Stop Stolen Hubs - I found a free duplicate content monitoring site

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    shazwellynposted 13 years ago

    Hi everyone,

    I know there have been a lot of concerns about our hub content being stolen.  It has been difficult for all of us to keep an eye on our hubs - plagurising is rife!  However, I wanted to share a freebie with everyone (I like free!) that will search the Internet for duplicate content.

    I was really impressed with it and have already got two theives to take down my wording that they had copied and pasted from my hubs!  I am just really excited about it.  It is easy to use, you must take a look.

    I have no affiliation with this site or nothing to gain by sharing this with you - I just want to share the love! smile

    1. Reality Bytes profile image73
      Reality Bytesposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Thanks for the link.  The first hub url I entered came back with an exact copy of my highest traffic hub.

      I already filed a report with adsense, silly thief has google ads on my content.

      I could not figure out how to contact wordpress which seemed to be the host?

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        shazwellynposted 13 years agoin reply to this

        Well, I found one particularly interesting one where they had framed my hubpage and integrated into their website!

        I thought hubdefender seemed really simple to use and, believe me, I am no easily satisfied customer!  I think, if it is on a free trial, no one has anything to lose and should give it a go - even if it is just for fun! smile

  2. relache profile image73
    relacheposted 13 years ago

    Actually, it's not free.  It's a paid service.  Free is the duplicate reporting that HubPages offers.

    The complete lack of transparency over just who owns this domain and what sort of info they collect about Hub users that choose to use the service gives me pause.

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      Whikatposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      I agree, is a more trusted source and gives you the same if not more information for much lower rates. I will stick to my premium membership at copyscape.

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      shazwellynposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      I gave the free trial a go and found it really good.  I see it is a paid for service, but looks cheap.  If you get a good service that finds where others have copied and pasted our stuff, surely that is a good thing?

  3. sunforged profile image71
    sunforgedposted 13 years ago

    it currently allows up to 10 searches a month for free.

    Ive NEVER had single flag from the HP dupe "service" - but I have certainly found plenty of dupes.

    @whikat- copyscape does not have  "much lower rates" - the HD site is intentionally priced lower according to the sales material on the site listed.

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      Whikatposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Not true Sunforged. I bought 100 searches for $5.00 on copyscape. according to the other site the minimum is $4.00 a month and will only check up to 20 hubs twice a week for that price. It does not state that it will check any other URL's you may have. If you have more than 20 hubs or own other sites how is Hub Defender cheaper?

      This is just an attempt to take advantage of hubbers who do not know any better. Thanks but I will stick with my trusted copyscape.

  4. sunforged profile image71
    sunforgedposted 13 years ago

    20 x 2 = 40

    40 x 4 = 160


    Plus it seems you are using some sort of active checking as in you search yourself? Most of us cant be bothered with that - both Copyscape and HD search FOR YOU.

    This HD service is more similar to CopySentry (below)

      Weekly protection

    Your pages are checked every week.

    Only $4.95/month for up to 10 pages.

    $0.25/month for each additional page.

    so for neither option (active/passive)is Copyscape the more affordable option,

    Personally, I could care less about dupes in general.

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      Whikatposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      I don't think that comparing a trusted site like copyscape with all their bells and whistles that they have in place for copy sentry should be compared with an anonymous hubber's site that has 0 Rankings in Alexa and only 1 backlink from Yahoo.

      Like I said before, this is only a money making scheme for an anonymous hubber. Time will tell about pricing and security issues.

      1. sunforged profile image71
        sunforgedposted 13 years agoin reply to this

        my attempt at distinction was in pointing out that the copyscape rates are not more affordable.

        Comparisons of service quality, I can not make as I have only tried the free version of one and never bothered with the other.

        But the scripts that check for dupes are pretty much the same, no matter who is selling it to you.

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        shazwellynposted 13 years agoin reply to this

        I am not a great fan of corporates who employ lots of people to generate backlinks, giving you the illusion that they are cool and 'popular'.  At least this site isnt claiming to be anything more than what it is. 

        Example:  When we publish hubs, they are zero rated, but given time, they get backlinks for natural good content.  This HD might be from someone who is a start up - who cares!  It works!  Facebook started with zero rankings!

