Yikes! 50% Drop in Earnings.

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   vocalcoachposted 6 years ago

   Is it just me or has anyone else had a significant decrease in earnings this month?  Every hub is featured.  Traffic actually increased.  Any thoughts anyone?

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      Will Apseposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      My income has risen, just as my traffic has risen, this month.
      
      Is this a seasonal thing for your pages? Outdoor orientated pages seem to be doing very well for me at the moment. If you are focused on indoor stuff, ad values might have fallen.

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         vocalcoachposted 6 years agoin reply to this

         No, not seasonal at all.  My earnings have been consistent.  Thanks.

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            Will Apseposted 6 years agoin reply to this

            Your earnings are consistent.
            
            Your earnings have fallen by 50 percent this month.
            
            I am confused.

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      Marisa Wrightposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      If traffic increased but earnings fell, it has to be related to what advertisers are paying. Not much we can do about that, unfortunately.

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         vocalcoachposted 6 years agoin reply to this

         I thought about this.  Thanks Marisa.  You always give such helpful answers.

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      aerospacefanposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Mobile ads pay far less than desktop ads. I'm wondering if this could be part of the equation? Just thinking out loud.
      
      Also, some ads pay more than others. It's possible the ad type showing pays less.
      
      A 50% is a lot for sure.

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         vocalcoachposted 6 years agoin reply to this

         Yes, this has never happened before.  Just not sure whether it's on my end or HP.

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      promisemposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      You might want to compare May of 2017 with May of 2016 to see if the performance is similar.
      
      It might also just be an anomaly. If June is better, maybe it's just a one-time problem.

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         vocalcoachposted 6 years agoin reply to this

         I took a look at last years earnings as you suggested.  Yes,  did much better at this time last year.  Thanks a lot.

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      TIMETRAVELER2posted 6 years agoin reply to this

      When  I realized CPMs were dropping, I switched to  Adsense and have had very good results.  My views increased over 48,000 for may, as compared to last year.  In fact, this May was the second highest month for earnings I've ever had!
      
      Why not try switching to Adsense to see if that helps. You can always switch back if that doesn't work.

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         easylearningwebposted 6 years agoin reply to this

         Hey Timetraveler, can you explain what you mean about switching to Adsense? I have Adsense account linked to my blog as well as HubPages, but is there a setting you turned off possibly HubPages Ads vs using something different for Adsense? Something in our earnings settings?
         
         Thanks!

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            TIMETRAVELER2posted 6 years agoin reply to this

            When  you write for HP you can choose to be paid using the HP ad program in combination with Adsense or you can turn off the HP ad program and just use the Adsense.  The Adsense that HP uses pays more than one you have on a blog.
            
            When I saw that cpms had dropped a month or so back, I went into my earnings settings and turned off the HP payment program.  My results so far have been quite good, although there's no real way to compare because once you turn the HP program off, you no longer know what your CPMS might be for any given day.
            
            They pay differently, and I can't explain how Adsense pays, but I know it does not pay via page views.  It uses some sort of complex program that works well for some writers and not for others depending on, I guess, topic.
            
            Anyhow, you can switch at will, so it may be a good idea to give it a try for a week and see how things go.

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   FatFreddysCatposted 6 years ago

   Last month was the pits for me but there's definitely been improvement thus far in May.

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      Jean Bakulaposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      I did much better in May than in April too.

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         vocalcoachposted 6 years agoin reply to this

         Nice to know I'm not alone.  Thanks.

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      vocalcoachposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Happy to hear this.  Keep it up!

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   poppyrposted 6 years ago

   Same, in May my earnings increased by about 40%.

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      vocalcoachposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      I guess we'll never figure it out   Thanks.

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      Suzanne Dayposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      I agree, May was a super stellar month. Whatever HP is doing, is working for me. Might even write something new on here again one day

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         TIMETRAVELER2posted 6 years agoin reply to this

         Please do.  I have missed you!

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   iwrite100posted 6 years ago

   There are more sellers? or people are spending their money on vacation and not online items?  Just guessing

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      vocalcoachposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Could be.  I'm puzzled.  Thanks.

