Is masturbation a sin?

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   sandra rinckposted 14 years ago

   Just curious. I can't recall masturbation ever coming up in the Bible. 
   
   I have heard fornication, abominations, homosexuality, sexually immoral etc... but what is that?
   
   Now, I aint looking for a fight about homosexuality because frankly I don't care if someone is gay or not. 
   
   I figure being sexually immoral is to be a pedophile, rapist, and well I seen some things that I wish I had never seen before and for why someone would show me such things as a joke, well... it's not funny.  MY EYES MY EYES! LOL
   
   Anyways, I was talking to my brother about masturbation and religion.  Don't really know how it came up cause we were drinking but anyways, I said I think it is okay.
   
   I mean, we're human and well we got urges and feelings and stuff and I think that when a person tries to repress those natural feelings, after a while (which is my shallow understanding I suppose) but after a while if all that energy is stored up and it doesn't get released then you end up with pedophiles, rapist, sexual abominations, and just aggravated men and women who will for the sole purpose of "naturally" relieving their sexual tensions, get involved in relationships that are based on sex.  And let's be real, for the most part there is always one of the two who "thought" the relationship was based on love, when that sort of lovin' makes you feel good but not the person her/himself. 
   
   And while I personally feel that the biblical description of homosexuality isn't in itself a sin to be in love with another of the same gender but because some part aren't supposed go in other parts.  I mean you don't get babies from stuffing a crapper. (sorry if that offends anyone this is just based on "common sense")
   
   Also I figure abominations are like (God help clear my mind!) woman putting octopuses in their vagina and things like boinking chickens and horses and all that stuff that I think is absolutely disgusting and I am not ashamed in anyway to say that that kind of sexual stuff is really friggin disgusting and what I call an abomination.
   
   So I figure God gave you two hands, a dingaling or cookie... so it is either repress it until you become agro and end up doing something you might regret that will have an effect on someone other than yourself, or get it over with and get back to thinking straight.
   
   So is masturbation a sin, or is not masturbating a gateway to immoral behavior?

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      usmanali81posted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Masturbation = Health Hazards
      
      There are a number of confirmed health hazards that could arise as a result of masturbation. From them: the dispersion of the mind, as it will attempt to recall sexual interactions prior to masturbating, and this leads in the long-term a weakening of the memory. Also, (for the male), the hand is relatively rougher than the vagina, masturbating leads, in the long term, to a weakening of the sensitivity of the male penis. This is a disease widespread amongst Westerners – may Allah protect us from it – where men leave their women, as he is unable to ejaculate during sex with her, and is sufficed with ejaculating by his hand (masturbating), with the aid of pornography. As for the woman, then it leads to an enlargement of the external sexual organs (clitoris and outer labia), and thinness of the vagina, which results in a lack of sexual enjoyment when penetrated by her husband. This is why oral sex is very common amongst Westerners. Likewise, the ease of masturbating compared to sex (as it doesn’t require another person), encourages continuation of doing it, until one becomes addicted. It results in a sense of lowness and sinning. It is also against morals and a scar on manliness
      
      
      Marriage: The Solution To Get Rid of Masturbation:
      as-Sunnah an-Nabawiyyah: They used as evidence, the hadeeth collected by al-Bukhaari [5/1950] and Muslim [2/1018] in their Saheehay from ‘Abdullah bin Mas’ood, radiallahu ‘anh, who said: “We were with some youth not finding anything, so the Messenger of Allah, sallallahu ‘alayhi wa salam said: ‘O assembly of youth. Whoever from you is able to get married, then let him do so, for it lowers the gaze and protects the privates. And whoever is unable, then it is (on him) to fast, for it is a protection (from committing the haraam).’”
      
      So, masturbation is a sin.
      
      Qur'an Ch 24-Light, V 33
      
      “And let those who find not the financial means for marriage keep themselves chaste, until Allah enriches them of His Bounty” [24:33].

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         earnestshubposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Sin, sin, sin, I have never seen anyone so hellbent on fixing everyone and every human except himself.

