Thank you for your patience, everyone.
Marina has updated the FAQ entry on the Amazon Program. Please note that some of the existing sub-entries were updated, and some additional sub-entries were added.
If you have any unresolved questions, please feel free to add them in this thread.
Amason associates program-they don't allow in Illinois !! is that correct
It isn't allowed in NC either, Amazon closed mine. Unless that has changed in the past year.
I don't know, amazon is probably correct. But I do know that it's not allowed in N. Carolina.
NC passed what they call is the Nexxus Law that requires online sales to be charged sales tax for the purchase. There are a few other states that have passed similiar laws as well. I live in NC and have been dropped by Amazon and quite a few others.
Any idea if there's a way around this? For now, I definitely put more "Ebay" capsules in my hubs than "Amazon" capsules. Grr
Thanks for the update. I'd like to see an explanation for why the HP Amazon program is mandatory. Squidoo offers the option of using their Amazon program or my own Amazon account, so it's obviously possible to set it up that way.
As I understand the new system, I'd lose access to fully detailed sales data, be under a system that can use any formula to determine my earnings -- a system that is no longer transparent -- and, the terms state that HP can change the terms at any time and I have no recourse. Why would I go there? I'm so curious as to the thinking behind this.
People who are so confidently looking forward to 8.5 percent payouts under HP's mandatory Amazon program might want to read the new TOS and HP Amazon program details with great care.
I used to think so well of HP. Why this new direction of obscuring the financial aspects?
I'm not even sure what to do with the GoogleAds, eventhough I would like to learn how to set-up my accnt to make money. There is not clear instructions, explanations, examples, or confirmation of acquiring this incentive. I clicked on the icon to set-up for it but no luck inknowing if I did it correct and if it's active. I did however try and for some reason it says pending verification or something close to that.
I believe this is also my situation. I can't tell whether my application is still being considered - it's been a couple of weeks, and my last alert, which I got when I first applied, indicated that it would be "2-3 days," which was quite a while ago.
I am excited about the possibilities of higher payouts and more quickly. Where can I sign up now? I am on both programs.
I'm one of those who is ineligible for the Amazon program because I live in North Carolina
Is there any way around this?
You can join the HP Amazon program as you're not an affiliate of Amazon through this program - but are within the HP program...
Trust me, SimeyC, I tried joining through HP. I'm blocked because "residents of North Carolina are not eligible, ya da, ya da, etc."
You misunderstand. Once the HP earnings program includes amazon, which it does not yet, then you can earn through amazon.
Once that program goes completely into effect, none of us will be an affiliate of amazon except through other, external, sites.
Of course, current affiliates will keep their standing with Amazon, unless they eventually kill our affiliation through lack of activity. All the activity will be through HP, not our individual affiliations.
Capricorn - I live in NC, too. It's maddening that we can't do the Amazon affiliate program. I wonder if there's some petition we could sign or something. :\
Just want to point out the line "Mandatory transition is not required at this time." - superb - while I am switching this is going to really benefit some people - thanks for listening to the community.
I think you've basically covered most of the concerns I've seen - excellent FAQ!
I look forward to the switch personally. Great FAQ section on the topic. I don't recall seeing a start date, how soon will it be before we can actually make the change to the combo-program Jason?
We're still working with Amazon on that. Believe me, we want to get interested participants access as soon as possible! All I can say now is "soon"
And all we can say is "Not soon enough!"
In a nice,patient, understanding way, of course.
I'm surely going to join and am interested. But, I've got 0 Amazon sales
Will be writing lots more in Jan so hopefully then will get some
Soon is good. Will their be something in the "earnings" section to tell us that we can start?
Soon would be good..
Sheesh - premature announciation sure has caused plenty of storm and drang..
We will announce it via the blog, the newsletter, the forum, and likely an announcement in your My Account page.
Sorry for the delay - when you're working with another partner, things can work quite a bit slower than if you're doing them all by yourself.
This sounds like another good reason to be writing on HubPages! Thanks guys!
This sounds great. Sure, it'll be sad to not be able to use my HP-driven sales toward my personal amazon's referral count (thus making it harder to move up commission rates), however getting the 8% commission rate will well compensate for it.
It gives me an incentive to make more amazon hubs - quality ones, of course.
Now if only there was a way for me to close down my 2 other accounts and have their hubs transferred to this one so I wouldn't have to worry about reaching 3 payouts (hey, I wanted to separate by research style, but that was before HP had its own revenue program. Now I'd rather have one big account...)
I'm really looking forward to the Amazon Program. I was so close to hitting 7.5% referral fee in November, but this month, back to 4%... Waaah! not fair!
Thanks for the good news, Jason.
I'm more interested in how things work out in practice but this is a clearer FAQ and there were no real surprises.
Perhaps you should have mentioned that it is possible to enter the Hubpages earning program and the amazon program without having an adsense account. It was a source of confusion before.
How long does the cookie last on the HP Amazon program? Or is everything the same as the Amazon Affiliate rules and conditions we have now?
That's good news. HP has done a great job negotiating with Amazon to provide the best possible solution. I know it's not easy as there are so many different situations people have that needed to be considered. You're efforts are appreciated.
It looks promising but what benefit is there for hubbers whom paypal is nt accepted in there countries.
Yay - no forced migration at a specific will allow for making payout before we join!
What, it's not ready yet?