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         vocalcoachposted 6 years agoin reply to this

         Me too.    Thanks.

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      vocalcoachposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      These are both good guesses and thanks!

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   neenasatineposted 6 years ago

   Hi. Did you ask the staff about it? It may be about advertisers' rates if the traffic has always been consistent.

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   Stacie Lposted 6 years ago

   I had a good may also. I made some sales which adds up. I find my views and sales are cyclical.

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      aerospacefanposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Stacie,
      Are your hubs that are getting the traffic mostly on the niches?

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   faithinyouposted 6 years ago

   Me new in hubpages.com. Let's see How my journey would be

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   makingamarkposted 6 years ago

   I've just downloaded the money stats for May.
   
   Now while I'm not active on Hubpages in terms of updating etc or pushing hubs across to the new niche sites (not impressed with the one for my niche) income had been ticking along while I continue with the mammoth job of switching content or deleting it or waiting for HubPages to get their act together on art history!
   
   However recently the AdSense all but dried up. So much so that halfway through the month I switched out of the HubPages Ad Program and over to Google AdSense for all adverts.
   
   Having got the stats for both now - one half of the month HubPages and the other half Google AdSense the net result is
   * pitiful AdSense income for HubPages continues
   * HOWEVER the big bonus is I like the adverts on my hubs a lot more now. (That's because I've got a lot of topics blocked in AdSense - I don't care if they pay big bucks they're not appearing on my sites!)
   * PLUS I was minded to try putting Google AdSense on one of my other sites (the #2 art business info site which gets respectable traffic) and income is now taking off on that. I've got just one landscape image ad at the bottom of the page next to the navigation cues for more info (ie not in your face - but there in case it may be of interest i.e. not objectionable).

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      vocalcoachposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Thanks so much!

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   easylearningwebposted 6 years ago

   I have noticed it too. May was low but other months were higher in past.

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      vocalcoachposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      I find this a bit dis-heartening.  Still, I know earnings will pick up at some point.  Thanks.

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    Jesse Drzalposted 6 years ago

    Traffic fluctuations are normal. It's recommended to maintain an even keel demeanor.

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       Will Apseposted 6 years agoin reply to this

       That's it. Ad values for winter-related products/activities will certainly rise in a few months time and so will traffic.
       
       For me, and everyone else, with pages on Dengarden this is a good time of year.

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          Jesse Drzalposted 6 years agoin reply to this

          Definitely. CPM's  will be rising for the rest of the year.

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       vocalcoachposted 6 years agoin reply to this

       Will do and thanks!

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    Jodahposted 6 years ago

    Similar here. My views have been great, but monthly income down 50% for around four months. Back to normal in may, but only thanks to an Amazon sale.

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       vocalcoachposted 6 years agoin reply to this

       Sorry to hear this, John.  This is the first time in 7 years this has occurred.  Just came as a bit of a surprise.   I,m sure my next payment will make me smile.

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    Jesse Drzalposted 6 years ago

    What's nice for your summer/fall seasonal articles is that you at least get the elevated CPM's when people are viewing..as opposed to the early quarter rates which are lower. Got to look on the positive side of things sometimes.

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    Janellegemsposted 6 years ago

    My earnings also went down. It's very discouraging.

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       vocalcoachposted 6 years agoin reply to this

       I'm tweaking older hubs, making titles more user friendly and updating with new info.  This just might help.

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    Chriswillman90posted 6 years ago

    I'm always curious to learn what people would be satisfied with earning every month from hubpages (realistically). I know I'm happy earning a couple extra hundred per month from passive income but how about everyone else.

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       Jodahposted 6 years agoin reply to this

       If I got anywhere near that much I would be happy Chris. I don't make that much in a year.

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          Chriswillman90posted 6 years agoin reply to this

          That's a shame given your writing repertoire, you deserve millions of views as each written piece knocks it out of the park.

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             Jodahposted 6 years agoin reply to this

             Thanks, Chris. Much appreciated, just tell that to everyone else..haha.

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