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   tritrainposted 13 years ago

   We need an indication of what link is causing this error.
   
   Either that, or a list of sites that are prohibited.
   
   Expecting us to go through every link HOPING that we find the offending link is a waste of our time.
   
   
   
   This kind of message is not helpful.
   
   "This hub contains prohibited promotional links, or links to a site that may be difficult for visitors to navigate, such as:
   
       Sites that contain pop-ups or pop-unders that interfere with site navigation, for example when clicking the back or close buttons, or that redirect users to unwanted websites
       Affiliate or promotional links in subject areas containing a high proportion of low quality or promotional content (for example, forex, acai berry, MLM, weight loss, etc)
       Links to eBook sales pages and lead capture forms
   
   If you would like to make changes to the Hub in order to bring it into compliance, please do so and then click the Submit for Publication button. We will review your Hub, and if appropriate, republish it. This process can take up to 72 hours. Hubs without substantial improvement will not be republished, and we will be monitoring any changes made to Hubs after republication."

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      Marisa Wrightposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Paul Deeds posted that if you click on the warning at the top of the Hub, it does bring up a list of the specific links which are a problem.
      
      Unfortunately I had already fixed all mine by that time, so I wasn't able to check it out.  I'm really curious if it's true, because I think hardly anybody noticed that was possible.
      
      Could you check it out and let us know?
      
      Edit:  I should also mention, I had a similar problem and it turned out the link to my own personal website had been misclassified by the filter. So it is possible it's a mistake.

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         tritrainposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         I clicked on both links in the warning message, and then, after each click, scrolled through the entire length of the Hub.
         
         I did not find anything highlighted in any way.
         
         I am unable to republish so I don't know if it is fixed already.
         
         
         *They really need to fix these crappy automated messages.  It's a popular Hub and I have many links pointing to it, yet it is unpublished.  It's embarrassing.

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            WryLiltposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            Have you tried submitting it? You need to submit after each change to find out if it was correct. Did you read the Sunforged big thread on this?

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               tritrainposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               I've tried resubmitting over and over, each time removing more content and backlinks.  It still comes up with the message.
               
               I'm reading Sunforged thread now.

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                  WryLiltposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  You need to submit, wait for a moderator to check it and then try again. The message won't be removed, even if the problem is no longer there, until after a moderator has checked it.

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            Marisa Wrightposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            Do you have any links at all in the Hub?   Where are they linked to?  Any RSS feeds?

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               tritrainposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               There are an assortment of links, but all related to the topic.
               
               I did have an RSS feed, but removed it.
               
               If I remove much more then I might as well just delete the Hub. 
               
               So much for my backlinks TO the Hub.  It's seriously a misstep by HubPages to unpublish peoples' work, especially after we have done all this linkbuilding.
               
               ....The HubPages hole is only being dug deeper by the HubPages staff.

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                  Marisa Wrightposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  Have you emailed team@, they will tell you which links are the problem if you ask.  It may take two or three weeks to get an answer, though.

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   tritrainposted 13 years ago

   By the way, I have no affiliate links on the page.

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   LeanManposted 13 years ago

   http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/75569
   
   The list has been asked for and discussed at some length, however there does not seem to be much of a response from good ole HP apart from the usual defensiveness! Pointing the fingers back at the writers that make the money for them rather than trying to actually do something to make our lives easier..

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      Simone Smithposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      [insert finger pointing and defensive comment here]

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   sunforgedposted 13 years ago

   Since I feel for you, Ill point out the important part of the thread.
   
   The message doesnt go away, but you dont have to submit it for every change.
   
   There are two messages - the one that is in orange and says warning, should be clickable (design flaw) and that should display problem links - once the orange warning is gone it is safe to resubmit. it will still say "dont submit" in red ..fancy that
   
   I imagine submitting after each tweak would be grounds for irreconcilable status!
   
   As for emailing for  a better explanation - Ive been waiting over a week for the two hubs I asked about - I wouldn't count on that one. ( 2 hubs w/ about a total of only 18k views so maybe not worth their time)
   
   Considering HP's search authority at the moment, anything that is unpublished and takes more then 2-3 days to be dealt with would probably be best to  just move to your own site or to a better performing site with a higher revshare, in my experience so far, a hub that is unpublished by HP for too long drops to much in serps positioning to worry about making the changes necessary to keep it there.

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      WryLiltposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Thanks for the clarification. You've definitely had more experience in this area than me!