        Yes, it is a good point about security issues, but - as someone who has had a long established relationship with paypal - this seems safe enough for me.

        Also, looking over a very long period of time by many hubbers who have been looking for a service like this, it could be a good option.  This is why I wanted to share it with you all - sorry about being excited about it but the amount of threads asking for exactly this has been phenomenal. 

        Whoever this 'anonymous hubber' is, whoever has developed this 'money making scheme' - they are a genius!  I wish I had the capabilities of creating something like this!

        Whikat - I am happy that you feel safe with copyscape, but surely it is worth looking into other services and keeping an open mind smile

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          Whikatposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          I understand where you are coming from. Putting fear into hubbers is a great way to make some extra cash. Open minded, yes I am. I am grateful that I have a closed mind when it comes to giving my personal and bank account details to someone who secretly hides behind a mask and refuses to give their true identity until after they have all your personal information. Duplicates may be on the rise, but identity theft is higher. Thank you for sharing your excitement. I do hope it all works out for you.

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            shazwellynposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            It is paypal.  This is secure.  It seems ok, so far.  Will let you know if I come up against problems - promise!

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              china manposted 13 years agoin reply to this

              Yep - go with Skyfire - at least he knows what he is talking about.

  5. skyfire profile image80
    skyfireposted 13 years ago

    Security issues ? LOL. Anyone can create a script that runs to check any random site's content for dupe. What's all security fuss in this ?

    And by knowing who owns the service and domain is going to make much difference for checking dupes?

    Why expect any service to be free and label them as money making scheme ? I don't like freebie sucking mentality. Running script to check dupes every week will eat some server resource which is not going to be free. Only issue with hubdefender is that it is only targetd for hubpages domain and if they starts checking other sites like squidoo, infobarrel then surely it will help people to check for dupes.

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      Whikatposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Ohh, I apologize, I did not know that giving an anonymous person and a website with no credibility, your personal and paypal information was not a security  Wow, I am sure glad you cleared that up for us.

      1. skyfire profile image80
        skyfireposted 13 years agoin reply to this


        You can find out the owners personal information from paypal to file legal case if he scams you via paypal transactions. You get all the refunds from paypal if any such thing happens. That guy is using paypal so he's not anonymous anymore. *duh*

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          shazwellynposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          Exactly!  Paypal is secure smile

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            Whikatposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            Just so you know, PayPal cannot protect you from spam and phishing emails piling up in your mail. I happen to have been a victim a while back after doing a purchase through PayPal. Yes, I did eventually get my money returned after a two month battle. Unfortunately, I was unaware that any seller on PayPal has access to your "real e-mail address", your "real name" and if they wish "your real home address" and we all know that anyone with a verified bank account can be a merchant on PayPal unless proven guilty of fraud.

            I had to change my e-mail address because of all the scam and phishing e-mails I received after filing my complaint with PayPal about a particular seller. If you haven't already noticed that many hubbers use another identity so they can avoid spammers and scammers from knowing this personal identification about them. I think it was good for Edweirdo to reveal himself, and then let people decide for themselves if they trust him or not.

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              shazwellynposted 13 years agoin reply to this

              I am really sorry to hear that you had such a bad time with paypal.  My experience has always been positive.  Edweirdo has always been a responsible hubber and I do trust him.  smile

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              china manposted 13 years agoin reply to this

              I don't believe that you were a victim of some kind of Paypal scam - they are renowned for being scrupulous an essential quality in internet dealings.  There is no need to make up lies
              to defend a lost argument.

              Edweirdo is also a well respected hubber of some substance that many of us like, follow and respect.  It is certain that he is sound and trustworthy.

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                Whikatposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                China Man,
                This is the second time that you have called me a liar, You do not know me, nor do I care for sock puppets calling me a liar. Please refrain from your abusive accusations. I never said that Paypal was a scam operation. If you actual read the comment, I said that I was spammed by a merchant and PayPal can not do anything about spammers and scams except give you your money back. The next time you harass me and falsely accuse me you damn sock puppet I will report you. smile
                Have a great Day smile

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                  china manposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  I seem to recall you maliciously lying about the quality of the English in my fishing hub, just around the time my close friend AP got grassed up for being a double, even though it was an open secret as it was in my profile page.

