Help Please? Re: No Idea Which Text is "Duplicate" in Unpublished Hub?

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   lifeboostposted 12 years ago

   Hi there
   
   One of my hubs has been unpublished, and it says it's because there's duplicate text, but I don't know which part is duplicate? I've written it all myself, and I've just done a "plagiarism check" to be sure that someone else hasn't copied and pasted my writing elsewhere, but it's come up with nothing.
   
   Is it possible for the moderators to let me know which bit is duplicated so I know what to re-write?
   
   Thanks v much in advance.

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      sofsposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Here you go... you need to read this link and another link that you will find in the text there. This will help you sort out your problem.

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   QuestionMasterposted 12 years ago

   Have you published this work anywhere else online, such as a blog? Duplicate means that there is another copy out there somewhere, even if you wrote it.

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   lifeboostposted 12 years ago

   Hi there, thanks so much for the replies. Sofs, I can't see a link in your reply to click on?
   
   Question Master, I haven't posted it anywhere else - and I've done a search as I said, just to make sure, but there doesn't seem to be anything coming up that's the same as what I've written.
   
   It would be really good if the moderator could let me know which bit they're referring to and I can easily re-write it.

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      sofsposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Sorry must have forgotten to paste it in...here you go
      http://hubpages.com/faq/#duplicate_content
      The mods may not be able to tell each person about the specific violation.. their work load is heavy.. this may work out faster if you figure it out on your own.. you have all the information here..

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         lifeboostposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Ah, yes, thanks v much Sofs - I can access it now. However, I did already understand what duplicate content is. But to my knowledge, I don't have duplicate content. If there is some, I don't know about it, and therefore, without re-writing absolutely every sentence, or scrapping the whole hub, I honestly don't know what to change as I don't know which "phrase" or bit is duplicate.

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   visitmaniacposted 12 years ago

   It means a majority of your text that makes up your hub is found somewhere else on the web. A system that can help you find out where your hub is also posted is a site called Copyscape http://www.copyscape.com/
   
   Input your url for your hub and click go you should come up with a few responses and what percent the hub is copied word for word.
   
   But here on hub pages you only have two options...
   1. Delete the post
   2. Retyped the entire post so its unique again

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   lifeboostposted 12 years ago

   Thanks v much Visitmaniac - that's the kind of thing I was looking for... and my hopes were high... however, when I entered the URL, it said there was an error and that I should make sure I'd entered my URL correctly... then I realised that of course, because it's been unpublished, presumably copyscape can't access it!
   
   It's really frustrating as it's one of my best hubs, I've had lovely comments, and it's all my original writing, and I've not published any of it anywhere else!
   
   I have to admit, I've been away from HubPages for a while, and have been really enjoying writing elsewhere, but thought I'd come back and do a bit more work here... but really feeling frustrated at this.
   
   I know the moderators are very busy, of course, but it seems a bit unfair to just say there's duplicate content without actually saying what it is - I'm sure that could be automated to highlight whatever is duplicate.
   
   Also, when the duplicate content is discovered in whatever way it is discovered, highlighting it would not take any extra time, would be much fairer to the writer, and save everyone a lot of time?

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      BeatsMeposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Try this link to check for duplicate content http://www.plagiarismchecker.com/
      Instead of the url, you can copy-paste a phrase from your hub.
      
      If the duplicate is not in the hub itself, could it be the comments in that hub?

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         lifeboostposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Thanks so much, BeatsMe - much appreciated. Will check the comments as well. Going through the hub now, entering one sentence at a time lol. Thanks again.

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   psycheskinnerposted 12 years ago

   You could also fine the google cache of the hub by searching for the url, and put that in copyscape.

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      lifeboostposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Thanks v much Psycheskinner - will do that if the site BeatsMe suggested doesn't come up with anything.

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   lifeboostposted 12 years ago

   Hmmm... I'm thinking this may be because of quotes from official sites - I've quoted facts from official sites - but gave the credit and reference so I thought that would be acceptable - sometimes one needs to refer to facts from official sites, or use quotes from well-known experts? Well, to be safe, I'm removing those, and re-writing some of the facts so they can be included. Hoping that will do it. :s 
   
   Thanks so much to you all for the responses.

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      IzzyMposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      If your quotes are important to the hub, put them into photos (use a screenshot and crop it down), then you can put them aback in as quotes and refer to them if need be.

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         carol3sanposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         I was surprised to receive a duplicate notice for one of my hubs.  I tried to post it initially on hubpages, but I had a tough time getting a unique web address.  So I gave up and posted it on my blog instead.  a few weeks later I went back to try again to get a uniqe web address; this time I was successful.  Needless to say, I was sent a duplicate letter. (I didn't know that I was breaking any rules)  My hub was published for a few hours but it was quickly taken down.

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      wildernessposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      While it is acceptable to use credited quotes, there is a limit.  Most of the hub still needs to be your original, unique work.  If you keep the quotes to something less than 20% or your hub you should be alright, but no one knows the exact percentage the bots pick up.  10% would be better.

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   lifeboostposted 12 years ago

   Thanks so much to everyone for the input. I removed the quotes completely just in case, and paraphrased the facts from the expert websites (still leaving in the website names as the source), and then resubmitted it, and I've just received an email to say it's okay now and has been republished! Yay!
   
   Thanks again for all the support, much appreciated! Hope this info helps others as well.

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      wildernessposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      You're welcome.  This is an area that many don't really understand well, thinking that they can re-publish their own work or use large quantities of quotations.
      
      The problem is that google doesn't like duplicate material and HP is doing their best to prevent the whole site from being penalized for that particular "offense".  Some, like you, get caught in the middle with hubs that really aren't bad, but could be judged that way by google and thus HP needs to take action they may well not like.

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