Do you know what happens to total amount of text links allowed?

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   LindaSmith1posted 12 years ago

   Currently, we are allowed 2 text links within a hub for links to our website, blogs, or articles written elsewhere.
   
   But, if you don't join the HP Amazon program, do you know that those 2 Amazon text links are not extra ones? If you use 2 amazon links, then you have used up your quota of 2 personal links, which means you cannot link to your other external sites or blogs.

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      psycheskinnerposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      You can have a million links.  You just can't have more than two go to the same site unless it is a common non-commercial reference like Wikipedia.

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   LindaSmith1posted 12 years ago

   I said PERSONAL LINKS TO YOUR BLOG, YOUR WEBSITE, YOUR AMAZON PRODUCTS

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      psycheskinnerposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Yes.  And I answered that you can link to each one of these urls up to two times per hub to a sum total of as many links as you can jam on a page.  So, no problem.
      
      Please don't shout.

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   LindaSmith1posted 12 years ago

   Nope!  You are allowed 2 self promotional links, which include amazon if you do not join HP amazon program only.  The only exception is linking to your hubs or hubs of others.
   
   Straight from HP:  You may link to a personal site (affiliate site or personal domain), for promotional or other purposes, a maximum of two times.  If we determine that a site you are linking to more than twice is affiliate or for search engine optimization, your hub will be taken down as 'overly promotional'.

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      Marisa Wrightposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Linda, please listen to what people are telling you.  I agree it's ambiguous, but I can assure you the limit is two links to each personal site - you can link to as many sites as you like.
      
      So, say I have six personal sites, I can have two links to each site in a single Hub, which equals twelve links.
      
      I have a large number of Hubs where I have one or two links to several of my sites in a single Hub. I've never been moderated for any of those links.
      
      However, what you are saying about having two Amazon affiliate links (other than in capsules) is correct.  It's two links per domain, and Amazon is a domain.

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   relacheposted 12 years ago

   http://hubpages.com/faq/#overly_promotional

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   psycheskinnerposted 12 years ago

   Do you have a link to this change in policy?  Because I have never seen anything about non-Hubads and Hubads hubs differing in this area. I am pretty sure the policy linked above, as I summarized, applies to both.
   
   As I have said, twice, you can think to any one url twice per hub.  But you can have a sum total of links to outside urls that is unlimited.
   
   So there is not limit on links, only on links to the same url--where the limit is 2.

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   LindaSmith1posted 12 years ago

   What I posted came by email from hub pages team.
   
   If you even use photo capsules, and add link to amazon 2 times, that means you cannot put 2 links in text.
   
   But, if you are HP amazon program, then you can use the Amazon capsules to the hilt, plus have 2 links within the text like people are doing now.

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      psycheskinnerposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Yes.  You can link to Amazon twice.
      
      That is the same as ever.
      
      Hubads don't count towards that total.

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      relacheposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      The "no more than two links to the same domain per Hub" rule has been a standard, including links in photo capsules, for a long time now.
      
      From http://hubpages.com/learningcenter/Mode … romotional
      
      "Rule 1: Your Hub can have a maximum of 2 links to any one domain. Links in the image source field of images count toward this limit."

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      Bianuposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      I do not use HP ad program, but I use amazon capsules.
      
      I can link two times to a particular url. I can include as many different links as I want in a hub, so far they are not affiliate links or other disallowed links.
      
      You have just one hub published. Write some more and play about with the Links. The understanding is in the doing

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   LindaSmith1posted 12 years ago

   Nope
   
   You are allowed a maximum of two links to a given external domain, except in cases where you are linking to a reputable domain that is of general interest, and in which you have no personal stake.  For instance, you may link more than twice to sites like Wikipedia, open directories, news sites, etc.  This goes for HubPages as well.  You can link as many times as you'd like to HubPages, as long as the content to which you're linking is relevant to the topic of your hub. 
   
   You may link to a personal site (affiliate site or personal domain), for promotional or other purposes, a maximum of two times.  If we determine that a site you are linking to more than twice is affiliate or for search engine optimization, your hub will be taken down as 'overly promotional'.

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      relacheposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      If you can't understand that Amazon is as commercial a site as exists on the internet, there's not much any of us are going to be able to say to help you.

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   psycheskinnerposted 12 years ago

   Um, yes.  That's what we are saying.  that has been the rule for years.
   
   So what is your point?
   
   The only change is that Hubads don't count in that tally.

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   LindaSmith1posted 12 years ago

   Wait til the hub pages Amazon program starts. 
   