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      Wesman Todd Shawposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Besides being, along with James Watkins, my unofficial Hubpages hero. . . .you Sir, are a MONSTER.
      
      Two Hubs and 18K views not worth their time????????????????
      
      *expletive*  *expletive*  *expletive*
      
      I don't know what the deal is.  I had a "substandard" deal in red on one of my hubs. . . ..that was still published.  I wrote to them, and they took that off my page, and told me that it was published again. . . .even though it was never UNPUBLISHED.
      
      I had another that was . . . .unpublished for some unknown and unstated reason. . . and I wrote to them four straight days, and got a very nice apology, and had that hub re published as well with no changes made at all.
      
      I guess I should point out here that most of the problems that I have had had to do with hubs about shotguns.
      
      I'm a redneck. . . .sue me.

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         WryLiltposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         When exactly did this happen? It seems the wait time for a response was pretty good at the start of this but it keeps getting longer and longer...

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            Marisa Wrightposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            I sent an email to team@ on the day I got my warning email, because I couldn't find the offending "affiliate links" in some of my Hubs.  I didn't get a response so I sent another one. Still no response, so I tried the forums - and I guess you noticed that did no good. 
            
            Then the Hubs were unpublished, so I sent another email.  The following day I got an email saying it was all a mistake and the Hubs were reinstated. 
            
            I still don't know whether that was in response to my original email two weeks before, or one of the later ones.

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            Jason Menayanposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            Actually, response times have been getting shorter. It was up to a week before, but the moderation team has been responding in less than a week now.

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               WryLiltposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               Jason could you please drop by the Flagging Abuse thread and point out the fact that hubbers CANNOT unpublish another user's hub? Would be very helpful, thanks!

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                  Mutiny92posted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  oh sure - ruin another conspiracy...next thing you are going to say is that we aren't ruled by a secret society and Area 51 has no aliens in captivity...

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                  Jason Menayanposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  I just did a few minutes ago.

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            Wesman Todd Shawposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            This would have been two weeks ago - and I've not had anymore issues since then.
            
            I'm sorry I didn't reply to you sooner - this one got lost in my deluge of mail.

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   sunforgedposted 13 years ago

   lol - My loud complaining isnt a result of it happening alot, its a result of seeing how poorly the system is being designed and managed and hoping adding a few wake up calls might have an effect.
   
   I was just attempting to be thorough in my analysis of my experience
   
   The lip service I received didnt qualify as an effect i desired - so Im just moving them.
   
   The hubs heavier in amazon widgets were an annoyance to "fix" but that wasnt confusing or poorly explained - it was just a quick way to destroy things that were carefully formatted and well designed.
   
   I did have enough amazon heavy buying guides pulled to see that the  time it took from unpublish to republish was sufficiently damaging to spur the need to move elsehwere.
   
   Sites or pages that are no longer there when googlebot comes looking is bad for the page and the site.

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      WryLiltposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Well I don't have any affiliates I use on Hubpages so I never even had that issue.

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      tritrainposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      This is a major concern of mine.
      
      All the work, time, and energy being destroyed by being unpublished. The search engine traffic disappearing. 
      
      Might as well delete.
      
      Which is where I am at now.

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   sunforgedposted 13 years ago

   The keyword tips hub I challenged the unpublishing of had 111 comments so I wanted to keep it here.
   
   Currently my needs revision has 18k in views for 18hubs and the submitted one has 10k more worth of views.
   
   Number of views means nothing about quality, but it does reference how big my loss of opportunity for income is  I suspect that I can assume that 111 comments is enough for me to feel that the hub in question was a positive addition to the hubscape in relation to viewing time, interaction and how often it was referenced on HP as being helpful. Knowing that, I see no reason to waste my own time trying to decipher their changing TOS, questionable communication practices and blatant disrespect for contributor efforts.
   
   Am I really that far in left field with that? I dont think so

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      recommend1posted 13 years agoin reply to this

      What you say is at the root of most complaints, or aggravates the issue considerably:
      "I see no reason to waste my own time trying to decipher their changing TOS"
      If they published the lists and guides they give to moderators it would make each issue far more clear without waiting a week for a moderator to not answer your question.
      
      The issue of WHY proper information is not given, and why staff say they don't know either,  in these threads,  is probably the real reason behind the poor quality of the HP response and general rattiness of the staff when they do appear, except Simone of course !

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   sunforgedposted 13 years ago

   You know whats fun?
   
