When the bullied retaliate

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  1. profile image0
    Baileybearposted 13 years ago

    http://www.watoday.com.au/wa-news/youtu … 1bx3m.html

    Apparently both boys got suspended.  I can totally see how the bigger boy snapped. Sure, he went overboard, but I doubt anyone will attempt to bully him again

    1. qwark profile image60
      qwarkposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      I love the program: "Bully Beat down!"
      I just wish they'd get busy and make some more of them.
      I'm getting tired of watching the same "bullies" getting a beat down.
      Up with "Bully Beat Down!"
      Qwark

      1. optimus grimlock profile image59
        optimus grimlockposted 13 years agoin reply to this

        I love that show to!!! I was always taught you dont start the fight you finish it! Thats what i'll teach my kids and the'll be the small cocky ones smile I dont condone fighting sometime you have no other choice!

        1. qwark profile image60
          qwarkposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          Hi Optimus:
          ...couldn't agree more!
          I hope the producers of the show realize that there are those of us who love it and "Mayhem" makes more of 'em!
          Fingers crossed!  smile:
          Qwark

  2. dingdondingdon profile image58
    dingdondingdonposted 13 years ago

    I heard about that. Of course, it's not a good thing that the bully was attacked, but I admit to feeling a guilty swell of satisfaction when the victim went for him. It was certainly not the first time that little kid had picked on the boy, and he obviously never thought that the victim would fight back. Hopefully he'll grow up a bit after this.

    1. profile image0
      Baileybearposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      the 'turn-the-other-cheek' walk-away advise schools give doesn't stop bullying.   They go for anyone that doesn't stand up to them.  Hopefully this boy has learnt his lesson (and others at his expense)

  3. Charles James profile image67
    Charles Jamesposted 13 years ago

    My niece was a goody two shoes gentle sweet lass of about 14 years. She was bullied over months by the class bitch, who had no hesitation in using violence as well as nastiness.

    The bitch hit her once too often. My niece snapped and with one punch knocked her down and gave her a black eye.

    My niece spent a week expecting to be called to the Head Teachers office for suspension or expulsion. All the teachers saw the black eye. Everyone knew who had done it.

    Knowing the reputations of the two participants the school sensibly decided that the other girl got what she deserved, and took no action. My niece had no more trouble.

    1. profile image0
      Baileybearposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      great outcome

  4. kirstenblog profile image77
    kirstenblogposted 13 years ago

    I work at a primary school. They have anti-bullying campaigns all the time. I think it is a good thing even tho it does turn into a form of bullying itself, the 'I am telling on you that you bullied me cause you wont play my game' thing. Anyone with two braincells to rub together should figure this out pretty quick tho so I think its a good thing. I was always told that bullying was 'character building', funny how it tore down my character more then it built it up hmm

    Only fight I ever got into as a kid was with a bully. He threw his heavy book bag at my head and I snapped, and I got in trouble for it too boot. Everyone felt sorry for this boy I guess cause a girl made him cry lol

  5. Charles James profile image67
    Charles Jamesposted 13 years ago

    A family I know had two boys. The elder boy, "A", was tough, and was known to be the toughest lad in the high school. He was also attractive and pleasant and the girls all liked him.

    "A" left school early to take up an apprenticeship. His little brother "B" entered the school the following term.

    On B's first day he was approached in the dining hall by a former class mate of A, a lad around 5 years older. This lad did not like A, and explained to B that he was going to make B's life a misery. While he was still spelling out all the horrible things he was going to do to B, B hit him so hard he fell to the floor. The lad had not realised that because B had practiced fighting against A all his life he was a tougher proposition than the average 11 year old.

    The incident happened in the full view of several staff. The 16 year old was invited by the Head Teacher to explain why an 11 year old on his first day had been motivated to hit him. Enough of the truth came out that the Head Teacher told the lad that if he so much as glanced at B, in school or out, he would be expelled immediately. So as well as a darned hard punch and the public humiliation of being decked by a first year, the lad received a strong telling off and progressed from no disciplinary history to final warning.

    Then B was told what had been said to the lad, was told that the lad had promised to leave him well alone, and that B was in no danger from the lad or his friends. He was told that the school understood what had happened and why and there would be no punishment, only an apology from the school that such threats had been made to him on the first day by someone who should know better.

    And B was asked not to hit anyone in school again because violence was against the school ethos, as was bullying. If he had problems the proper route was to tell his form teacher or Head of Year. They would deal with it quickly.

    No doubt it was because of the anti-bullying policy that no-one else ever attempted to bully B.

  6. frogdropping profile image77
    frogdroppingposted 13 years ago

    I was rather disturbed yesterday by an incident at my daughter's high school.

    Yesterday afternoon, in her religious instruction class, a teen boy was acting up. The teacher threw him out, but not before she stopped him and nastily declared that he 'made her sick. That he was disgusting, that his intelligence was disgusting, that he looked disgusting'. The whole class was mortified.

    A few weeks previous, the same teacher delivered a similar level of humiliation to a girl that reminded her that she needed releasing from school early due to an appointment.

    Perhaps others would disag that humiliating pupils is not a form of bullying. To my mind it is. And if this is what children are being exposed to by members of staff then it's hardly a wonder that they themselves go on to do the same and worse.

