Re: very short hubs

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   Eileen Hughesposted 13 years ago

   How come people are putting such small hubs up?
   
   I do not normally hop , but decided to have a look.
   I saw one advertising to make furniture out of recycled wood. advertising that they could make them.
   with about 100 words and 1 picture.
   
   The other one had two pictures with about 200 words.
   
   Just thought they had to have 400 words except for poetry etc.

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      Dobsonposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Perhaps it is a summer thing. I find myself tugged away from writing longer hubs due to so many other things going on...

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         Marisa Wrightposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Dobson, just bear in mind that shorter Hubs won't do much.  If you're finding you can't write a Hub that's a decent length, it's better not to write the Hub. Though your Hubs look like a reasonable length to me.

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   WryLiltposted 13 years ago

   I think that hubpages systems only flag the hub if it's a short piece of text - pictures count as content too. However I usually flag short hubs...

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      camloposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      But why? If the too short Hub isn't SPAM or Porn or whatever, and is well enough written, what harm does it do? It could even be a useful piece of information.
      The only negative thing I've heard about short Hubs, is that they don't do well on Google, and therefore probably don't make money.
      My short stories, which might have up to 4000 words, don't make any money either, so what's the difference?

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         WryLiltposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         There is a section of the flagging button (under low quality I believe) that says "Personal." That's what a lot of the 2-3 sentence hubs with a picture are from what I've seen.
         
         I also assume yours are in the "creative writing" category, while many short hubs on the hopper are not.

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            camloposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            I just took a look, but only find SPAM, Adult and Abuse ... maybe I'm looking in the wrong place. But I have read somewhere that Hubs shouldn't be personal.
            
            Anyway, I don't see why a Hub should be flagged just because it is short.
            
            My stories are under Entertainment, since they're not literary works in a way people might expect under the Creative Writing category.

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   WryLiltposted 13 years ago

   Adult
   Contains nudity, lewd or provocative images, excessive profanity, sexually explicit content, or contains links to adult or pornographic sites
   
   Spam
   Designed primarily to promote other sites, especially hubs containing unrelated links, links on duplicated content, or more than two links to a single site
   
   Abuse
   Has been promoted using spam, including email, comment, blog, wiki or other types of bulk unsolicted messages
   
   Low Quality
   Is very short, contains a large number of broken links or videos, or consists of unoriginal, nonsensical, difficult to read, or purely personal content
   
   Miscategorized
   Incorrectly categorized, has a misleading title, or has unrelated or excessive tags
   
   Not written in English
   Primarily written in a language other than English
   
   Gambling
   Promotes gambling or links to sites that promote or offer gambling for money
   
   Other
   Violates our Terms of Use in a way other than those listed above, including violations of the Google AdSense Content Policy

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   Kangaroo_Jaseposted 13 years ago

   When looking and determining a Hub I look at them from the view of 'cream rises, crap sinks' and vote with my clickity-clack accordingly.

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   camloposted 13 years ago

   Okay. Very short is low quality ...
   Do you know how short is TOO short? I've seen Hubs with about 50 to 100 words that were quite interesting.

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      Kangaroo_Jaseposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Yup, have come across about 6 Hubs with one photo and less than 12 words on each. EVEN those 12 words had NOTHING to do with the title.....sheesh.

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         camloposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Well, that's different. Could a 12 word Hub even be considered a Hub, since Hubs should be Articles?

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            Kangaroo_Jaseposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            I do not feel so, since these dozen words were somewhat of a personal note, rather than an article.

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               camloposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               Well then, according to the rules, those Hubs should be flagged, and they can't add anything worthwhile to the site.

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   shabarigirishposted 13 years ago

   Flagging the hub based on their quality of contents and not based on their length makes some sense. WryLilt I hope you read them before you put a flag.
   
   Hubs with 12 words! I suggest, HP shouldn’t allow publishing any hub with less than 50 words at least and some one should review the quality of hub which has 50-300 words.

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   Nelle Hoxieposted 13 years ago

   I never know what to do with the short hubs. Someone from HP said if hubs with pics and a few sentences were in the "Photo Gallery," then they are okay.
   
   If the few sentences are well written, I leave them alone. I figure the search engines will ignore them. But if they're spun junk or spammy, I flag them.
   
   I wish we could have clearer guidelines from HP on this - especially since they want us to help them out and Hub Hop.

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   camloposted 13 years ago

   Something just occurred: When I'm writing a Hub (okay, haven't done it for some time), then click on save but not publish when it's not finished (it's been so long, I don't know what that button's actually called), I get a warning that says the Hub is too short and might be flagged. So, from this alone we should know how short is too short, and those who publish those 12 word Hubs must also know they're bound to be flagged.

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   Rochelle Frankposted 13 years ago

   Flagging a hub technically has NO effect on the hub status.
   
   It is only a way to catch the attention of the staff.
   They make the decision.

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    travelespressoposted 13 years ago

    After reading this forum I had another foray into hubhopping.  Now I know why I haven't done it for awhile. 
    
    So many short hubs with no photos or graphics of any kind.   I tried to read a few but they were very boring.  I gave up after looking at about a dozen.

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    rebekahELLEposted 13 years ago

    I'm sure 50-100 words is not considered an acceptable hub, even if it's interesting. people use HP for backlinks also, maybe they think they can get away with what some other sites allow. here's what it says about substandard hubs.
    
    Substandard simply means that the quality of the hub does not live up to HubPages standards. Below are some common reasons that a hub may be moderated as substandard:
    
        * "Test" or otherwise unfinished hubs
        * Very little content
        * Unoriginal or purely personal content
        * Contributes nothing new in a heavily saturated topic
        * Many broken links or links to low quality sites
        * Links with deceptive or inaccurate link text
        * Missing videos
        * Use of photos that are heavily pixelated or contain prominent watermarks
    
    
    It would be nice to see more clarification on "very little content" and "purely personal content".  I've seen plenty of hubs with purely personal content. how personal, what does this mean?

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       livelongerposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       I would say personal that has value/interest to someone who doesn't know you is still very much acceptable. I've read "useful" personal accounts on hubs that were excellent reads, still very insightful and meaningful even though I don't know the Hubber.
       
       I think the substandard stuff is the kind of personal blog-like hub that just has a rundown of their day ("I fed the dog this morning, and watched some TV. Then I went to go pick up the kids and take them to swim practice"...) that is absolutely meaningless unless you already know the person. This is the stuff that should be on a personal blog and not on HubPages.

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    Eileen Hughesposted 13 years ago

    To me this first one was just to sell his article, which I didnt think that you could do.

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       rebekahELLEposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       yes, I would flag the first one also.

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    thisisoliposted 13 years ago

    I tend to flag Hubs based on their quality not their length.

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    Whitney05posted 13 years ago

    If they're spammy, just flag them.

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