                  And you don't need to worry about me harassing you, I normally only argue with people who have some point or issue of some use.

                  So the accusations are not false and you have already reported me I think.  Also for your information I am not a sock puppet, that was AP, and a very effective sock-it-to-you puppet he was big_smile

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                    Whikatposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                    Yawn, roll Okay Drama Queen and Sock Puppet.

  6. terenceyap07 profile image60
    terenceyap07posted 13 years ago

    There are a rising number of software programs that offer to automatically create daily content.

    This "content" is generated by copying parts (usually a paragragh here and there) of other peoples' content but rearranged in various formats so as to disguise it from detection by search engines.

    In my opinion, this cannot be stopped.  sad

    So I've resigned myself to accepting it as something that will not go away for some time.

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      shazwellynposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      When I used this Hubdefender, I found stolen content.  I contacted a couple of them and they have taken down my copy and pasted wording and used their own.  I am happy - I would have been really happy, if there was a link to my hub and an acknowledgement.  I dont mind my stuff being quoted, as long as there is some sort of reference - I do it for others!!

      However, I understand that you are weary of the constant chasing of others - it is lots of work, right?  But, we have to make a stand and this new website takes the hard work out of tracking these people down.  terenceyap07, why not give the free trail a go?  What have you got to lose?

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    Website Examinerposted 13 years ago

    This thread is very interesting.

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      shazwellynposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Have you checked it out W.E.?  I would really value your comments!

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        Website Examinerposted 13 years agoin reply to this

        I did take a look.

        Noticed that they are a hubber as well, with this profile page:

        Rates seem reasonable and affordable. Only time will tell how good the underlying technology is.

        I certainly would like to see a physical mailing address and other contact information than merely a contact form. However, the PayPal system does give some reassurance. If they are good, they should soon become more transparent about who they are. Could not find any good WHOIS information on them either. If they are no good, they won't last long on HubPages.

        Anyway, I do hope this works out, and I believe there is a need for a targeted, affordable service like this.

        1. Edweirdo profile image82
          Edweirdoposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          Wow - I never realized that I was "hiding my identity" when I created HubDefender!

          Yes, I am the guy that runs the site. I was taking "baby steps" in my roll-out of the site, and it never occurred to me that people would see this as a scam or otherwise untrustworthy service. That's the main reason why I used PayPal - if it was a scam, it wouldn't last two seconds once PayPal found out about it! I assumed the PayPal name would be evidence that the site is "for real".

          As a general rule, I value my privacy, and in the past have been the victim of online harassment, so even on my profile here at HubPages you won't find a link to my personal email account. That may give others the impression that I'm hiding, but that was never my intent - I thought it was more professional to present the site as something independent of me as an individual.

          Now I see that that may not be the best way to go, so I'm "revealing" myself here!

          Please rest assured that it is not a scam - it's a tool that I had wished existed for as long as I've been here at HubPages. It started out as an automated means for my own use in finding duplicates, since I've had several and never gotten an alert from HubPages. When I realized how useful it was, I saw a business opportunity, and so I've expanded the original idea into what is now HubDefender.

          Copyscape is too expensive for most hubbers, IMHO, and I figured I could deliver a similar service for a much lower price and make a bit of money on the side in the process.

          I decided to make the site available just for HubPages because that's what I'm familiar with. If the idea takes off then I should be able to easily adapt it to cover other sites.

          So give it a try - I'm running a free 10 trial during this kick-off phase, and since it's PayPal you can easily cancel if you don't think it's worth the cost. If you look at the profile link that Website Examiner provided (also me) there is a detailed walk through that shows what you'll get with the service.

          So, sorry for any confusion! I was trying to be "professional", but I should have realized that putting my face on the site would have been a good idea...

          1. Lily Rose profile image85
            Lily Roseposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            I knew it was yours because I read you hub about it, but had yet to try it.  So I just checked it out and the first two hubs I entered came back as no duplicates.  When I entered the 3rd hub to check I got this message:

            "Oops!  An unexpected error occurred.  There was a Temporary System Error - Try Again!"

