Does the LV shooter's doc have some responsibility?

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   RTalloniposted 6 years ago

   Does the LV shooter's doc have some responsibility?
   
   So much being said about the evil actions of the LV shooter amid confusion about his motive. Anyone thinking about meds known to cause depressed people to act in ways they otherwise would not. Do HIPAA laws protect docs more than patients who now have their records online? We are seeing medical professionals acting as heroes and heroines in this tragedy, which is not uncommon, but are docs who disregard the warnings of meds so they can lightly prescribe pharmaceuticals with serious side effects for far too many people more responsible than we acknowledge?

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   Kenna McHughposted 6 years ago

   Oh yes! It is meds. www.cchr.org - once again, behind every violent crime is a psychiatrist.

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      RTalloniposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Not going there...

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   Deborah Demanderposted 6 years ago

   It doesn't seem like this was a random, spur of the moment action. My understanding is that he checked into the hotel several days before the actual shooting. My point is that this act was well thought out and planned. I don't know how psyche meds work, but I believe the sole responsibility for this tremendous tragedy lies squarely upon the shoulders of the man who committed the atrocity. It is a mistake to blame doctors, medication, gun laws, or whatever else people will be complaining about in coming days. He made a decision and he killed dozens of people. He is entirely responsible. Let's stop trying to cast blame where it doesn't belong.

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      RTalloniposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      True, but it could be important to know whether he was on meds and which ones. It is an interesting study to look at the record of people making decisions and taking even violent action due to meds for depression, anxiety, and various psych meds.

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   Ericdierkerposted 6 years ago

   I am not sure about looking at this from a point of finding fault or responsibility is that helpful, unless we are talking broader spectrum industry standards.
   We are just now seeing lawsuits by AG's regarding industry malfeasance in the Opiod epidemic.So the theories are viable regarding prescribing and marketing of certain problematic medicines.
   It would seem that in this case it is a good idea to look into his medical history to try and gain insight.
   From my understanding it would be more likely that a case of going off of meds would be a culprit. Whether it be withdrawal symptoms or just that his crazed mind was not medicated enough to prevent a psychotic episode.
   It seems to me that we do not hear enough about the fact that probably at least half of ISIS recruits have an untreated mental illness. Mood disorders are still stigmatized and so many parents of and sufferers themselves are not getting the help they need.
   (Just tossing it out there - if I understand correctly Obamacare folks can save a lot of money by not getting coverage for specialists like psychiatry)
   I do not mean this in a legal liability way but I do think that people who interact with people clearly deranged do have a moral social responsibility to that soul and others he may hurt. Do you rat on a spouse beater? I do and have. Do you rat on an obvious crazy person if you are their significant other or guardian of some sort? I would.
   It seems obvious that we should in some way accept responsibility for our neighbor. We should care enough to stick our neck out.

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      RTalloniposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Yes, not that helpful for this tragedy but knowing what meds he may have been prescribed could provide important lessons, then again, there may have been none. Evil can be quite clever at covering tracks, twisting truth, manipulation, and more.

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   dashingscorpioposted 6 years ago

   
   
   I see a common pattern with all of these mass shootings.
   1. Shock
   2. A mad search for reasons why
   3. Blame someone other than the shooter
   4. Civil lawsuits filed against the person with deep pockets
   5. Discussions about creating commonsense gun laws
   6. Move on to the next big story
   We're afraid if there is nothing we can point to that would have prevented it because that would mean it could happen at anytime. A "lone wolf" is nearly impossible to stop.

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      Ericdierkerposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Maybe too black and white for me. I think most of us look a little deeper and not quite so shallow. But I get your point.

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      RTalloniposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Good point to keep in mind as part of the discussion on blame. He is responsible no matter what factors played into the decisions he made that led to his actions.

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