Is There Sin Commited When Females Mate?

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   word55posted 10 years ago

   How is there fornication between females? I'm heterosexual but just curious because of all the publicity about same sex relationships. It seems like males definitely fornicate and commit sin.

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      Beth37posted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Huh?

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         FatFreddysCatposted 10 years agoin reply to this

         What she said.

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            Thief12posted 10 years agoin reply to this

            It seems to me he's under the impression that women can't fornicate since there can't be no natural penetration.

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               Beth37posted 10 years agoin reply to this

               Who likes sports?

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                  NateB11posted 10 years agoin reply to this

                  Never been into sports. Except boxing. I like Pacquiao.

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                     Beth37posted 10 years agoin reply to this

                     We should talk about that. The OP might have this out of his system in a few minutes.

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                        NateB11posted 10 years agoin reply to this

                        lol

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      MelissaBarrettposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      I don't think two females can mate, technically.
      
      But yes, they can fornicate. It's quite fun actually.

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         FatFreddysCatposted 10 years agoin reply to this

         It's the best part of every porno movie, too.
         
         ....Ummm, I mean, that's what I've HEARD, anyway. I would not actually *know* about such things myself, of course.
         
         *cough cough*

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            MelissaBarrettposted 10 years agoin reply to this

            It's better than the hairy guy in the knee-high tube socks with the one stripe around the top... yes.
            
            Bowchickawowwow

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               MysticMoonlightposted 10 years agoin reply to this

               Cannot stop laughing....

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      laeixxposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      If you believe in the concept of "sin", then yes it is. Fornication has to do with any sexual contact between two people who are't married; it also includes cheating and infidelity, along with all gay couples who aren't married. (As well as two women who aren't married to each other.)
      
      However, if two gay people ARE married (even two men) and they have sexual contact, then technically it's not fornication any longer. Therefore, not a sin!
      
      (I personally don't believe in the concept of sin. There's right and wrong [meaning: do unto others] but "sin" is such a vague term that it almost makes you feel ignorant to even believe in it anymore.)

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         Rad Manposted 10 years agoin reply to this

         I'd have to agree with you on that. The concept of sin is rather embarrassing. Little black marks on our souls which are real to begin with. The only reason why we all don't think the concept is ridiculous is because we grew up with it. I didn't grow up understanding Mormonism or Scientology and immediately upon hearing their practices thought they most all be crazy. Secret handshakes to get into heaven and such.

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   Stevennix2001posted 10 years ago

   (grabs a chair along with a bottle of soda and some popcorn)  Oh boy...I guess we got another controversial topic being brought up on hubpages.  This should be good for a barrel of laughs.  (starts eating popcorn, as I wait for the show to start.  )

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      Beth37posted 10 years agoin reply to this

      lol

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      NateB11posted 10 years agoin reply to this

      lol.

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   Will Apseposted 10 years ago

   Tolerating Eric has really opened the floodgates.

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      Beth37posted 10 years agoin reply to this

      lol

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      NateB11posted 10 years agoin reply to this

      lol. Sorry, Beth. I really do also think it's funny.

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   Beth37posted 10 years ago

   Is this what happens when men are left alone with their computers too long?

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      Will Apseposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Might be space worms.

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         Beth37posted 10 years agoin reply to this

         Is that what you get when you eat bad sushi in space?

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         spartucusjonesposted 10 years agoin reply to this

         It might of been the drunken stupor.
         
         
         
         

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            Beth37posted 10 years agoin reply to this

            I wondered what happened to Rush Limbaugh.

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               spartucusjonesposted 10 years agoin reply to this

               That is Mayor of Toronto, Rob Ford, but there is a definite resemblance.

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                  Beth37posted 10 years agoin reply to this

                  I can't throw stones. Id be drunk every day if it weren't a sin. (Just staying on topic.)

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      spartucusjonesposted 10 years agoin reply to this

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         Beth37posted 10 years agoin reply to this

         Maybe we should have to have staff approval before we're allowed to hit submit.
         
         (Sorry Sparticus, I captured you before you could escape.)