   Those personal links for those who don't jon, can be used for amazon, but then you have nothing left to link to personal blogs etc.  The amazon capsules will be for those who join the HP Amazon program.  I am referring to the new program coming, not your personal Amazon affiliate program that we now use.

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    psycheskinnerposted 12 years ago

    You simply are not understanding what everyone is telling you. 
    
    Any hub can link any number of times to other sites, so long as no more than 2 of those links are to the same commercial site.
    
    You can link twice to amazon *and* twice to your blog *and* twice to ebay *and* twice to etc
    
    This is not changing. Not for those opting into Hubads or those opting out.

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    LindaSmith1posted 12 years ago

    No, you can't and won't be able to.  I  clairified it.

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       psycheskinnerposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       If you entire evidence is the quote in your previous post, you are misreading it. That is a very old quote and its meaning has not changed.
       
       I was sent that exact quote for a hub with 20+ links 3 of which happened to be to sciencedirect.  I removed one of those sciencedirect links and the hub was re-published with the other 20+ links intact.
       
       I was not in hubads at the time.
       
       If this rule has *changed* you need to link to some source saying that it has changed.  I rather doubt it has.

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    LindaSmith1posted 12 years ago

    The email reply I posted, I just received in past week.
    
    In fact, I used 2 text links.    Then for photos, I posted source and the URL in source box.  Those URLs were for places that people could make the purchase, but nothing to do with me. It was simply my source for photo.
    
    I got unpublised as overly promotional.  They counted the photo source url as affiliate links even thought that was not what they were.  I even sent email explaining it, and just got a link sent back for overlypromotional hubs.  So I said the H with it, and removed the source of photo, and that made them happy.  So, I provided the source for photo,  and that goes agains you to, cause they call it an affilliate link even when not associated with that source, retailer, etc.

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    psycheskinnerposted 12 years ago

    You linked to amazon more than twice. You can't do that, no matter where on the hub the link comes from. 
    
    You can link to amazon twice and to a million other places twice as well.
    
    I am not sure how to make this any clearer. That has always been the rule.

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    LindaSmith1posted 12 years ago

    No, in fact, I had not linked to amazon at all.  I had linked to blog, and a website in text.  The photo capsule had links to the sources of photos, and they were counted as personal links. I had to delete that information in order for hub to be republished.

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       MelissaBarrettposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       How many pictures did you have from the same site? And were those from a site that you had linked within the hub? If I get more than two images from the same site, I  source at the bottom of the hub, because sourcing more than two photos from the same site would be considered overpromotional...and I don't want to worry about what is considered an affiliate or not.

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    LindaSmith1posted 12 years ago

    Melissa:  I two links in text for 2 different sites that were mine.  The photo URLs, Lets say one was for Modernfurniture dot net and the other was for webbed designs dot com.  Because those photo sources were listed, which are not affiliated with me, were considered be affiliate links. 
    
    I got another brainstorm today, which I will keep under my belt.  So bottom line to this story is
    
    If you join the hub pages amazon program under the ID they give you: You get 2 text links on top of the Amazon capsules, galore. 
    
    If you want to remain independent of HP with your Amazon, you get 2 personal links and that is it.

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       MelissaBarrettposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       *nods* Cool.  It's great that HP amazon program is gonna do that.  I wish they'd hurry up with it

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    LindaSmith1posted 12 years ago

    Melissa:  No, it is not cool.  HP wants your aricles but unless you join the HP Amazon program, your hands as an affiliate marketer are tied if you want to keep your personal affiliate account and get paid regularly, and keep track of what you are doing, etc.  Thank goodness there are other spots to post articles and do your affiliate marketing without having hands tied just because you won't join the club, not know what is going on, or how much you are really selling, and again, there we go with the HP minimum payout.

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    wavegirl22posted 12 years ago

    And this information is from someone who less than a week ago removed all his/her hubs except one. And then published 3 more. Within a day or two LindaSmith1 then deleted 3 of them (one of the newly deleted was the one that was left from the first purge) and now lo and behold LindaSmith1 is back up to 4 Hubs.
    And lets not forget how LindaSmith1 ranted and raved how there are so many better sites to move your content to.
    
    Now would you take advice from someone with this kind of activity?
    
    Or would you listen to Hubbers like relache and psycheskinner who actually know what they are talking about?
    
    I am still very curious to understand why LindaSmith1 is still here publishing, deleting and re publishing . .
    
    LindaSmith1 why are you still here is all I really want to know?

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       wildernessposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       The appearance is that she is here to rant, rave, and provide false information to newbies on the site that haven't learned not to listen to her.
       