    Bullying in children is horribly prevalent and leaves me sickened. When adults are doing it, it leaves me speechless.

    1. Eaglekiwi profile image74
      Eaglekiwiposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Is that teacher still teaching?

      It is disgusting and even more so if she/he is still in a position of authority.


      My son was once a victim of bullying. Good school.good reputation,but sadly bullying exists everywhere.

      I noticed he was withrawn for a few days ,but of course 14yr boys seldom complain to mummy about such things.

      A week passed I get a call from the assistant principle..M has been involved in an altercation...Yikes turns out it had been going on for some weeks,longer than I thought.
      The guy in charge of the 'Taking a stand against Bullying Team' heard confessions from two boys (one was much older than my son) and after this little meeting those two boys agreed to opologise to my son and quit the bullying. My son would not shake their hand and walked out of the room.

      The elite team leader was concerned and suggested my son seek counselling.
      I replied I suggest you need a reality check ,those boys that just opologised are txting and laughing about in the carpark as we speak. They are over the moon with their little slap on the wrist.

      My guess too is they will be heros by Monday.

      I will never advocate violence in any form, but some anti bullying programmes support the bully and not the victim.

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      Baileybearposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      I did teaching for a short time, and bullying came from senior management to teachers and students.  Was disgraceful

  7. rebekahELLE profile image85
    rebekahELLEposted 13 years ago

    wow, the hypocrisy is roaring hot in this one. Did you politely (hmm) call the school and ask that your daughter be switched from that classroom?

  8. frogdropping profile image77
    frogdroppingposted 13 years ago

    @ Rebekah and Eagle - I imagine she remains. She lost the respect of her students when she humiliated the girl re leaving her class early. The kids were cringing, especially when she then left the class-room and went next door, loudly repeating her disdain that could be overheard.

    There appear to have been a few other incidents. One whereby she berated a pupil for being a few minutes late (everyone in the class felt this justififed, she was late after all) but then the teacher promptly wandered off into the corridor and struck up a conversation with her daughter (a pupil at the school) and a colleague - keeping the class waiting.

    I haven't yet spoken to the school head. My daughter is squirming at the thought of her name being dragged in. I explained to her that if the event had been directed at her I'd have raised Cain. However I don't see much of a difference between my daughter and the child of another. And besides which - I don't believe any child should be witness to an adult behaving in a less than professional manner.

    And yes - I'm qualified to say this as I've been exposed to hundreds of situations whereby I would not have been though ill of had I lost control and verbally lashed out. There are no excuses.

    1. Eaglekiwi profile image74
      Eaglekiwiposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      There are some things that push my buttons and this is one of them.

      Some schools institutions like to think they are above the law.

      This is verbal abuse ,and they should matter of a factly be bought to task.

      Maybe then our kids will see there is a reliable standard and feel respected and safe to achieve to their full potential.

      I would also wager that the women teacher in question would not fare as well (verbally) among her own peers.

      Defination bully therefore is apt.

      @Frogs ,I hear what you are saying ,its the principle that matters after all.

  9. rebekahELLE profile image85
    rebekahELLEposted 13 years ago

    exactly. I understand how your daughter wouldn't want your involvement reflected on her, and sadly, that's probably a huge reason more parents don't speak up with situations as you've described.
    Teachers have bad moments, but a teacher yelling and talking to any student like that deserves to be reported. She seriously needs a teacher 'time out' or a new job. An administrator worth half of her salary would make sure it never happened again. Parents need to speak up when situations like this take place.
    The irony of it being a religious instruction class is almost laughable if it wasn't so unacceptable. hmm

  10. Flightkeeper profile image66
    Flightkeeperposted 13 years ago

    Frankly that smaller kid asked for it.  The bigger kid didn't retaliate until he got punched twice then hurled the little creep down and walked away.  It's dumb that the bigger kid got suspended but the prissy school has no common sense even when it's played right in front of them.

  11. Beelzedad profile image59
    Beelzedadposted 13 years ago

    My son is football player. One day a bully started picking on him in front of my sons friends. He ignored him at first, which is what I taught him to do, but soon the bully became belligerent and started pushing.

    My son tackled him to the ground with one his moves and said to him, "When you decide to grow up, join a football team and we'll see just how far you can push me on the field."

    The bully got up and ran away crying.

    My son's friends cheered. smile

    1. wilderness profile image95
      wildernessposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Now that's a neat story.  You have a smart son!

      1. Beelzedad profile image59
        Beelzedadposted 13 years agoin reply to this

        Thanks. I was very proud of him when he told me that, I was grinning from ear to ear.

  12. Disturbia profile image59
    Disturbiaposted 13 years ago

    I was small and "weird" when I was a kid and bullied by just about everybody.  Red haired with coke bottle glasses, it was a horror show.  I had to learn to stand up for myself, fight the fights I thought I could win, and just let the rest roll off my shoulders.  I think I'm a much stronger person for having lived through those experiences.  I don't fault anybody for putting a bully in their place.

    1. qwark profile image60
      qwarkposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      ...and now?
      I know! you're gorgeous and fight in the UFC!
      Right?
      I hope I am!  smile:
      Qwark

 
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