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            spartucusjonesposted 10 years agoin reply to this

            No worries, I am always glad to be captured by you, my queen. Plus I can always blame the drunken stupor.

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               Beth37posted 10 years agoin reply to this

               You always have to use the Q word. (sigh) I think ppl will forget about that if we don't remind them.
               How's your $5 poncho today?

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                  spartucusjonesposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                  I will never forget. The $5 poncho is doing quite well. With the current inflation rate it is up to $5.25.

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                     Beth37posted 10 years agoin reply to this

                     You invested wisely. I bought this stupid crown, but no one outside of HPs gets it. I can't wear it anywhere.

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                        spartucusjonesposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                        You should take a pic of you wearing it and post it here. Plus if you walk around wearing it everywhere you go, after awhile people will catch on.

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                           Beth37posted 10 years agoin reply to this

                           lol.. you're starting to sound a little like the OP.

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                              spartucusjonesposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                              Oh well, I will just blame it on the drunken stupor.

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                              bipolartistposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                              Gosh, I hate being left out of the inside jokes. Also, I love to eavesdrop. Is that a sin?

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                                 word55posted 10 years agoin reply to this

                                 Eavesdropping is not a sin as long as you don't commit a sin while doing it or as a result of doing it. Thank you. That seems like a serious question. Couldn't tell if you were joking or not.

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   Dawn Denmar1posted 10 years ago

   Is fornication a sin?

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      Beth37posted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Well, you seldom hear the word "fornicate" used outside of the Bible. The secular world has other words for it... and most of them are a sin. lol

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         Dawn Denmar1posted 10 years agoin reply to this

         "Fornication is generally consensual sexual intercourse between two people not married to each other.[1][2] For many people, the term carries an overtone of moral or religious disapproval, but the significance of sexual acts to which the term is applied varies between religions, societies and cultures. The definition is often disputed. In modern usage, the term is often replaced with a more judgment-neutral term like extramarital sex."
         lol ----Wikipedia definition above-------

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            Beth37posted 10 years agoin reply to this

            I feel that I'm going to have to kick it up a notch here. lol
            I was just kind of blathering... the OP seems to have disappeared so Im not sure if there's an actual debate at bay or just a hit and run kind of post.

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               fpherj48posted 10 years agoin reply to this

               Beth...."hit & run"....now THAT's a sin!  That's why they never call the next day.  Shame.

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                  Beth37posted 10 years agoin reply to this

                  lol

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      fpherj48posted 10 years agoin reply to this

      NO!  I think it's the term for when we figure multiplication problems by FOUR.  Math was my Bestest subject.

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   Cgenaeaposted 10 years ago

   The bible states that even looking can be sin. What is the mind thinking as it looks? That's important.  Because even if I look at Matthew Mc with lust and burning in my areas,  I sin. (Sorry Lord for all those times)
   He's married so I covet; he is not mine so I fornicate mindfully.
   Two women are not equipped for Godly sex.
   That's not to say that loving women are outside of the love of God. He deals with us individually.  His grace is sufficient.  He does not change.  Remember this: a woman caught in the very act was protected from a harsh stoning because of grace.  God himself protected her
   Disclaimer:
   God and Jesus are two who agree as one. Get it??? Two entities;  one mind.

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      EncephaloiDeadposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      I guess it doesn't matter one way or another if it's a sin to look, think or imbibe, Christians will do it anyways and then say, "Sorry", but then do it all over again.
      
      
      
      Unless one or the other is screaming, "Oh, my God!" during sex.

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      bipolartistposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Oh, like my husband and me...two entities, my mind. That makes much more sense now.

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         Cgenaeaposted 10 years agoin reply to this

         
         The bible instructs husband and wife to become one. Din say WHICH.

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   Michael Lafayetteposted 10 years ago

   I think the first thing we must do is define fornication:
   
   “The Greek word for ‘fornication’ (porneia) could include any sexual sin committed after the betrothal contract. …In Biblical usage, ‘fornication’ can mean any sexual congress outside monogamous marriage. It thus includes not only premarital sex, but also adultery, homosexual acts, incest, remarriage after un-Biblical divorce, and sexual acts with animals, all of which are explicitly forbidden in the law as given through Moses (Leviticus 20:10-21). Christ expanded the prohibition against adultery to include even sexual lusting (Matthew 5:28).” (Dr. Henry M. Morris)

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      MelissaBarrettposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Well then right there solves our problem.
      