            So I went to try it again and noticed that the remaining free searches had gone down by one more even though there was an error.  I tried it again and the same thing happened.  So I started off with 10 free searches, I had 2 successful searches and two errors - so I should still have 8 searches left but I have 6.....hmmm.....

            1. Edweirdo profile image82
              Edweirdoposted 13 years agoin reply to this

              Sorry about that Lily!

              It seems that the URL you searched has just one duplicate - something I hadn't come across when I was testing, and your search went down a logic path that had a typo in the code, and the 2 failed searches ended up being deducted from the 10 available.

              I fixed the error and reset the database for you, so you should be back at 10 available searches for this month...

              Thanks for pointing out the problem big_smile

              1. Lily Rose profile image85
                Lily Roseposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                Hey, glad I could help - I think...

                Thank you for resetting my searches!

                Okay, so I just went back to check that same hub and like you said there's one instance of duplication, but it another one of my hubs and the duplicated text is simply in the RSS capsule at the bottom where that hub (the one with "duplicated" content) is featured...I guess that's better than it being duplicated elsewhere on the web!

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          shazwellynposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          I always value your views WE - you are always so objective! smile

  8. Reality Bytes profile image73
    Reality Bytesposted 13 years ago

    The guy who stole my content named himself as the author...


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      shazwellynposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Ryankett has some really good hubs on what to do in this case, worth checking out!

  9. snakebaby profile image65
    snakebabyposted 13 years ago

    Thanks, never thought of thieves out there when I'm here, though stuff posted on my Ezinearticles account have been completely stolen by one stinky guy who never gives in even though I reported the incidence to his hosting company, but no use. This hubdefender is really simple to use, but just found out they allow you to use only 10 times per calendar month per IP. Glad so far the 10 hubs I checked are still safe. Need to keep my eyes on them in the future

    1. Marisa Wright profile image84
      Marisa Wrightposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Snakebaby, you do know that if you post an article on EzineArticles, you are giving permission for ANYONE to copy it on ANY site, free of charge?  It's the whole purpose of the site. 

      The only thing you can complain about is if they don't include your promotional links.

      If you don't want people to copy your articles, don't put them on EzineArticles!

      1. snakebaby profile image65
        snakebabyposted 13 years agoin reply to this

        You are right on, Marisa, I did know the whole world can use my articles from Ezinearticles,  and I hope people are honest. But that is not the case, I feel at least 50% chance our articles would be used without getting any credit back. I recently had second thought about putting things there, that is why I haven't done so lately. I think hubpages is much better. Wish I had found it earlier

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        shazwellynposted 13 years agoin reply to this

        Thanks Marisa - I didn't know this.  I gave up using Ezines and with this additional information, I am glad I did! wink

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    Website Examinerposted 13 years ago

    Thanks Edweirdo, I did not sense a scam, but you are doing the right thing by stepping forward, and I wish you the best of luck with this promising new service!

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      shazwellynposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      It is just what people were asking for!  I am proud to know you Ed, you secret little so and so! big_smile

  11. Dolores Monet profile image95
    Dolores Monetposted 13 years ago

    Whoah, I did not realize that about Ezines! I write for Ezines. They don't pay but I write for the links. I just accidentally found duplicated content of one of my top performing hubs on Flixya. I contacted the site and within an hour or so, the account holder appears to have been terminated. Usually, I just write to the person who copied the hub, but this time I was mad.

  12. Pearldiver profile image68
    Pearldiverposted 13 years ago

    Shsssh Cats...... They try to pee on everything don't they? roll

    Why are you soooo hellbent in rubbishing a genuine heads up from another hubber mate? hmm

    To the 'hubber' who set up the service.... good on you! I'll use your service... and I promote Copyscape. The more options out there to deal with the stealing of our personal works - the better.
    Why the diversion from that very serous issue Whikat?
    You voiced your opinion... others don't agree with you.. don't rubbish them for Your Attitude! sad