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   Mishaposted 14 years ago

   It is the greatest sin Your Majesty, and I am the greatest sinner
   
   As for "staffing a crapper" - it is the best contraception to date

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      sandra rinckposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      LOL ouch!

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   Joelle Burnetteposted 14 years ago

   Masturbating...most definitely NOT a sin. I'd go crazy if I couldn't have that kind of guiltless freedom. It would lead to bad things...the frustration would likely result in yelling at my kids more. So thank heavens for the pulsating shower head. I truly feel sorry for anyone who can't enjoy a little self-stimulation now and again.
   There are too many genuinely bad/evil things that happen in this world or ours. A little masturbation isn't one of them.

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      Ron Montgomeryposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Not by any reasonable definition, however I'm sure we'll be hearing from the bible thumpers soon.  I seem to recall a verse that referred to the "spilling of seed on the ground" (I guess they didn't have kleenex back then) as a biblical justification for condemning it.  There is an outrageously funny bit about this in the Monty Python movie,"The Meaning of Life"  The lyrics were something like:
      
      Every sperm is sacred
      Every sperm is Great
      If a sperm is wasted,
      God gets quite irate!

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         sandra rinckposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         LOL- I think maybe it is a sin to not clean up after yourself.  The bible warns about uncleanliness.

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   marinealways24posted 14 years ago

   It is only a sin when you do not use a happy sock.

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   Capable Womanposted 14 years ago

   What about masturbating WHILE thinking homosexual thoughts...is that a sin?
   
   Oh, wait...I don't care.

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      Ron Montgomeryposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Does your cat watch you?

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         Capable Womanposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         You know, I've been meaning to tell you this...that actually is not my cat. I just found that picture on the web with the "Sup" and I thought it was funny. But now I am really going to post a picture of my cat, because she is beautiful and awesome, and, though none of you really deserves to see her, I will let you anyways.

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            Ron Montgomeryposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            One of our cats (we have 5) looks very similar to that one, and strikes that same pose nightly in front of the fireplace.

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   Ron Montgomeryposted 14 years ago

   http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0S00Mqogy1KS … 0164141589 here's the video

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   Capable Womanposted 14 years ago

   So, as you see...my real cat is somewhat evil and menacing. All admirable qualities in a cat, if you ask me. And yes, she watches me do EVERYTHING, Ron.

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      Ron Montgomeryposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      ***WARNING ADULT, NON BIBLE SANCTIFIED CONTENT***
      
      
      
      One evening while going through our routine of sexual activities banned in the state of Georgia, my wife started laughing hysterically.  I wondered how I could possibly be tickling her, but figured she would steer me by my ears if an adjustment was necessary.  The mood was definitely broken, so I came up for air and asked her what was so damn funny.  Apparently one of our cats was watching me very intently and cocking his head sideways in a quizical manner.  She tried to stifle her laughter for as long as possible, but the cat's expressions were too much for her.

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         Capable Womanposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         No fooling? I am in GA too! They overturned the sodomy laws, you know. So, if your cat was thinking of ratting you guys out, you're probably okay.
         
         Yeah, I hate it when they do that critiquing stare thing.

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            Ron Montgomeryposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            We're not in Georgia, it's just known as a state where anything outside of missionary position is outlawed; or so goes the rumor.
            
            We are from Indiana where it is illegal to attend church without bringing your rifle in case of Indian attack.

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               Capable Womanposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               Oh, I see...well at least that law makes sense!

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                  lxxyposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                  And dollars, too, for the local gunshop.

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                     n mhathung lothaposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                     well.... only if you don't know the limitation....

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                        earnestshubposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                        I work on communications not limitations with little ones.

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         Laughing Momposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Ummm....I would say the answer to the original question would be a "no".  But I also believe you should interpret what the Bible has to say for yourself instead of relying on what other's believe.  So don't quote me as the "God's honest truth".
         
