No conclusions Just a question.
- brotheryochananposted 12 years ago
0The bible is the second worst hate filled psychotic book of lies the world has ever seen, the quoran tops it by a few percentile points.
and slasher movies are lauded as good entertainment
and fights are okay in hockey games
and murder would be okay if the a**hole deserved it
and rape might not be such a terrible thing if a woman did it to a man or a man found himself in a situation of crossed signals, a few drinks and a really short skirt on the girl in your car.
Finger pointing is hilarious. Everybody likes to think the person next to them is worse than them, but many people are just fortunate enough not to have their boundaries tested, or when they do, its okay for them, but not anyone else.Slasher movies don't make claims to be written at the behest of a god fer gawds sake!
What a pathetic argument!at the behest of a God?
You make it sound like God is the criminal here.
God didn't foreordain the rapes
God didn't foreordain the murders
He gave people a choice. Even before the Hebrews went into canaan and camped before the city of jericho.. god had his people circumcised and then they had a two week feast of passover - giving the people inside jericho ample time to consider who and what was coming at them, but instead they took confidence in their walls and shut the gate. None came out. None sided with Gods people. How can you say that God is merciless when biblical evidence like this is blantantly in your face. Of course you never interpreted this on your whirlwind 30yrs of bible study.
Just like in our society. We still have the death penalty for a few things. Jail for most. When Gods people were walking around in the wilderness they did not have jails, or permanent homes. They had tents.. tents.. cloth and tent pole tents... no jails.. So God couldn't say.. lock this person up for 12 yrs because they were on the move again. They did not actually settle until they were in Canaan which was occupied by unGodly nations, at which point in the book of joshua God set up a prison system.
A parent does the best they can do for their children. Parents want the best for their child. God wants the best for His people.
The OT shows clearly that God is a god of judgment and reprocussion for disobedience. Jesus shows clearly that all can be saved and enter into the things of God. At the same time this clearly states that those who do not enter into the things of God will not be saved and judgment will happen.
There are no pathetic arguments just pathetic interpretations and misguided perceptionsHow do you manage to take the words written plainly in your "good" book and change the meaning to be entirely different?
Majik!
Yes, all 38,000 reported denominations of Christlikeians have been informed of the falseness. They each agree each of the other denominations information is false.
See? You just made my point.
Now you contradict yourself, you just stated above that it is the personal relationship with god that informs you of the falseness of your holy book, while completely ignoring the fact so many denominations of "Christlikeians" do not agree with each other on the interpretations.
A rape ot two, a murder or two, a threat or three.... all the same to the religiously impaired apparently.
and the dish ran away with the spoon!
Who is Freddy?
I abhor violence. You may be out of your culture here.
I assume you mean the crazy ghost-like guy who chops people up with a chainsaw?
I caught a couple of promos I think. We have cable and satellite here and the only time I have seen it was by accident.
I don't watch nasty crap like this from Noddy land or Hollywood, not the sort of thing anyone in my circle could tell you much about really.Sorry about the late edit. glitch.
Kill People Who Don't Listen to Priests
Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the judge or of the priest who represents the LORD your God must be put to death. Such evil must be purged from Israel. (Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT)
Kill Witches
You should not let a sorceress live. (Exodus 22:17 NAB)
Kill Homosexuals
"If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives." (Leviticus 20:13 NAB)
Kill Fortunetellers
A man or a woman who acts as a medium or fortuneteller shall be put to death by stoning; they have no one but themselves to blame for their death. (Leviticus 20:27 NAB)
Death for Hitting Dad
Whoever strikes his father or mother shall be put to death. (Exodus 21:15 NAB)
Death for Cursing Parents
1) If one curses his father or mother, his lamp will go out at the coming of darkness. (Proverbs 20:20 NAB)
2) All who curse their father or mother must be put to death. They are guilty of a capital offense. (Leviticus 20:9 NLT)
Death for Adultery
If a man commits adultery with another man's wife, both the man and the woman must be put to death. (Leviticus 20:10 NLT)
Death for Fornication
A priest's daughter who loses her honor by committing fornication and thereby dishonors her father also, shall be burned to death. (Leviticus 21:9 NAB)
Death to Followers of Other Religions
Whoever sacrifices to any god, except the Lord alone, shall be doomed. (Exodus 22:19 NAB)
Kill Nonbelievers
They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman. (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)
Kill False Prophets
If a man still prophesies, his parents, father and mother, shall say to him, "You shall not live, because you have spoken a lie in the name of the Lord." When he prophesies, his parents, father and mother, shall thrust him through. (Zechariah 13:3 NAB)
Kill the Entire Town if One Person Worships Another God
Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods. In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully. If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it. Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God. That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt. Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction. Then the LORD will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you. He will have compassion on you and make you a great nation, just as he solemnly promised your ancestors. "The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him." (Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT)
Kill Women Who Are Not Virgins On Their Wedding Night
But if this charge is true (that she wasn't a virgin on her wedding night), and evidence of the girls virginity is not found, they shall bring the girl to the entrance of her fathers house and there her townsman shall stone her to death, because she committed a crime against Israel by her unchasteness in her father's house. Thus shall you purge the evil from your midst. (Deuteronomy 22:20-21 NAB)
Kill Followers of Other Religions.
