The Question of Suicide

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   gmwilliamsposted 8 years ago

   
   What circumstances and situations is suicide ever justifiable?  What legitimate reasons is there for suicide?   Do you contend that UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES is suicide ever justifiable?  What are YOUR thoughts, opinions regarding suicide?

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   psycheskinnerposted 8 years ago

   I think that if a person is in their right mind, and has a rational reason to want to end their life with no outside coercion it should be permitted. For example in the case of a progressive and terminal disease that leaves them with no enjoyment of life.

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   God shetposted 8 years ago

   what if - we were to live for ever?

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      Kathryn L Hillposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      If you commit suicide it is very bad Karma.* It shows you do not respect the Gift of life that God gave you. The Karma is this: To learn to appreciate a sound body, you reincarnate into a body which is not perfect. Once I worked with kids with pretty severe special needs. They were mentally disabled, autistic and some had downs syndrome. Many of the older teens and one in particular had a fascination with weapons, guns and knives.  One time the one wrapped a curtain cord around his neck and said, "BYE BYE, Cheyenne."
      
      I was pretty creeped out.
      
      *This consequence/karma is a given in metaphysics and esoteric teachings.

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         God shetposted 8 years agoin reply to this

         I meant ~ what if - we were to live in this very body for ever?

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         Say Yes To Lifeposted 8 years agoin reply to this

         Actually, according to the Near Death Experience site, terminally ill people who commit suicide go to heaven.

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            gmwilliamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

            Yes, Ms. Hill was addressing I believe is  willful suicide.  That is people who commit suicide to escape from their problems or a less than perfect life.  For example, a person has not succeeded in the way, h/she wants and is living a life far below his/her human potential.  H/she sees his/her life as one, long purgatorial angst.  So instead of living such a life, h/she believes that suicide is the alternative as such a life will be no longer.  What Ms. Hill is proposing is that suicide as an escape from a less than perfect life only incurs more negative karma as that person has to relive the events of his/her life yet again until the problem is solved.  I read such a premise in many books dealing with reincarnation and listening to some programs on the topic on some afterlife blog radio shows.

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            Kathryn L Hillposted 8 years agoin reply to this

            I would not agree, but then I have never known that type of pain. 
            
            http://news.yahoo.com/assisted-suicide- … 17734.html

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   ahorsebackposted 8 years ago

   Simple and sad fact , we will never understand suicide ! Nor control it either ,  It is simply too many different things ,  a cry for help in one attempt  , another is a absolute way out of a painful existence , you're not going to stop that one  if he so choses ,   Terminal sickness for one means they are really  not even going to "reach out " for help!   It is also already illegal in many states . I believe it will be around forever .

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   peeplesposted 8 years ago

   I think each person should be allowed to determine their own path. People seem to have a couple different reasons for being against suicide. I often see people say that if someone is depressed they shouldn't be allowed to commit suicide because they are not mentally stable. Yet if this same depressed person were to walk in a theater and kill 15 people they would still go to jail, depressed or not. So we can't really pick and choose on that aspect unless the person has become more delusional. Other people claim it is against their God. This also is an invalid argument because one person's view of their God may not be the same as the person wanting to commit suicide.
   Life can suck for many. If someone feels the only way to solve the problem is through suicide I am not one to stop them. Life is different for each of us. I saw someone commit suicide when I was in foster care.Just as I was looking out of my window I could see him through his window kicking a chair out from under himself. I could not get to him (boys and girls were separated into different wings of the building). I ran to staff and told then ran back to my room. By the time they got to him it was too late. He was a 13 year old boy who was in the facility because he had sexually abused his little sister, he had a ton of guilt, and his parents never came to visit him. At the time this devastated me. I look back on it now and think he was way too young to make an informed decision, but it isn't my place to dictate what anyone else should think, feel, or do. Life is personal.

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      ahorsebackposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Peeples  ,  That is so sad , I don't know anyone with any humanity at all that wouldn't  or shouldn't try to council someone against taking their own life , Especially a  13 year old .

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      IslandBitesposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Agree 100%.

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   Kathryn L Hillposted 8 years ago

   In the news today.
   
   http://www.christiantoday.com/article/a … /64347.htm
   
   His wife said they could have worked through it.  What would cause such a man in this position to take his own life? I think it is a matter of extreme self-orientation.
   He could have cared more about others. His family is devastated.

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   Kathryn L Hillposted 8 years ago

   My friend's mother had dementia and got to the point where she really didn't want to live. She had very little appetite and one day her daughter exclaimed, "Mom, if you don't eat, you could die!"
   This made sense to the woman and she stopped eating.
   
   I've heard that in some Native American tribes, once an older woman got to the point where she was quite feeble, she would set off for the mountains to die alone.
   
   On the other hand, my 83 year old neighbor had become so sick that it seemed her time was up; but after a year, her health returned. Even though she looks older and is thinner now, she is strong enough to have another garage sale.

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   Live to Learnposted 8 years ago

   It's a hard question. One should have the right to make decisions for themselves but, other than in the case of terminal illness I can't imagine being able to find a way to set up a system where we could ensure that the person contemplating suicide was making a sound choice for themselves. I personally know of no suicides which weren't tragic examples of humans who wrongly believed their lives were ruined. Each one ruining the lives of those around them because the ones left living would always wonder what they could have done to prevent it.

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