         And Ron--even through Maddie's posts about mutilation, I'm still laughing my butt off at your experience here!!!!  Are you sure your last name isn't really "White"?  (You know the comedian--it's NOT a racial thing!!)

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            Ron Montgomeryposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            What is his line? You can't fix stupid.

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   lxxyposted 14 years ago

   Well, Monty Python had a song on this...
   
   ....personally, I don't see the harm. I mean..practice makes for great stamina, right? ;D Ladies?

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      Rochelle Frankposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Well, I don't really know, but if orgasmic contractions exercise certain muscles, it may be useful in preventing urinary leakage which sometimes happens-- I have heard -- to older women.
      Moderate exercise of everything from brain to toenails is healthful.

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         sandra rinckposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         like keigle (sp?) exercise right?

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         Colebabieposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         That is true. The kegel muscle exercises can strengthen the pelvic floor muscles that hold up the bladder. Specifically the pubococcygeus and oliococcygeus muscles I have an anatomy test tomorrow, can ya tell?

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            earnestshubposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            Good luck with the test, otherwise this is almost too much information! Masturbation just cannot be bad, if remedial!

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            Mishaposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            I won't mind if you provide a live demonstration of these muscles

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               sandra rinckposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               Your so dirty Misha! LOL

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                  Mishaposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                  Sure I am - and never tried to conceal it

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   Bard of Elyposted 14 years ago

   I'm no Bible thumper but I know the book well and yes it is in there with regard to Onan spilling his seed that this so displeased the Lord that he killed Onan.
   
   Some say it was not masturbation though that displeased God but because Onan would not get his brother's widow pregnant.
   
   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Onan
   
   I know Jehovah's Witnesses say it is a sin though.

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    waynetposted 14 years ago

    Who cares! I have gone blind anyway..sin, sin, sin away!!

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       Mishaposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Care to post a pic of your palms?

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    lxxyposted 14 years ago

    Sin...sin is doing something with evil intentions.
    
    Masturbating would only be evil if you were trying to scare someone..or something.

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    Eaglekiwiposted 14 years ago

    ewwwww....
    just dont do it on your parents bed like George did

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    Maddie Ruudposted 14 years ago

    Random fact from a book I'm reading:
    
    The last documented surgical clitorectomy (removal of the clitoris) performed in the United States was done in 1948.  On a 5 year old girl.  For touching herself.
    
    
    
    
    Sorry to kill the mood.

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       Colebabieposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Clitoridectomy? I just grabbed my crotch in horror. And she is in her sixties now and never got to experience the wonders of the clitoris. How sad

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          Maddie Ruudposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          Right?  I was just quoting this to my sister today and we wondered if anyone's tried to contact her for an interview.  Her life would make an amazing documentary.  Maybe raise money to stop genital mutilation.

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          Jewelsposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          That is horrific. Grrrrrrr. Who did that? I want their balls.

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             earnestshubposted 14 years agoin reply to this

             What sort of lunacy is that? That is the most horrible thing I can think of!

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                Colebabieposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                Maddie I'm guessing it was the parent's decision? FGM still occurs in other cultures, both legally and illegally. It is a violation of human rights and is disgusting. But for cultures that have practiced it for decades, it is difficult to argue with.
                
                Maddie, May I ask what book you are reading?

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                   Maddie Ruudposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                   It was prescribed by a doctor.
                   
                   
                   
                   Absolutely.  It's terrible.  I think the Vagina Monologues has done amazing things for bringing up this issue and raising funds to combat it.  I was in a local production of this past February.
                   
                   
                   
                   The new edition of a book written in the 70's, coauthored by the same woman who wrote "Nickel and Dimed."  It's called "For Her Own Good."

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    Colebabieposted 14 years ago

    Yeah like a tv documentary on discovery health? Good idea. It would be interesting. I'm sure she got pleasure out of having sex, just not the same. And can you miss something you never remember having? Probably.

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       sandra rinckposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Wonder when ky was invented?

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          Colebabieposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          1904 even before trojan

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             sandra rinckposted 14 years agoin reply to this

             LOL for some reason I knew you would know.   What about lambskin?