Don't make me fly out there! Neither of us wants that scene or the inevitable lawsuits.
I am now a new in this Hubpages and hope every one tells me how to do with amazon. Thank you!
I'm having problems figuring out how/where to make a switch. I have both HubPages Ads and an active Amazon affiliate code. When I go to settings, I get a page that asks me if I have an active affiliate tracking ID and asks me to enter it.
What switch do I make, and where?
I don't think it's live and ready to go yet, someone correct me if I'm wrong...
I don't even get anything asking for me to enter an ID yet.
HubPages is going to advise when we do the 'roll-over' and cease using our own Amazon affiliates and start using the HP provided ones on the site.
Still no possibility of allowing us to tie our separate HP accounts together. Why would that be - when Amazon already offers that to its affiliates?
Does HP use the 40-60 commision sharing rule in this amazon capsules also? Will our total revenue be split between us and hp?
It sounds wonderful that we will get a higher commission.
Will they announce when the option is available?
I would recommend that they should announce when the option is available, so that all hubbers will know.
rochelj, That is what the "Official HubPages Announcements" forum is for. It's up to you to keep an eye on that.
If you specified in your email settings to allow HP to contact you, then you should also get the newsletter.
Glenn Stok, thanks for replying.
yes, I am recommending that when the option is available,
they should announce it in the "Official HubPages Announcements" forum
so that all will know.
It's a good idea to put it in the newsletter as well.
Just a friendly reminder.
Jason, I do have a question. Has there been any talk of getting other Amazon's in on this deal, as well? By that, I mean Amazon.ca and the U.K. Amazon. I know other sites have this capability, so that the buyer is directed to the domain in the country where they live. This would increase Amazon sales considerably for both HP and the writers.
I just wanted to ask again about the ability to use Amazon from other countries. Has this been considered, at all?
I use the amazon capsules. But I do not get how we can use the amazon associates program. I don't have a web business. It the amazon associates program more for that type of hubber.?
Jason -- I still have the same questions I posted four weeks ago.
I've stopped publishing on HP, and am checking back to see if making the HP Amazon program mandatory is being reconsidered. Because of the new HP TOS and the loss of financial transparency, I don't expect HP to be part of my plans for 2012.
It was an adventure.
Happy New Year, all.
I already have an Amazon Affiliated Program and want to switch to the Amazon Programm under HubPages. In my earnings settings there is no option to set up the new configuration. I am not sure if one can already set up the new configuration. I read the announcements and all the posts carefully, but cannot figure out how to switch.
I am surprised that we haven't at least gotten some sort of update about the Amazon issue. I am curious as to when it will take effect. December has come and gone, and still no news. It would have been nice to have that before the end of the Christmas shopping season...
Yeah, but try to imagine it from his desk. Amazon may not be getting back to him or if they are, he may be still trying to negotiate issues that might take some of the sting out of this for those who can be negatively affected.
It would be silly for him to say anything either way. If they are actively negotiating, he might even tick Amazon off if he said "We're trying to get..". If he's waiting for Amazon to drop a shoe, what good does it do to tell us that he is frustrated himself?
We'll know what we will know when we know it.
I realize that, but just like Jason said... "when you're working with another partner, things can work quite a bit slower than if you're doing them all by yourself."
I can imagine the nightmare HP must be having trying to negotiate all the fine details with Amazon, trying to appease all Hubbers with the issues brought up in this Forum.
From my point of view, I see why this is so slow in getting done. Hubbers who don't use Amazon outside of HP and are not in the top tier, will be happy to have it under HP and share the larger 8.5% commission. But there is a real issue for those who use Amazon on other websites and are in the 8.5% tier for all their combined traffic. When those people lose the additional traffic from HP, because it will be separate, their other commission may drop well below 8.5%. I see that this is a problem and I would not be surprised if HP might be trying to work out a solution with Amazon to account for this.
I may be stepping beyond my limits by having said this, but please note that this is only my own guess. I have no actual knowledge of what really is going on.
I understand your point, but at the very least a little post saying something like, "We are still working out the details, and we have not forgotten about you. Please be patient, and we will keep you updated." That wouldn't be too hard. A couple weeks is a long time to be kept in the dark without even a word.
Believe me, we haven't forgotten, but we haven't wanted to litter the forums with "no news yet." Please understand that we continue to work on this from our end, and we will notify the community once things are ready to move forward.
i have also been looking for the new Amazon program, i know it might not be good for some people but living in a State (CT) where Amazon has pulled out due to taxes on online sales i believe Amazon as a part of Hubpages earnings program would be great, at least i would get the chance to earn under Amazon like i do with eBay now! It's suppose to come out this month right?
Many a slip between the cup and the lip.
I would be happy enough if things stayed as they are.
How soon now? What will we see to know that the transition to the new format has taken place?
Interesting. Sounds like there are quite a few states that do this.
Thanks Jason - Appreciate that setting up a program like this is far from 'a piece of cake'!
Despite the difficulty in getting amazon sales for some, I think the amazon program here is under rated.
At one point I'd become so frustrated that I removed all of my amazon capsules - stupid move on my part.
Since the time that I became convinced that amazon was well worth my efforts - my personal amazon revenues have done nothing but increase.
Today, my Mom placed yet more orders for stuffs due to me giving her amazon gift cards.
Amazon is well worth your time, and even if you are NOT a sales type of writer.
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