1) If your own full brother, or your son or daughter, or your beloved wife, or you intimate friend, entices you secretly to serve other gods, whom you and your fathers have not known, gods of any other nations, near at hand or far away, from one end of the earth to the other: do not yield to him or listen to him, nor look with pity upon him, to spare or shield him, but kill him. Your hand shall be the first raised to slay him; the rest of the people shall join in with you. You shall stone him to death, because he sought to lead you astray from the Lord, your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, that place of slavery. And all Israel, hearing of this, shall fear and never do such evil as this in your midst. (Deuteronomy 13:7-12 NAB)
2) Suppose a man or woman among you, in one of your towns that the LORD your God is giving you, has done evil in the sight of the LORD your God and has violated the covenant by serving other gods or by worshiping the sun, the moon, or any of the forces of heaven, which I have strictly forbidden. When you hear about it, investigate the matter thoroughly. If it is true that this detestable thing has been done in Israel, then that man or woman must be taken to the gates of the town and stoned to death. (Deuteronomy 17:2-5 NLT)
Death for Blasphemy
One day a man who had an Israelite mother and an Egyptian father got into a fight with one of the Israelite men. During the fight, this son of an Israelite woman blasphemed the LORD's name. So the man was brought to Moses for judgment. His mother's name was Shelomith. She was the daughter of Dibri of the tribe of Dan. They put the man in custody until the LORD's will in the matter should become clear. Then the LORD said to Moses, "Take the blasphemer outside the camp, and tell all those who heard him to lay their hands on his head. Then let the entire community stone him to death. Say to the people of Israel: Those who blaspheme God will suffer the consequences of their guilt and be punished. Anyone who blasphemes the LORD's name must be stoned to death by the whole community of Israel. Any Israelite or foreigner among you who blasphemes the LORD's name will surely die. (Leviticus 24:10-16 NLT)
Kill False Prophets
1) Suppose there are prophets among you, or those who have dreams about the future, and they promise you signs or miracles, and the predicted signs or miracles take place. If the prophets then say, 'Come, let us worship the gods of foreign nations,' do not listen to them. The LORD your God is testing you to see if you love him with all your heart and soul. Serve only the LORD your God and fear him alone. Obey his commands, listen to his voice, and cling to him. The false prophets or dreamers who try to lead you astray must be put to death, for they encourage rebellion against the LORD your God, who brought you out of slavery in the land of Egypt. Since they try to keep you from following the LORD your God, you must execute them to remove the evil from among you. (Deuteronomy 13:1-5 NLT)
2) But any prophet who claims to give a message from another god or who falsely claims to speak for me must die.' You may wonder, 'How will we know whether the prophecy is from the LORD or not?' If the prophet predicts something in the LORD's name and it does not happen, the LORD did not give the message. That prophet has spoken on his own and need not be feared. (Deuteronomy 18:20-22 NLT)
Infidels and Gays Should Die
So God let them go ahead and do whatever shameful things their hearts desired. As a result, they did vile and degrading things with each other's bodies. Instead of believing what they knew was the truth about God, they deliberately chose to believe lies. So they worshiped the things God made but not the Creator himself, who is to be praised forever. Amen. That is why God abandoned them to their shameful desires. Even the women turned against the natural way to have sex and instead indulged in sex with each other. And the men, instead of having normal sexual relationships with women, burned with lust for each other. Men did shameful things with other men and, as a result, suffered within themselves the penalty they so richly deserved. When they refused to acknowledge God, he abandoned them to their evil minds and let them do things that should never be done. Their lives became full of every kind of wickedness, sin, greed, hate, envy, murder, fighting, deception, malicious behavior, and gossip. They are backstabbers, haters of God, insolent, proud, and boastful. They are forever inventing new ways of sinning and are disobedient to their parents. They refuse to understand, break their promises, and are heartless and unforgiving. They are fully aware of God's death penalty for those who do these things, yet they go right ahead and do them anyway. And, worse yet, they encourage others to do them, too. (Romans 1:24-32 NLT)
Kill Anyone who Approaches the Tabernacle
For the LORD had said to Moses, 'Exempt the tribe of Levi from the census; do not include them when you count the rest of the Israelites. You must put the Levites in charge of the Tabernacle of the Covenant, along with its furnishings and equipment. They must carry the Tabernacle and its equipment as you travel, and they must care for it and camp around it. Whenever the Tabernacle is moved, the Levites will take it down and set it up again. Anyone else who goes too near the Tabernacle will be executed.' (Numbers 1:48-51 NLT)
Kill People for Working on the Sabbath
The LORD then gave these further instructions to Moses: 'Tell the people of Israel to keep my Sabbath day, for the Sabbath is a sign of the covenant between me and you forever. It helps you to remember that I am the LORD, who makes you holy. Yes, keep the Sabbath day, for it is holy. Anyone who desecrates it must die; anyone who works on that day will be cut off from the community. Work six days only, but the seventh day must be a day of total rest. I repeat: Because the LORD considers it a holy day, anyone who works on the Sabbath must be put to death.' (Exodus 31:12-15 NLT)
All good harmless fun!If you don't like the lies in the bible don't read them!