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                Mishaposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                And what about lambskin? I feel sort of uneducated

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                   sandra rinckposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                   lambskin condoms.  I think they used lambskin before latex. ... at least I think.

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                Colebabieposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                I think they think that China tried that first in like the early 1800s, but in the US I'm gonna guess late 1800s? I don't really know that one.

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    Colebabieposted 14 years ago

    Sounds interesting Maddie, let me know how it is. In my sociology class we learned about FGM a little. It is so crazy what they do to young girls.

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    Mishaposted 14 years ago

    gotcha! thanks

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    Colebabieposted 14 years ago

    I don't think I would like lamb intestines in my vagina... but that's just me

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       sandra rinckposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       me neither. ewww had gross thought... something about sausage. lol

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    Colebabieposted 14 years ago

    Misha, its really hard to see the actual contraction, its more of a feeling. Sorry
    
    I do mine at red lights
    
    Ok too much information... back to "Is masturbation a sin?"
    
    And in my opinion no touchy makes johnny an angry boy. Gotta let out the feelings somewhere. Nothing safer than on yourself.

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       Mishaposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       I guess I did not mean to see - I always prefer to feel

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          Colebabieposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          Keep dreamin' Hugh Hefner. I'm 21
          (I apologize as I know this belongs in the insult forum)

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             Mishaposted 14 years agoin reply to this

             LOL no need to apologize Actually my wife is 17 years younger than me, so this is not something foreign to me, at least to some extent

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       Ron Montgomeryposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       You masterbate at red lights?

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          Colebabieposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          Umm, Kegel exercises. That isn't masturbation.

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             Ron Montgomeryposted 14 years agoin reply to this

             Sure, and vibrators are for relaxing those tired achey shoulders

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                Colebabieposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                Kegel exercises are like flex and relaxing your biceps, it doesn't provide any pleasure. It is flexing and releasing a set of muscles.
                If not, I would have been in several accidents by now.

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          Maddie Ruudposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          Does Kegels, I believe she was saying.

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             Ron Montgomeryposted 14 years agoin reply to this

             I know.  But the other scenario would have extended the life of this thread.

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    fierycjposted 14 years ago

    Are you guys frigging kidding me?

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       Colebabieposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       What?

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       Ron Montgomeryposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Watch your language potty mouth.

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       Mishaposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Yes, we are

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    Tom Cornettposted 14 years ago

    You'll shoot your eye out kid!

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    Colebabieposted 14 years ago

    How do you guys not know what kegels are? Don't your wives do them? If not, they should.  I feel a hub coming on...

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       Ron Montgomeryposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       We do know, but you're doing the same damn thing my wife does; taking a fun conversation and ruining it with clinical talk.  EVERYONE knows what kegels are.

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          Colebabieposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          Didn't think I was getting too serious. Sorry if I missed your sarcasm. I was answering questions that people asked, without denying a bit of humor. I'll keep it to myself from now on if you prefer.

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             Ron Montgomeryposted 14 years agoin reply to this

             Of course not.  I'd hate to be seen as anti health education.

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    AEvansposted 14 years ago

    There isn't anything that I have read in the Bible that indicates masturbation is a sin. It discusses lusting, however it does evade masturbation.

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    Mishaposted 14 years ago

    No, no! Keeping well-trained kegels for yourself is a greater sin!

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    Colebabieposted 14 years ago

    Well I've never been one to care about sinning, but ok
    
    On that note, off to bed. My exam is in 9 hours! Nighty night.
    
    Happy Kegels!

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       Ron Montgomeryposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Good night Colebabie.  Pleasant dreams.

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    Mishaposted 14 years ago

    nite-nite

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    \Brenda Scullyposted 14 years ago

    Is it just me or does this thread make you feel a bit sick...

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    Jewelsposted 14 years ago

    I've never known masturbation to make anyone sick.

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    \Brenda Scullyposted 14 years ago

    I cant believe people talk so openly about it....... it's my religious upbringing isn't it ?????