   When you get your second unexplained rejection on a hub with 3k words and complex and attractive design - and you go to click on "great hub examples" from the email
   
   The first one you see has 18 product items
   
   about 660-680 words
   
   a huge newsfeed - 6 other related links (they are related)
   
   Basically the whole hub has to be read in one tiny column. Its an eyesore. This is what you send everyone as examples of good hubs?
   
   
   
   Who wears the attention to detail hat there? They tell me my hub doesnt fit standards and then send me an email where the first "example" clearly does not either.
   
   smh

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      Mutiny92posted 13 years agoin reply to this

      that is bizarre...something is off kilter...did they tell you why on this one?

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         sunforgedposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         
         
         Im guessing they are just having fun over there watching me squirm. Pulling my little legs of one by one. Moderating all day has to get boring, cant knock em for getting their rocks off somehow.

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            Eaglekiwiposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            Hey sun ,how come ya never approved one of my comments,actually left a couple ,on two diff Hubs?

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               sunforgedposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               Lol, Im sorry, I will go check , I abandoned Hubs for a bit. I just come to complain when they remind me again of their dastardly presence through another lovely email or my forum obsession forces me near.
               
               *edit* I dont have any unapproved comments and certainly didnt disallow any from you - they must be live?

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                  Eaglekiwiposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  I hear that , re forum obscession.
                  
                  I kinda jump between it, and the classifieds ;
                  
                  
                  
                  Hey no biggy ,Im off to bed anyways ,you hang in, or diversify or both and do it with pizzazz !!
                  
                  Love Mondays

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                  Eaglekiwiposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  Oh thats wierd ,I left them 2/3 days ago now..??
                  
                  brb

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                     Eaglekiwiposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                     Edit: Hmm ,left a comment on your Pizza Hub ,and I see that one ok, but the other Hub which was titled
                     
                     "Online Writers and Internet Marketers Forum: What Makes A Good Forum for Industry Talk?, my comment doesnt appear (thats the one I thought ,was awaiting approval)...
                     
                     Shows under my activity ,and comments I made etc...not the actual comment ,just where I made it etc...
                     
                     Nevermind ,it was positive ,basically said ,Im trying to copy down stuff ,cuz I feared all that good info might not be always around.
                     
                     Things that go bump in the night huh.

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                        sunforgedposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                        Its published - always has been..maybe you are used to it being at the end?
                        
                        I have the comments set the opposite order on that hub - so its the first comment visible instead.

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                           Eaglekiwiposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                           Ok that was embarassing -
                           
                           I can see clearly now -the rain has gone

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            Mutiny92posted 13 years agoin reply to this

            I am sorry...there are some pretty serious offenders out there that could be the focus of attention.
            
            Fortunately, I haven't had to worry too much yet...my hubs are almost impossible to even find!  Just ask Google...

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      Wesman Todd Shawposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      I'm so glad that I've never, EVER bothered to look at any of those,
      
      "check out these examples of high quality hubs!"
      
      . . . .I get anger issues whent my Hubs are criticized as it is. . .

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      Jason Menayanposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Which Hub is that?

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      Whitney05posted 13 years agoin reply to this

      I've seen that too!!! I've seen moderate quality as examples of hubs to strive for.
      
      It is ironicly funny. There is one hubber in particular that they like to feature.

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         CMHypnoposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Maybe one of HP's new aims is to have a site full of mediocre, homogeneous, bland hubs that offend nobody and don't make a dime?

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   lrohnerposted 13 years ago

   Sunforged, This might be an easier way of dealing with it.
   
   

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      Mutiny92posted 13 years agoin reply to this

      LOL!

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   tritrainposted 13 years ago

   Why don't they simply stop all new accounts, their house in order, and try to embrace their core writers to help out?
   
   Instead, more and more garbage is flowing in, while the core Hubbers are leaving. 
   
   That's sad.

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    sunforgedposted 13 years ago

    <-- Ive turned my back - Its ridiculous to wait nearly two weeks for a reply to an email that can be responded to in 30 seconds
    
    For further help in discovering that hub simply look to this quote:
    
    

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    sunforgedposted 13 years ago

    Recent posts to there Facebook wall were also blatant violations of existing criteria.
    
    Instead of complaining I just "unliked" them though. That'll show em, lol.

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       tritrainposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       Oh, way to twist the knife!
       
       I think we're all unliking a number of recent changes to HubPages.

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