       Relache and Psycheskinner have provided precise, correct information several times, but Linda continues to insist it is wrong.  Why else than to confuse a newbie and get them to leave HP?

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          IzzyMposted 12 years agoin reply to this

          You are assuming Lindasmith actually thinks!

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       Kangaroo_Jaseposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       Shari,
       
       It's the same reason why people have been helpful, made suggestions and/or tried to make points clear as mud.
       
       Some people will just refuse to accept that and keep hankering they are right and everyone else is wrong. If one insists with further help it is usually at their detriment, or the debate becomes heated and personal attacks are claimed when there is none.
       
       Some people are just not happy or satisfied. Some people do not do what they say they will and that's their choice.
       
       I myself no longer provide any help or assistance when it's not wanted.
       
       Hope life is treating you well Shari and be safe during this holiday season.

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          wavegirl22posted 12 years agoin reply to this

          KJ-
          Always a pleasure to read your words of wisdom. If ever there has been a Hubber here always ready with a helping hand it is you! Positive energy and smart suggestions always shine through. And just as that is true so is the reverse.
          
          I just do not like to see others 'playing games' around here. Many of us look at this as a business and when someone calls others out as well as has negative things to say in an ugly manner it just gets my goat.
          
          I have been keeping my eye on LindaSmith1 since the day she tried to get others to attack me. I will not stop watching where and what she does here on Hubpages till she is gone. Let this person come up with as many names and avatars as she/he wants. I got this ones number.

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    LindaSmith1posted 12 years ago

    Wilderness:  The information taht i provided came directtly form Hub pages team via email.

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    wavegirl22posted 12 years ago

    Wilderness . .
    
    SInce LindaSmith1 answers you and seems to ignore me every time I ask him/her why hubs get deleted to 1 .. then republishes .. then deletes and then republishes .. .Maybe you can get an answer . .
    
    Bottom line is why is LindaSmith1 still on Hubpages?

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       Cagsilposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       To be annoying? Why else.

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          wavegirl22posted 12 years agoin reply to this

          +1
          
          Personally I think that Hubpages deserves an apology from LindaSmith1 for all the bad mouthing that he/she has perpetrated around here !
          
          And then be gone!

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    LindaSmith1posted 12 years ago

    I then suggest that those who think they are the Elite and run the show, know it all, tell HP that they are giving out wrong information.  I copied and pasted the email response I got from HP.  You have no argument, So have fun showing your ignorance.

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       IzzyMposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       "You may link to a personal site (affiliate site or personal domain), for promotional or other purposes, a maximum of two times.  If we determine that a site you are linking to more than twice is affiliate or for search engine optimization, your hub will be taken down as 'overly promotional'."
       
       You are mistaking this reply to read that you can only add a maximum of two links per hub to another site.
       But the fact is (and it says), you may only link to the same domain twice.
       
       For example, Amazon.com is the same as amazon.com/affiliatelink~ or amazon.com/photo~.
       
       A domain ends with doc com or doc net or whatever. Any way you write it is still one domain.
       
       The rules clearly state no more than twice, and that includes photo capsules and rss feeds.
       
       And of course, you can still link to other sites within that hub, provided again there are no more than 2 links to each domain, with a few exceptions for authoritative sites.
       
       Why are you still here, anyway?

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    Pcunixposted 12 years ago

    OK, I'm too tired to read what you are complaining about, but I gather you are trying to stuff in more links.
    
    There are only two reasons that you could possibly think HP's policies on that are unreasonable.  One is that you want to use hubs to build link juice elsewhere.  The other is that you want to sell something.
    
    I don't see either use as appropriate for HP.   I don't mean in a moral sense, I just mean that those things aren't HP's bag.  Go do them somewhere else because you will keep running into obstacles here,
    
    I sell.  I sell my own stuff and I sell affiliate stuff.  I hardly ever put anything here that has anything to do with that.
    
    I'd say you want to turn a silk purse into a sow's ear.  HP is what it is, not what you want it to be.  If you can use it for what it wants to be used for, fine. If not, not.

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    ThoughtSandwichesposted 12 years ago

    Hi Wavegirl...um...I found this goat over in a comment capsule and I read that someone (we know who) got yours...
    
    Have a great Day!
    
    Thomas

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       Cagsilposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       

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    LindaSmith1posted 12 years ago

    The elite will have their fantasy bubble bursted soon, LOL!

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       Cagsilposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       And I am sure many people will certainly be happy when people quit spouting off their reading comprehension problems in the forums.