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       earnestshubposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Yes you may be right, a religious upbringing could be the cause but it is courageous of you to go there.

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    \Brenda Scullyposted 14 years ago

    thanks a lot, sometimes I feel like I am such the odd one out..

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       earnestshubposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       I hope so! We should all seek to be individuals, that's what makes us unique in every way.

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    \Brenda Scullyposted 14 years ago

    I like you!!!!!!!

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       earnestshubposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Thanks Brenda! I like you too. I think that we should all seek out who we are, it is painful, and I always know that as I try to grow every bit of growth hurts, so I have learnt to use the pain to find my way. It may seem difficult, but it makes life easier and more loving in the long run.These days I sit back and adore my grandchildren and learn from them.

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    \Brenda Scullyposted 14 years ago

    children are the best educators, I also have 7 grandchildren, and every day I learn from them, they are brilliant.....

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       earnestshubposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Beautiful aren't they? I have five ranging down to twin 3 yo girls who eat grandpas for lunch!

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    Béla Mongyiposted 14 years ago

    Even typing the word m***ation IS a sin.

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    sneakorocksolidposted 14 years ago

    Ok, as I understand it if you're under 21 its ok as long as you lock the door. I'm sure parents and siblings don't wanna know. As a parent, if your young one is stressing because they can't figure it out, you may have to talk about it if odd things keep disappearing from the pantry. Over 21 but under 40 its not a sin as long as you do it on the even days and alone. If you're married and it becomes necessary then its only a sin for your partner for insensitive, uncaring, selfish and just plain bad behavior. So, if you are forced by your mate to indulge yourself then do it where they can hear you but don't let them watch! If you're over 40 but under 60 its only a sin if you let other people know you're doing it and brag about it. If you're over 60 and and you're still inclined to diddle its not a sin and I bow to your greatness. Peace.

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       sandra rinckposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       LOL... what exactly could be missing from the pantry?

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    Paragliderposted 14 years ago

    Or maybe there's no such thing as sin?

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       sandra rinckposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       or maybe sin is just another word for, "I don't like how I felt about it after the fact." lol

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    RKHenryposted 14 years ago

    Well if spanking the monkey is a sin- then great!  Didn't think I'd be going to heaven anyways.
    
    Stroke on!

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       sandra rinckposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       That's a pretty bangin' statement.

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          RKHenryposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          Hell ya!  I like it.  I like even more when my girl does it for me.  I think more people should masturbate.  They'd probably see life completely differently.  Maybe not so stressful.

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             sandra rinckposted 14 years agoin reply to this

             It's not masturbation when someone else does it for you, Gosh! LOL
             That's called "foolin' around".

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    Research Analystposted 14 years ago

    Yes!

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    jmsxyzposted 14 years ago

    If you have to ask someone for an opinion then I believe deep down you already know what the answer is. if you were not convicted by masturbation then you wouldn't be inquiring from someone else if it's o.k.

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       sandra rinckposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Is that some sort of Princess Bride dialog? LOL

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    jmsxyzposted 14 years ago

    You have eyes to see with but can't see, you have ears to hear with but you can't hear what the spirit is saying because you have closed your heart to truth. Someone once said; "What is truth?"
    When truth was staring him in the face. That's how the heart of man has grown---"If it feels good,do it"  After all--God understands, huh? God have mercy on this heartless and sinful nation.

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       sandra rinckposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       which nation is that exactly?

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          Ron Montgomeryposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          Probably Raider Nation

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             sandra rinckposted 14 years agoin reply to this

             I hate to be a butt but the Raiders SUCK!  Muhahahahahah *evil laugh*

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       Paper Moonposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       
       Actually only have one eye, that is why he is willy the one eyed wonder worm.  And he may be blind, but he knows where he is going.  And mine does not have ears, yours must be deformed.

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          Laughing Momposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          PM!!!!

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    Colebabieposted 14 years ago

    I can see, I can hear, and the truth is that I'm getting laid tonight. Yeah I said it.

