Publish, Unpublish, and Republish

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   Beth100posted 14 years ago

   When you publish a hub, it is normally listed under hub activity and a notification is sent via email to all interested parties.  Now, when you unpublish that hub, finish re-editing and then republish it (keeping the original title intact), will it appear in the hub activity?  Also, will a new notification be sent out?

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      darksideposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Probably not.
      
      
      No.

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   Beth100posted 14 years ago

   Thanks Darkside.  I tried it, and you're correct again.

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   Janettaposted 14 years ago

   would be nice if there was some way our fans could be alerted of a republished hub Maybe if a hub has been unpublished for a certain period of time, say 60 or 90 days or wahtever, then it shows in hubtivity that it is republished

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      darksideposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      I had been wondering how that could be done, and letting a certain amount of time lapse was something I hadn't thought about.
      
      That and say a minimum added word count. 200 words?

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         Janettaposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         hmm...what about added/edited word count? I wonder if they could monitor how much a hub changed?

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   thranaxposted 14 years ago

   People are suppose to write the highest quality then can the first time around. You can only make a first impression once.
   
   ~thranax~

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      Janettaposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      there's always room for improvement, there's no such thing as perfection, you know

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      lakeerieartistsposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      I disagree with you here thranax.  After a year and a half of writing online, I still have much to learn, but one thing I have learned is that if I go back and improve my older articles with things I have learned along the way, I get more viewers, and increasing general and specific traffic over the long haul.  Not only that, but since my article (hub or otherwise) is better, the traffic it attracts is usually more targeted.
      
      Just because something is the best we can do right now, does not mean that it is the best we can do forever.  And it also helps grow your followers if they know that you are continually looking to update and improve your work.
      
      Traditionally writing has always been about editing and improving, with the speed of changes on the internet that is even more important.

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         Marisa Wrightposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         I think that's true, especially for new Hubbers.  I know that I learned an enormous amount about writing for the internet over the course of my first year here (and I'm still learning).  Most of my Hubs have gone through several edits.  I feel it would have been dreadfully annoying if a notification had gone out to my fans every time I made a change. 
         
         Mind you, I don't unpublish when I edit - so I suppose if a notification went out ONLY if you made a conscious decision to unpublishy and republish, that would be OK.

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         PegCole17posted 10 years agoin reply to this

         Well said.

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   Uninvited Writerposted 14 years ago

   When I update a hub I usually announce it on Twitter and Facebook.

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   Sue Adamsposted 14 years ago

   I agree. I am constantly improving my hubs and their scores then go up.
   I read recently on one of these forums about a hubber who had unpublished some of his hubs for a major overhaul and his hubberscore dropped from way in the 90's to 50 something. That really scared me.
   
   It may be better to just edit rather than unpublish. Means you have to finish what you're doing to an acceptable standard in one session. That's perhaps why some of us work late hours when we should be asleep.

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   DesignerHandbagsposted 14 years ago

   Hi Guys!
   
   On the topic of published/unpublished, I recently added some amazon modules to all my hubs, however once i added them and hit finished editing, the hubs went into a sorta 2 day holding pattern where on my account page all my hub links were in BLUE, awaiting to go live again.
   
   So little more than 2 days and the titles turned green, and all 10 were back live.
   
   My question is, if i have to go in, say add a tweek or two, is there a way to do editing without the hub becoming unpublished for days at a time. Thanks for any info on this issue.
   
   Jennifer

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      Marisa Wrightposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      There can be no reason to that I can think of. If it happens again, open the Hub for editing and click the Publish Now button again - maybe it didn't take the first time.
      
      By the way, there's no need to unpublish a Hub while you're adding Amazon capsules, just open it for editing while it's still live.

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   DesignerHandbagsposted 14 years ago

   Thank You Marisa,
   
   I'm going to work on them now and try that, thanks,
   
   Jennifer

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      Marisa Wrightposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Actually I've just realised, why do you think that the titles being in blue means they're not published?

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   DesignerHandbagsposted 14 years ago

   Actually, i made a mistake in my initial post...
   
   When I went into the Hub and edited, then hit publish, every hub on my account page was GREEN for 3 days......
   
   Then, they all turned BLUE and were published again and visable. But it took them 3 days to go live again, seemed an awefully long time.
   
   The hubs all show BLUE now, i am going to try a few tweeks and see if they stay blue...
   
   Jennifer

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    Beth100posted 14 years ago

    I believe that we all aim to publish our hub in the finest form when we hit the "publish" button.  However, the hub I had initially published was at the caliber it was aiming for, but it was a real emotional hub, and as soon as I hit the publish button, I realized I wasn't ready to share it with the world.  That's the truth.  So, I unpublished it as soon as I published it. It was the conclusion to a previous hub, that is why I was wondering if it would have a notification send out again. 
    
    Under normal circumstances, I do not unpublish hubs for several reasons.  One, it affects your score.  Two, you lose any comments that have been placed and accepted.  Three, republishing may not regenerate the same traffic. 
    
    As for editing a published hub, I agree that it should be done live.  This way, none of the above is affected and word count is automatically updated. 
    
