I'm feeling very discouraged with HP

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   blessedmommyposted 13 years ago

   I'm so confused and upset with my earnings here on HP.  I was going along fine, making around $200 monthly in adsense with only a slight decrease after Panda.  I only had around 64 hubs at the time, so I didn't think that was too bad.
   Then, I enabled HP ads and my adsense almost disappeared (which was to be expected of course) but my HP ads weren't making up for it.  So, I disabled the HP ads and went back to adsense - which was still pitiful in earnings since the switch, so I turned HP ads back on.  I was pleasantly surprised when I began making $6-$7 a day on HP ads and $1-$2 a day on adsense this go round.  So I left it like that for awhile and then out of curiosity switched back to adsense.  (You can't blame me for wanting to get the best rates)!  Anyway, the adsense stayed so low and did not increase at all after I turned HP ads off and one day I only made around 60 cents in adsense and nothing in HP since they were turned off.  I haven't made that low since I was a beginner!  So I switched HP ads back on and have left them, and I've also increased my hubs to around 72.  The result has been less traffic and less earnings for all of my hard work.  Currently, I'm making $1-$2 in adsense and the last few days have only been making around $3 in HP ads.  This is quite a huge drop from what I was used to and this is even after putting such effort toward writing more lately.  I'm at a loss what I should do.  Did the switching back and forth mess something up?  I have never seen such swings in earnings!

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      Jason Menayanposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      I understand, although there are so many day-to-day fluctuations, especially when it comes to AdSense earnings, that I'd advise you to not switch back and forth that often.
      
      If you want to do a relatively safe comparison, you should pick a distinct period of time - a complete M-Su week, for example, but no shorter than a week - and run AdSense only one week, and AdSense + HubPages Ad Program the next week. This is assuming that your traffic now is fairly steady week after week.
      
      I would not recommend the HubPages Ad Program if you are very sensitive to changes to your AdSense revenue, or, naturally, if your testing has shown that you earn more via AdSense alone (that's the case for a number of Hubbers who have reported here).

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      wbfreeposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Count your blessings. You're doing way better than many others.

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         Website Examinerposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Without hubs, the income potential is limited.

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   Mikeydoesposted 13 years ago

   We're all hurting right now. Things will begin to shake themselves out in the future. Hubpages is only the beginning. I wouldn't move a thing or lose sleep over it at the moment. Do research and network for ideas to make yourself money.
   
   I was making great money avg $10+ a day. For a while. Now I'm back to a dollar a day.

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      Dorsiposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      I'm in the same boat - I was making about $10 a day and am now down to sometimes less than a $1 a day with adsense. I'm just holding tight waiting for things to settle down. It's not a time to panic but I think we are in a waiting game with stabilization to come. My readership is cut in half, back to where I was a year ago.
      
      
      (and I don't think switching back and forth matters at this point, except to confuse ourselves even more. I myself am staying in  a holding pattern right now with no changes being made)

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   blessedmommyposted 13 years ago

   Wow, what a tough break, Mikeydoes!  What do you think is causing this drastic drop?  Looks like you have some great hubs, this must be very frustrating for you too!

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      Mikeydoesposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      No worries, it gives me time to explore other options I have, and hopefully this will turn around. I expect it to.

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   Sophia Angeliqueposted 13 years ago

   I have no doubt that HP will find a way around this eventually. However, it will take time. Rome was not built in a day. Start exploring. There are other options. I'm currently working on my own websites and coming up with other ideas. So are many others.
   
   I think it's wise to be aware that nothing on the web lasts forever. There will always be overnight changes. It's a good thing not to put all one's eggs in one basket.
   
   Best of luck.

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   Richieb799posted 13 years ago

   I was discouraged also, however my traffic began dropping before I enabled HP ads, I think it was Panda. However, I only used HP ads for a week and then returned to just Adsense, earnings were still only $2 a day at best, now for 2 weeks my traffic has risen and is back to Prepanda with much better earnings, almost the same earnings as PrePanda, I think HP could be on the mend and Quadcast is in line with my traffic

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   blessedmommyposted 13 years ago

   Thanks Sophia, I guess maybe I had my hopes set too high.  I was so pleased with my previous success and I guess I should've realized that it would be too good to last.
   
   I'm worried about newcomers as well.  With results like these they will be sure to get discouraged quickly.

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   blessedmommyposted 13 years ago

   Richieb799, It's good to read some good news.  I hope things continue to get better and better for you!  I guess I should give it some time, but I admit I'm disappointed.

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      Website Examinerposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      What is missing from your original post is information about the traffic volume you have been receiving. That has nothing to do with what affiliate program you are using. If your traffic is unchanged, the drop in income would be harder to understand.

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   Drew Breezzyposted 13 years ago

   smile you are all doing better than me! ahaha

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   Mark Ewbieposted 13 years ago

   Yeah, in the interest of making some people feel better here's my stats.  Six months - 125 hubs - approx. 15-20 cents a day (that's total income not per hub btw)
   
   Now OK, each of those hubs only represents about five minutes work, but man you should see the time I've spent on the forums.

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      celebritieposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Hey mark maybe hubpages should pay us for forum posts, many other sites do that!

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         Mark Ewbieposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         I'm hoping they might pay me to stop.

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    cookingdivaposted 13 years ago

    I wish I have something wise to say, but I do not. You seemed to making lot more than me. My traffic is dropped and adsense is at standstill.
    
    Wishing better days for you, me and all of us!

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    LuisEGonzalezposted 13 years ago

    I don't know if my case is much different from others, but with Adsesne I was making like 32 cents per day. Since I enabled Hubpages Ads, the Adsense has dropped to about 9 cents per day but the HP Ads have grown by about 98 cents per day from day one to about $1.16 per day as of yesterday. My total views according to Goggle Analytic have gone from about 48 visit per day to about 119 per day. This within a three month period.

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    singingmommyposted 13 years ago

    I made like over half less with Hub ads and my google went to zero. I don't know if I should cancel hub ads or not and take the chance at staying at zero. I know it's strange. I sure liked getting that nice google check every month or every other month.

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    b4murrayposted 13 years ago

    LOL I am only making about 10 cents a day on HP and nothing on adsense... So I must be doing something wrong
    

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       IzzyMposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       You just haven't written enough hubs, yet. You are an excellent writer and I see nothing wrong with your hubs or titles. If I knew the secret of having a successful hub, the ones that get 1000s of hit a day I would tell you, but I am still looking myself.
       
       Just keep plugging away like the rest of us (or like most of us anyway).
       
       If you make 10 cents a day on 22 hubs, stands to reason you can expect $1 on 220 hubs.

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    mackyiposted 13 years ago

    I thought it was the only one who was feeling the pinch! Recently after activating Hubpages Ads, I realize my Adsense earning was suddenly frozen. For the past month I am yet to earn a dime for my Adsense Ads. Though I have been earning a a few cents daily for my HP ads, it's still nowhere close to what I would make on my Adsense Ads on my lucky days! I don't really know what to do. Any suggestions?

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    Twenty One Daysposted 13 years ago

    According to Google Trend and the Zeitgeist, the most popular search locations are from India -nearly 3:1 over the US. For searches in the US [California (HQ) and Texas]. So, we should ask Texans and Californians what they like most.
    
    According to Google trend for this month of May, nearly -get this- 80% were on doomsday. Macy's tops the list, ahead of Camping's predictions, the Indy 500 and waaaaaaaaaaaay in the back, the Real Housewives of New Jersey.

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