    Shaz... thank you for the heads up. smile

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      Whikatposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Who's "rubbishing?" I voiced my opinion and respected Shaz's the only rubbish I see here is your comment. Or should I call you China Man? If you actually read through the whole thread, you would have seen that I think the creator was right to come and clear up any confusion, but maybe you can't read that much or understand a thread conversation? so happy to meet you pearl diver, I love your Irony smile

      1. Pearldiver profile image68
        Pearldiverposted 13 years agoin reply to this

        Oh My.... I rest my case! lol
        Wee kat... I am not prone to opening my mouth unless I know what I'm saying... (Albeit with an Accent that you clearly don't understand!)
        What I said is most relevant, as you are aggressively 'voicing' your opinion to which ever poor Joe crosses your sights. Before you comment... in reply... it would be prudent to consider the following:
        From your Bio:
        "I am motivated by passion and enthusiasm.  I love to make people laugh, but my favorite thing is learning.  I seem to have a never-ending  desire for honesty, knowledge, wisdom, and truth."
        From this thread:
        Kindly be true to your Bio (If this is how you wish others to believe of you).  Have a Good Look at your remarks that you have made throughout this thread.... But Do So from OUR Perspectve rather than your own! It might also help you Learn from others who are known for being: motivational, passionate, enthusiastic, honest, for having wisdom and knowledge.... and able to make people laugh!! hmm
        Wow... I'm sure I've got a couple of thousand Comments from other hubbers here, telling me that in their view.... the above attributes fit me!! smile
        Now That's Ironic big_smile
        Nice to meet you too.... Have a less grumpy day! smile

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      shazwellynposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Thats ok Pearldiver smile

      Whikat - Im glad that Edweirdo 'came out' and it was a great surprise!  He is a real talented chappie.

      There was a comment earlier about it would be great if the service was extended and this is a great idea.  Hoping that Ed will do this big_smile  I think it is a case of watch this space... I know that I was really impressed by HubDefender and it is worth giving it a free trial - at the very least!

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        Whikatposted 13 years agoin reply to this

        Thanks Shazwellyn,
        I will keep my eyes open on this space. I am glad that it is going good for you and Edweirdo.

        Pearl Diver,
        Yawn, :rolleyes, Thanks for showing off your true intelligence mate. You forgot,"Of course, I can be skeptical at times.  Which is very useful in my love for research and discovery." which is also on my profile, which I have displayed those qualities on this thread. But once again you skip over all the relevant parts. Thanks for the humor in your irony. smile

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    Whikatposted 13 years ago

    I just wanted to write a public apology to Shazwellyn, and everyone else who has participated on this particular thread for my behavior on this thread. Yes, I can be skeptical at times, but I should have never crossed over the line. I do seek truth, and honesty and I believe that is what has been offered on this thread.

    I have no excuse for my previous behavior, but I am grateful to you Shazwellyn for always being polite to me in my darkest behavior. I would delete all my negative comments if I could. However, all I can do is say that I am sorry and wish the best possible success.

    I have had a change of heart and have discovered some greatness in people because of it. A lesson learned the hard way for me, but never the less a lesson learned. Thank you Pearl diver for helping me see the difference of the person I aim to be compared to the person I displayed in this thread. Thanks again Shazwellyn for your kindness and patience.

  14. hubber-2009 profile image57
    hubber-2009posted 13 years ago

    Is it true that yours is showing as original content. if your page is the copied one?

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      Website Examinerposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Your question is a bit difficult for me to understand.

      If you publish a hub first, then someone else copies that, your hub is the original. If the copy was posted very soon after you published, theoretically the copy might get indexed first, and your hub could be flagged as duplicate. But if the copy is posted awhile after you posted the original, then HubPages will acknowledge that yours is the original. It may show a duplicate warning - to alert you to possible unauthorized duplicates - but you will not be penalized.

      If you are talking about Edweirdo's new service, I have no idea how that will work. My answer above is about HubPages' own system for detecting duplicate hubs.

  15. Thriller profile image60
    Thrillerposted 13 years ago

    This seems like a really useful service to stop plagiarism but it's not free sadly. I never have had any Hub stolen till now but even if I had I wouldn't be much bothered. The net is too vast, anonymous and chaotic a place to be policed.


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