It depends on our held Concept, of Reality ...
For if we are from among the Seculars ... meaning, those who do not Believe in God, and His Creation, and rely on their brains or feigned ignorance ... Then only Material Things ... Objects ... are Real ... Meaning, only physical objects can, or should, Exist.
For in Rational Cognitions, Objects Compose ... what is a Self-Existent, Physical Reality, of a purely Physical Universe ... !
In Islam ... The Truth, of the Existential Reality of Creation, Transcends the Physical, and Material States of The Created ... the Created Physical, Exists simultaneously, within The Ordained, Ideal ...
Thus, we only Know, and See, as far as, we have been Granted, by way of the Definitive Concepts ... Nouns, Defining The Created ... in our Destined Experiential of the Physical Reality.
Human Known, Is, in, The Divine Grant, of Knowledge, Granted by The Creator ... Including His Concept ... The Nouns, Defining His Creation ... to His Created ... Humans.
But supposing we take the seculars Theory of Dark Matter ... or the Aliens and Relativity ... these are similar to the non-believers other Assumptions ... which are essentially Logical speculations, within a Physical Prejudice ... not the Reality.
Because, their Prejudice, is rooted in Rational Cognitions of Creation ... from where they draw Theoretical Premises ... in Physical's based logical assumptions ... viz. That 1 apple+1 apple = 2 apples, while Ignoring The Creation of Apples ... they, call a Spade ... the Spade !
But their Prejudices do not stop with apples ... they go on to cross the apples, in hoping to come up with Pears, they could call their creation of In vitro life form !
I will take it ... and am happy, you enjoyed your first meeting with Existential's Reality ...
ask me again tomorrow and see if the answer changes (probably will too)
Here's a "simple" answer: "One can only guess."
There, that covers it!
I'd say what happens inside of a black hole; because it's where our understanding of physics really ends
If you're interested - and have an hour to kill; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTjUqI6W3yQ is the best attempt I've seen to try to explain.
Might hurt your head a bit. It just about killed my brain off when they started on the holographic principle...
Thank you. Maybe I will and maybe I'll just pound my head on my desk for five minutes....probably accomplish the same results.
yeah right sure - I'll get on that right away
I love it when you get all existential... and zen... and relativist...
all that philosophy stuff
Reality that is unknown to us. Parallel realities abound. What our senses don't grasp - we call it not real, abnormal. But there are other realities that are there, scientists will agree with that, super sensitive people like artist will, too.
In the end, all reality is, is the interpretation of different vibrations, translated by our senses into the pictures and sounds we perceive inside ourselves (Peter Russell has written about the futile efforts of scientists to nail down other aspects of reality).
So, reality is also in essence perceptual. Once I perceive it, it is real for me. As long as I haven't perceived it, it is not part of my reality.
That leads to the concept that reality is highly individual. I can perceive different things than other people, based on my world view. I can also perceive the same thing differently (think about babies, for instance, some people perceive them as cute and cuddly, others as a crying pain in the butt, others as a menace to their freedom, etc.).
There are no two people on earth which share identical realities. And yet, we're constantly trying to convince others that our reality is the only true one. Such a funny comedy, when you think about it...
I so agree but no-one has so far answered the question.
from: http://freedosphere.wordpress.com/2010/ … y-paradox/
Reality is existence. To be outside Reality is to be non-existent.
The question is "What is outside reality?"
Outside reality is nothing but going astray, void or falsehood.
The holy Qur'an says:
Say: "Who is it that sustains you (in life) from the sky and from the earth? or who is it that has power over hearing and sight? And who is it that brings out the living from the dead and the dead from the living? and who is it that rules and regulates all affairs?" They will soon say, "Allah". Say, "will ye not then show piety (to Him)?" (10:31)
Such is Allah, your real Cherisher and Sustainer: apart from truth, what (remains) but error? How then are ye turned away? (10:32)
Thus is the word of thy Lord proved true against those who rebel: Verily they will not believe. (10:33)
Say: "Of your 'partners', can any originate creation and repeat it?" Say: "It is Allah Who originates creation and repeats it: then how are ye deluded away (from the truth)?" (10:34)
Say: "Of your 'partners' is there any that can give any guidance towards truth?" Say: "It is Allah Who gives guidance towards truth, is then He Who gives guidance to truth more worthy to be followed, or he who finds not guidance (himself) unless he is guided? what then is the matter with you? How judge ye?" (10:35)
But most of them follow nothing but fancy: truly fancy can be of no avail against truth. Verily Allah is well aware of all that they do. (10:36)
It is not possible to be 'outside'of reality - reality is just one person's perception of what is around them - other realities may differ, but they are just different perceptions of the same environment. Semantically it is possible to be outside of reality because we are all partly outside everyone else's reality.
Interesting post, but I do think many from the scientific community would beg to differ with you about "reality" itself. But, appreciate the input.
I am not sure what 'scientists' you are talking about, or if you understand what 'reality' is. I suspect you are applying your own meaning to the word - Shahid has given you a good answer, a little hard to understand I guess, given that he is clearly unconfined by the narrow constraints of western thinking, but with a bit of effort . . . .
The question is ambiguous and therefore meaningless.
It could refer to a reality that is thought to be outside [adjective] and be asking what is that type of reality: i.e. what is a reality that is external to an internal reality, well, the answer then depends on what we define as being "internal" and what as "external"
Or it could refer to something standing outside [preposition] of reality and be asking what things/persons/concepts are external to what is defined as being real, in which case the answer depends on what we define as "reality" in opposition to "unreality".
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