      Gays should get married and fornicate no more!

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      jlparkposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Women are never mentioned specifically in the Leviticus verses re: sexual practices. For various reasons (some still evident in these modern times) such as the lower status of women in Biblical times etc.
      
      However, this lack of mention could mean two things: One, it's not a sin for women to have sexual relations with one another, or Two: Ignorance of sexual practices outside those of straight people ("I hath not done it, therefore it does not exist" mentality).
      
      To me - it isn't even these verses - Lev is overwritten by the NT anyway, but  there are SIX admonishments to homosexuals in the Bible...SIX! There are over 300 admonishments to heterosexuals! So mention or not - who cares??? What about what those dirty heteros are doing??? !!!!! Said with love of course!
      
      Lack of mention: No sin. Yay for the ladies!. Or no sin if within marriage - yay for the married lesbians! (like me!)

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   Cgenaeaposted 10 years ago

   Uh... nevermind...

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   Diane Woodsonposted 10 years ago

   Fornication is not the same as Mating, Women cannot Mate if they are like this, and it is a sin if woman to woman love or man to man love apparently occurs. Sin if man and woman do this before marriage too.

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      MelissaBarrettposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      If the women are married to each other, no sin. If the guys are married to each other no sin.
      
      This is brilliant. It was right in front of our face all the time! If you want gays to stop fornicating, open the doors of your church and marry them!
      
      Christians really have been encouraging sin all this time by blocking attempts at gay marriage.
      
      Bad Christians! Bad!

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    Cgenaeaposted 10 years ago

    Truth is paramount. If someone wants the truth, they will go to the place where it is written and see what it says for themselves. He knows the heartt

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       MelissaBarrettposted 10 years agoin reply to this

       The pocket near a labyrinth often gives a pink slip to the wobbly gypsy, or a clodhopper over a gonad bestows great honor upon the cup around a trombone. Indeed, the bride hosts a lunatic living with an onlooker. Sometimes an unruffled fetishist procrastinates, but the uxorious dissident always buys an expensive gift for an espadrille behind the boy! Now and then, the boy wisely throws a self-actualized shadow at a waif.

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          Cgenaeaposted 10 years agoin reply to this

          You have SO amused me... thanks...

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    Kathryn L Hillposted 10 years ago

    The definition of sin is ignorance. Is it ignorance for women to have sex with each other? Is it ignorance for males to have sex with females? Is it ignorance for males to have sex with males? Is it ignorance for humans to have sex with non-humans? Is sex itself, ignorance? Is the sex-urge the epitome of animal lust, lack of control, self orientation to the max? Is it so hard for men to step away from the eggs when they are not ready for offspring? Or when the microbes of Aides, Herpes, Gonorrhea, Syphilis, Herpes and Chlamydia could be present and transmitted? Is it so hard for women to wait for marriage to have sex? They are the ones who suffer the most. You would really think that wising-up would start with women.

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       MelissaBarrettposted 10 years agoin reply to this

       Actually, if the criteria for wisdom is avoiding unwanted pregnancies and sexually transmitted diseases, then lesbians are truly the wisest of all creatures.

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          Kathryn L Hillposted 10 years agoin reply to this

          Well, homosexuality is nature's method of birth control. But, can't females transmit microbes just as easily as males? That's why marriage for heterosexuals and homosexuals, alike, should be encouraged.

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             MelissaBarrettposted 10 years agoin reply to this

             The rate of STDs among lesbians is ridiculously low.
             
             So yes, they can... but it's much much less likely. It has to do with the mechanics.

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                Kathryn L Hillposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                I doubt it has to do with mechanics. I really do. It probably has to do with habits of cleanliness. 
                Way More Than I Want To Think About.

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                   MelissaBarrettposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                   Yes, Summer's Eve Vinegar and Water douche is the government's secret weapon against the spread of HIV.