Yes I have seen dozens of religiously impaired people lie about the lies, nothing new.
What you think of me is of no interest at all, and your personal attacks are as gutless and meaningless as ever!what i don't like are your lies.
I have also seen hundreds of atheist impaired people nothing new.
I'm not attacking you. I'm just telling you truth. I can think of nothing else to say to you. You have broadcast this same message countless number of times, so many in fact it should by now be considered spam. You have been refuted and proven to be wrong and still you ramble on. Your credibility is zero and that's being generous. Since all you post is hate and negativity the mods should throw you out for being useless, creating chaos, and wasting space on their server. Again not an attack, just honesty of the which you are not champion.
If i were you i'd stick to what you know and keep out of what you know nothing about.
I see that dignity is as meaningless as ever also
Working at the 280 foot level of a power station as a rigger in my youth, a religious fanatic went crazy about all the swearing he heard on the site.
I got fed up with him and told him he was on a construction site fer gawds sake!
He then resorted to flogging his belief in god, and how he had no fear because god was protecting him.
So naturally I picked him up by his jacket and held him over the side and asked him if he really had the faith in god he was driving us nuts with.
He crapped himself. Never heard a religious word from him after that.- I would like to test a few on here for "real" faith!
Unfortunately it is the same here. It was not the church leaders who did any of the helping, they just are.
I had to make the choice to ignore that and stay with the mere workers like myself who actually did something useful.
One triumphant day one of the church leaders an Archbishop who had hidden the truth about some of the churches sexual offenders for twenty years or more visited and got a lot more than he bargained for.
When he came in earshot, several of the senior boys whispered in unison "Paedophile!" We all heard it.
Small justice I know.amusing stories if true. i have no doubt you stretched them for impact sake.
Church leaders, lead the church, duh. and they are not supposed to leave the guidance of church matters to help.
Acts 6:2 Then the twelve called the multitude of the disciples unto them, and said, It is not reason that we should leave the word of God, and serve tables.
The same in any business, the top dog leads, the others do the work...
AS to the people hanging 20yr old mistakes over their pastors heads when God has forgiven them shows that a cult you were in and a cult it was. Wishy washy at best and i'm bettin an all round sucky church. Catholic perhaps
I recall people who had questions about the bible. They wanted to know about the flood, adam and eve, why mankind was so important to God. And when their questions were answered. They took the next step and were saved.
After that ya couldn't shut them up about God.
Never heard an anti-religious word from them after thatBeen there, done that.
Ever hear an anti religious word from me or most of the other non myth-ers here who have also been through the mythical majikal ride?
Apparently your particular version of a version of the bible is almost unique.
It must be so wonderful to be you with all that learnin about a myth.Two short years of study. That's true.
And over 30 years of being surrounded by religionists who neither read nor understand anything other than religion.
It's a bit like, I read your book which tells you you can't read my book.
You know, the old circular thinking thing breaks out then.
The story is true.
Wrong on the second account as well. I could name names.Every time you are proven wrong and you deny it - a lie or you ignore it - a lie
When you don't verify your material - a lie
When you copy bible out of proper context - a lie
When you say people should listen to you because you studied the bible for 30 yrs - a lie
When you post misinformation on purpose - a lie.
When you put blame on other people for your mistakes - a lie.
When you put on false airs to look important - a lie
When a post has been proven to be wrong and you post it again - a lie.
You lied to hubpages when you joined the forums - a place for debate and discussion but there is no discussion with you.
Seems like i care more than others do about you.until now.
No need to try and disguise from hubpages that you are flat out calling me a liar many times over. I will let your post stand on it's own merit.
I won't have you banned, others may, but I feel you are better at destroying your own credibility left to your own devises here.Now that's funny.
When you get an ear to live in a world of truth.... try not to be too alarmed
no disguise.
I've not met a worse person that i can remember.
congrats!Well thank you! I consider that an honour!
All my work done for me. That's how I like it!
Are you gonna drag up all my old posts and continue to make my case in your replies? I'm good with that.
Do you ever get anyone else to read the stuff you write back to you?
There is a mile of good could come out of that.such denial
shallow
false
pitiful
good management cool guy
That's what I thought you said.
Hi Mr Sweet Earnest!
You must have the wrong Ernest.
I'm shallow false and pitiful remember?
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