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          wavegirl22posted 12 years agoin reply to this

          ah thanks for the giggle on that one Ray. . I am still laughing. . .

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             Cagsilposted 12 years agoin reply to this

             Good to know I can still make you laugh(smile).

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                wavegirl22posted 12 years agoin reply to this

                always!

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                   Cagsilposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                   

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    LindaSmith1posted 12 years ago

    Ah, the know it alls.  Tell HP they gave out wrong information then.  Where I go, or where I sta

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       IzzyMposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       They didn't. You can't read.

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    LindaSmith1posted 12 years ago

    Nothing to do with forum.

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       wavegirl22posted 12 years agoin reply to this

       so when are you going to finally live up to your word?

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    Cagsilposted 12 years ago

    

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    LindaSmith1posted 12 years ago

    I posted the information given to me by HP.

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       wildernessposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       Yes you did.  And we all read it.  The only difference is that we actually read it with an eye to understanding it, not for the purpose of beating up on HP.
       
       As a result, we understand what it says, while you don't.  I personally don't see any reason at all to explain it again - that has already been done several times - as you don't care what it says.  Your only interest is in presenting a perceived (if entirely false) view of HP so you will continue to deny plain english and present your own "interpretation".
       
       Let it go, Linda - anyone reading this forum will understand that message and the multiple explanations quite well.  You won't convince them that HP is evil by continually spouting nonsense so you might as well wind back down and crawl back in to your self-dug hole.

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          PaulGoodman67posted 12 years agoin reply to this

          Wilderness - I wish you the best of luck with trying to talk some sense into Linda, but I strongly suspect that your words, like other people's, will just fall on deaf ears.

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       Bianuposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       I thought the purpose of your participating in the forum was to better understand Hubpages. Read the advice from other hubbers, if the one from HP is ambigious

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    LindaSmith1posted 12 years ago

    You are allowed a maximum of two links to a given external domain, except in cases where you are linking to a reputable domain that is of general interest, and in which you have no personal stake.

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       Marisa Wrightposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       If there really was a cap of 2 links to a single personal domain in any Hub, I wouldn't have 155 Hubs published, I'd have about 5.  So it's clearly not true.

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    dungeonraiderposted 12 years ago

    "Dungeons and Dragons promotes gang activity" - This simple untruth gained strength in Wisconsin and today prisoners in Wis. prisons are not allowed to play or own D&D material. 
    
    Isn't it funny how a few negative people can create a monster.  Some of the constantly negative spinners out there should be hoping HP doesn't acquire a high-priced legal team.  But then, I guess that's why people try to bring down anything popular, because they have nothing to lose themselves?

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    LindaSmith1posted 12 years ago

    You may link to a personal site (affiliate site or personal domain), for promotional or other purposes, a maximum of two times.
    
    2 personal links includes affilate links.  The affilaite links in hub is not separated from personal links.  2 is 2 is 2 TOTAL. So that means, those who sign up for this new Amazon affiliate program can list 10 products in Amazon capsules and still have the 2 personal links in text
    
    But, those who don't sigh up for the new program will be limited to 2  text links and that is it.

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       Rising Carenposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       While Linda's earlier statements were very confusing, some of them very erroneous, this one might have some true to it(if you just take out the whole 2 TOTAL thing, which still sounds wrong. Maybe linda just isn't writing in a way that really represents what he/she thinks).
       
       Hubpages' new program will eventually require a mandatory switch. For those who choose not to use the new program, this means their only amazon revenue would be the 2 links allowed.
       
       The "reputable" clause doesn't apply to amazon since it's not a site for information, right? So it's still limited to 2 for amazon.com
       
       I'm not sure how this relates to the original post, but this particular latest view doesn't seem wrong to me.
       
       I think it might be nice if Hubpages always gave the choice between either joining HP's amazon or using your own. I know at first they will, but they mentioned an eventual mandatory signup.
       
       It might be nice of them if the choice remained forever or if personal affiliate links to amazon.com would also be whitelisted like wikipedia, or be submitted to the same word count rule as the capsules, rather than using a strict 2perdomain limit.

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          Marisa Wrightposted 12 years agoin reply to this

          Well, yes - it will fall under the "2 links to any given domain" rule.  She's right there, but I doubt that's a surprise to most people.

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       psycheskinnerposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       As far as I can tell you are still wrong about the cap of 2.  And you still refuse to say where you got this weird idea from.  Anything is "possibly true" but it remains reasonable to assume it is false until there is some kind of evidence.

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