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                      Kathryn L Hillposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                      - the government's secret weapon?  Are they giving it away for free?
                      Lucky lesbians. Say goodbye to the available women, guys…
                      (Just kidding.)

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                         MelissaBarrettposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                         Why, do you need some?

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    Cgenaeaposted 10 years ago

    ...just gets better and better...

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       Kathryn L Hillposted 10 years agoin reply to this

       A  O.K.

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          Cgenaeaposted 10 years agoin reply to this

          Well I sure don't "get" it. Couldja help me please?
          You being "one" or not has nothing to do with it. I don't hate or bash anyone.  I may get a little irritant behind the "fool" or the near-"fool". But you and I vibe fine. Right?

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          Kathryn L Hillposted 10 years agoin reply to this

          I did not appreciate Ms Barrett's question asking me if I needed some free douche from the government. Thats what I was referring to by saying 'I ain't " (lesbian.) I guess I just could have said "No."
          
          No, Ms. Barrett.
          
          - that's better.
          good nite,
          sleep tite,
          Miss C.

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             Cgenaeaposted 10 years agoin reply to this

             I feel kinda twilight zoney... lol
             Start again. Truth is ALWAYS what we are after. There is much truth in the way you present.  I was not accusing you of bashing (if that's what you think). We agree here too. You seem to have missed me.

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    Cgenaeaposted 10 years ago

    I guess I could have missed you somewhere. Sorry.

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    Cgenaeaposted 10 years ago

    Ha! Never. I believe homosexuality is offered to all in one way or another.  But interest was just NOT there for me. Never tried it; never cared to. I have been accused many times.  But never guilty.  Now men??? Ok, I'm writing a book about it... *hangs head in shame...
    I though the back and forth was a bit offensive too. Guess it comes with the terrorist I, I, I mean territory. 

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       Kathryn L Hillposted 10 years agoin reply to this

       Gotcha.
       Now, as far as the men… I know you tried!
       Don't hang yer head in shame. Better to have loved and lost, a few or more times, than never loving at all!

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          Cgenaeaposted 10 years agoin reply to this

          thanks... I really,  really tried.

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             Kathryn L Hillposted 10 years agoin reply to this

             ...youth is not wasted on the youth when they learn from their mistakes. I, at this point, could live a perfect life, if I could do it over again… well, at least I think so...

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                Cgenaeaposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                I'm grateful for the lessons (some learned over and over and over again) yes, we both could be much better next time. It's just not in the cards. bummer...

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    Dawn Denmar1posted 10 years ago

    I guess the OP has abandoned his quest for enlightenment. Maybe wanted actual details....
    
    This thread is interesting... and thinking about sin etc at this time of year is quite appropriate really.

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       Kathryn L Hillposted 10 years agoin reply to this

       I heard that the first day of Hanukkah and Thanksgiving land on the same day this year. First time since ancient times. Thanks Dawn, for your input.

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          Dawn Denmar1posted 10 years agoin reply to this

          

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             word55posted 10 years agoin reply to this

             Ok, I love people no matter who they are or what they do. I'm new here. I apologize for asking the question. It was a confusing question. Now, Someone please tell me,  How to delete the question and entire thread?

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    word55posted 10 years ago

    That is a good statement. After a person repents from the old life then they can live a perfect life. They can look back over their past life and see how living it their way was a mistake. Being reborn is an opportunity to live anew through faith in Christ.That is when they can really appreciate life and feel much better that their life hasn't been wasted. I'd like to see you do a hub on living such a life Kathryn L. Thank you

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    Zelkiiroposted 10 years ago

    But of course. In the eyes of Christians (and Muslims, too, while we're at it), being female by itself is a terrible sin, and such a sinful person having sexual urges is unthinkable.

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    word55posted 10 years ago

    I want to thank you for your replies and interacting in this forum. It is a sin committed if not married and doing any act of intimate relations between two people and even so if not actual but in the heart of the person desiring an act with a person not married to and vise versa.

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    FatFreddysCatposted 10 years ago

    That totally clears things up. Thanks.

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    Cgenaeaposted 10 years ago

    Now THAT'S the ONLY point.

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