    I also agree with Janetta and Darkside that having a renotification sent after 60 or 90 days would be useful.  Afterall, how do we know when a reworked hub has been republished??

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       motricioposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       You got my atention on this subject, Hubpages TEAM should have a process to let our fans know if we make an update to our hubs.

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       Janettaposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       well...1).I don't know how much it really afeects your score just to unpublish one hub. Maybe if you unpub. several in one day...
       
       2.) you won't lose any comments. I have unpublished, edited and republished and the comments are all still in tact.
       
       3). it certainly won't generate much traffic from within HP b/c there is no re-notification, but if it was edited, including tags, it is likely to generate more or better traffic from outside sources.
       
       Editing is a good idea in any form. Whether you unpublish first or leave the hub up. I believe it was Marisa that made a good point about unpublishing. If the hub isn't published, you're taking away any chance of traffic at all to that hub. Basically, one or two hits a day is better than none. I am an unpublisher. When I need/want to make substantial edits to a hub, I take it down, fix it then put it back up when I'm ready.

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    motricioposted 14 years ago

    Go for this forum if you'll like me to talk to Hubpage IT Team so they can notice this request.
    
    http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/29683

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    it-solutionposted 10 years ago

    I have three account in hubpages. But I use two hubpages account. Now will I be able to monetize my two account with adsense from same IP address?

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       Phyllis Doyleposted 10 years agoin reply to this

       This is off-topic for this thread. Start a new forum thread with your question.

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    Oztinatoposted 10 years ago

    Obviously a person writing their first one or two hubs should have a chance to re present a hub without penalty.

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    firstdayposted 10 years ago

    It is my understanding it is best to "edit" do NOT unpublished your hub.  I read this on a hub forum.  I am new here so one of the more experienced hubbers will let you know.  If I find something that needs correcting on one of my hubs and I do since I am new.  I "edit".  Now this may cost points on my score.  I really don't mind since the hub is better after I edit.

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       Phyllis Doyleposted 10 years agoin reply to this

       If I am going to do some major editing on a hub, I unpublish it.  When I finish the edit process, I publish the hub. Sometimes I will share the hub by clicking on the H+, or, I will make a comment that I updated the hub -- either action will put the hub in the news feed (not in the email notifications, just the news feed).

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          Marisa Wrightposted 10 years agoin reply to this

          Bear in mind that if you leave it unpublished for too long, then it will lose ALL its ranking in Google.  So it's OK to unpublish for a few hours but for goodness sake, don't forget it and leave it unpublished!

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    Sustainable Sueposted 10 years ago

    I could be wrong, but my impression is that newly edited hubs are announced by HP. I'm not sure how, I just remember reading that somewhere. When I edit a hub it usually generates a few extra reads, so I assumed it was true.

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       Marisa Wrightposted 10 years agoin reply to this

       No, there is no mechanism to announce edits.

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          TIMETRAVELER2posted 10 years agoin reply to this

          Marisa:
          
          If there were, they'd be announcing my edits 24/7 lol!

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    firstdayposted 10 years ago

    Marisa Wright…thanks for your response…good to know.  I finished an edit earlier today on an obvious error.

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    JoeYoung22posted 10 years ago

    On that other site (B), there was terrible abuse of the system - even after the upgrade. Unscrupulous posters (and there are many of them) discovered that any editing of a post would see it restored to the front page, where it would garner more traffic. This manipulation saw posts that had been published for only a few seconds having hundreds of views and likes.
    
    We are encouraged to update and improve our hubs here in HP, and I have tinkered with many of mine, but I would feel like a cheat if every minor edit saw the hub re-emerge in hub activity.

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    firstdayposted 10 years ago

    Joe Young22
    Hello,
    
    Thanks for your input.  It sounds like you have been around.  I am now hitting edit trying to put in the Hub Page ad.  I copied the code on for "first day" that's me that hub pages created for the widget.
    
    Now I am thinking I need to go back into my hubs and copy the links inside the widget they created.  Any clues on this anyone?
    
    I am new to all this.  Thanks for your constructive helpful answers.

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       Marisa Wrightposted 10 years agoin reply to this

       What HubPage ad?   What widget?  Ads are added automatically.

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          firstdayposted 10 years agoin reply to this

          Marisa,
          
          I was referring to the Hub Ad to refer folks.  Have it posted on the hub page.

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             Marisa Wrightposted 10 years agoin reply to this

             That's for use on your own blog, not on a Hub.

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    ChristinSposted 10 years ago

    Do edited hubs go back into the hopper or something? Could that account for the extra views when we update?
    
    As for announcing them again, I think that could be abused by some and isn't a good idea.  I regularly tweak hubs with minor edits here and there and would not want my followers to become annoyed seeing the same hub republished over and over. 
    
    I think it's fine to post to social media however that it's been updated, and perhaps once in awhile to hit the button to share with followers.  I would advise not doing that often however.

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       Marisa Wrightposted 10 years agoin reply to this

       If you edit, your Hub goes back through QAP so it would make sense that it would go through the hopper as well.

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