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       sandra rinckposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       lucky!

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       earnestshubposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Good luck or good management do you think?

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          Colebabieposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          What do ya mean earnest?

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             earnestshubposted 14 years agoin reply to this

             I meant, do you know he will be up to it after a hard day, or have you prepared him with a day off, bribed him with flowers etc.

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                KCC Big Countryposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                You can bribe a MAN with flowers?  *scratches head*

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                   Ron Montgomeryposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                   Sure, just place tulips on his organ
                   
                   bah dah bop

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                Colebabieposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                Gotcha, yeah I thought that was what you meant. He had to work a long day yesterday. We only get to see each other 3 days a week (give or take a day). So we usually make the most of that time Tomorrow night is date night! That's my favorite day of the week

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                   earnestshubposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                   Good! I hope you have a wonderful date!

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       KCC Big Countryposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Wish I was.....there I said it.

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          Ron Montgomeryposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          You got one purty monkey there KCC.

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    HealthCare Basicsposted 14 years ago

    Masturbation a sin?.... (think, think, think)
    
    I'm left handed, so if I want a good time, I use the left. If I need a stranger, than it is the right......
    
    I just can't get into the sheperd thing a few thousand years ago.....

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       Ron Montgomeryposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       DO NOT RIDICULE SHEPERDS

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    HealthCare Basicsposted 14 years ago

    Oppps! Sorry Ron.......

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    earnestshubposted 14 years ago

    It could be sinful to masturbate without a joint.

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       Ron Montgomeryposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       That could be a whole other forum!

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          Laughing Momposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          Isn't it already?

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             Ron Montgomeryposted 14 years agoin reply to this

             Why yes; yes it is, and a damn fine one at that.

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    C.S.Alexisposted 14 years ago

    if it is then the entire population is doomed!

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    KCC Big Countryposted 14 years ago

    LOL......is that a banjo I hear in the distance? No, wait, it's two!  LOL

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       Ron Montgomeryposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Playing the banjo one handed is very difficult.

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          KCC Big Countryposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          Puts a whole new meaning on "pickin' and grinnin'", don't it?

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             Laughing Momposted 14 years agoin reply to this

             I think I'm going to have to hit the hubby's beer stash to keep following this thread.

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                Ron Montgomeryposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                You're at least a 12 pack behind.

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                   Laughing Momposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                   I'm caught up.  Probably ahead.

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             Ron Montgomeryposted 14 years agoin reply to this

             No, I refrain from grinning.  It is a religious experience for me. 
             
             Lubrications 3:13  And ye shall jerk thine gherkin with great joy.  And verily I say unto you, do not spray the cat.

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                Laughing Momposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                The fact that the cat is anywhere around is proof that I'm a 12 pack behind.

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                   Paper Moonposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                   @ both of you- ROFLMAO

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                      happymomiposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                      Yes it is

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    cindyvineposted 14 years ago

    My granny used to say that men who masturbate get hair growing on the palms of their hands.

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    Paper Moonposted 14 years ago

    What about monkeys that masturbate?  Do they get hairy palms?  and if you catch them masturbating, do you spank the monkey?

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    fortunerepposted 14 years ago

    What part of Indiana are you from Ron?
    dori

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       Ron Montgomeryposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       indianapolis

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          Laughing Momposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          I didn't know they had banjos in your part of the country.  I was thinking more....souped up engines.

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             Ron Montgomeryposted 14 years agoin reply to this

             They don't that's why I left

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    Ron Montgomeryposted 14 years ago

    I'm sleepy all of a sudden - going to bed.

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    kmackey32posted 14 years ago

    If it were a sin i am in VERY big trouble. lmao

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    JonTutorposted 14 years ago

    Dude Usman you got to chill out. Are you married? And if you are single... dating isn't allowed in your culture..... then what do you do? Holy Cow I haven't read such BS before. Can't you stop quoting some centuries old book... Dude, wake up and think for yourself in present times.

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