Dont forget the whales!!!!!

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   saltposted 14 years ago

   Please think about the current International whaling discussions in Morrocco and wish for the best outcomes for our planets whales. They need our support. In a time in history when we are polluting the ocean, attempting to put gas and petroleum plants on or near whale nurseries as on the Kimberley coastline of WA. Please make an effort to wish our whales well.

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      Sab Ohposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      And pray for the chickens! These noble creatures must be worshipped, not made into yummy, yummy snacks! And carrots! Oh, honorable carrots how we hath forsaken thee!
      
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         saltposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         very true sab oh, if chickens were not bred for food, in cages in big sheds with growth hormones, they may indeed be needing help. The question with chickens is - has all the man made additives in their feed and our disrespect for their natural being distorted the species so much that the chicken we eat is not the chicken that would have existed in the wild?
         
         I thought we might have converted you about the magnificent whales and their true plight.

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            Sab Ohposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            I certainly don't want to see the whales go extinct. They're delicious!

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      vaguesanposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      On the scale of things we should be saving, I wouldn't put whales at the top. First would come humans.

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         Polly Cposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         The majority of the problems in the world are in fact caused by humans, though often not the ones who suffer the most.
         
         So many of the endangered species in the world would not be in peril if not for the actions of humans... Even the rainforests are in danger because of human activity. However, eco systems like rainforests are necessary for the planet to function effectively. Global warming has endangered the lives of polar bears. These creatures are often starving to death because of their declining habitat. But if polar bears really do eat whales, then that is nature, whereas culling whales is not.

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            torimariposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            Exactly. We are parasitic animals.

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               Pearldiverposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               Wow! That's Harsh!
               But Don't 'Tick' yourself Off So Badly!
               Thank the big guy that we don't have wings to go with our bloodlust!

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                  torimariposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                  Well, we are. We definitely sap the world for more than it is worth--more than we need. Does it make us evil? No. Greedy. Yes.
                  
                  Big guy up there? Well, he's not my god so no thanks, but wings would be pretty fun.
                  
                  "Greed and desire are part of our nature."
                  Exactly, which will be our downfall if earth doesn't have enough with us first.

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                     Polly Cposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                     Agreed. In the end, we rely on the planet for survival just as much as any other species.. For example, rainforests absorb huge amounts of carbon dioxide, yet if they die then they will release it all back into the atmosphere...then will we be worried? I think so. Right now, though, parts of them are being destroyed, for man's own gain.

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            Sab Ohposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            Humans aren't part of 'nature'?

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               Polly Cposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               Yes, of course they are, but unfortunately a lot of the things they do are not necessary for their survival but more for their own greed and desire.

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                  Sab Ohposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                  Greed and desire are part of our nature.

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            saltposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            bravo..

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         kerrygposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Humans don't exist in a vacuum, unconnected to anything else. We rely on healthy, functioning ecosystems for air, water, food, medicines, and more. Think of the world like a suspension bridge. We can keep carelessly snapping cable and for awhile, it will hold up. But eventually, we'll snap one too many, and the whole thing will come tumbling down around our ears.
         
         Interesting new research on the role of whales: http://news.discovery.com/animals/whale … gases.html

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            Sab Ohposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            "Humans don't exist in a vacuum,"
            
            Good thing. That would suck.
            
            
            
            
            
            
            
            
            
            
            
            
            
            
            
            
            
            
            
            
            
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               kerrygposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               Har har har.

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   Pearldiverposted 14 years ago

   Good on you mate, I agree!
   
   As the talks have broken down and dollars change hands behind closed doors.. the whales are once again not given a fair hearing... let alone the opportunity to attend!
   
   Perhaps it is time to turn the tables completely and have our politians turpedo the whalers directly at these old boy club meetings, instead of humouring them. They are Not Wanted in our Southern Ocean.

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   tobey100posted 14 years ago

   If you're gonna protect the whales you're gonna have to get rid of polar bears.  I found out they eat whales.  What a mess!  I guess we'll just have to choose one over the other.

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      kerrygposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Why don't you stop being a troll and go read a science book? Polar bears scavenge the carcasses of whales who died from natural causes. No comparison whatsoever in methods or impacts to a factory whaling ship.
      
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMk6KvXyNDE

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   Flightkeeperposted 14 years ago

   We shouldn't forget the Inuits either!

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   Mark Knowlesposted 14 years ago

   You right wing kristians can stop worrying and being so damned sentimental.
   
   Eventually there will just be white humans left on the planet. Then you will be happy - right?

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   Flightkeeperposted 14 years ago

   We also shouldn't forget the Norwegians!

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   Flightkeeperposted 14 years ago

   If we just do things that are necessary to our survival, we'd still be back in the stone age and not the 21st century.

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   tobey100posted 14 years ago

   Since as far as I know there are no members of my extended family that are whales (except maybe Aunt Ruth) I'm not really worried about the whales.  I thought all evolutionists believed in survival of the fittest?  Since man is obviously the fittest I say whaleburgers for everyone!

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      PrettyPantherposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Perhaps survival of the fittest involves using our intelligence to protect the habitat in which we live.  Maybe those humans who refuse to do so will eventually be extinct.    Let's hope they don't take all humans with them.

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         alternate poetposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Intelligence is the evolutionary edge we have, if we don't start to use it soon in regard to the whole planet, including not losing the whales, then we could be facing our own extinction.  I know this is hard to understand for those who still think at the primeval level, it requires the ability to see a bigger picture rather than our own superficial greed.

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            Sab Ohposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            Ah yes, if a single whale gets eaten humanity is doomed. 

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               Mark Knowlesposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               Probably too big a concept for you TK Sensei, but I will attempt to explain:
               
               The problem is when all the whales get eaten.

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                  tobey100posted 14 years agoin reply to this

                  The rest of the ocean inhabitants will have a lot more room and millions of krill will survive another day.  What about protecting them?

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                     Mark Knowlesposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                     Dear me.

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                     kerrygposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                     Wow, way to fail Biology 101.

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                     rebekahELLEposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                     they do play a role in the ocean's ecosystem...  
                     
                     http://www.scribd.com/doc/15418569/Pred … -ecosystem

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   Sab Ohposted 14 years ago

   A wise man once said, "I certainly don't want to see the whales go extinct. They're delicious!"

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      alternate poetposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      No - I think that was a fool,  I saw it earlier up this page.

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         Sab Ohposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         You're not going to resort to personal insults AGAIN, are you?

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    Richieb799posted 14 years ago

    Don't forget the country of Wales

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       alternate poetposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       I don't think sheep are on the extinct list yet boyo !

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    saltposted 14 years ago

    thankyou for all the wonderful and powerful points made. Sab oh, I dont think it would be the same without you here. There must be someone to give voice to the opposing thought stream. It helps reinforce the real and valid comments made by those that have made the effort to educate themselves and care about the planet they reside on.

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    kaizan28posted 14 years ago

    if whales were bred like chickens, would it still be a problem? The only thing that will stop whales going extinct is more whale sex, give the whales viagra!!
    http://hubpages.com/hub/a-waste-of-whale-meat

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