue on my main writing website and am now down to less than two dollars. Trying my best to recover but sadly, things are looking pretty grim right now.
by StormsHalted 6 years ago
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