Does God Support the Democrats? Maxine Waters thinks so...

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  1. RJ Schwartz profile image87
    RJ Schwartzposted 5 years ago

    In an unhinged rant, Congresswoman Maxine Waters urged supporters to harass and protest any member of the Trump team they see in public.  She is obsessed with seeing the President impeached and will use any means possible to stir up trouble.  She feels this is justified because "God is on our side," referring to her political party.  She's trying to use the false narrative of Trump hurting children on the border to gin up support (how many children does Planned Parenthood kill annually?)

    The nation is at a tipping point when elected members of government are telling voters to harass other citizens - how soon until someone get seriously hurt, or worse?

    Do you believe "God" supports one party over the other?  Or does "God" stay out of politics?

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      PrettyPantherposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      Religious people often, if not always, believe God is on their side. Of course, they can't all be right. Evangelicals say Trump was sent by God to save us. Sessions and Sanders both invoked the Bible to justify their family separation policy. Maxine Waters is just as nutty as they are to believe God supports harassing people in public.

      1. RJ Schwartz profile image87
        RJ Schwartzposted 5 years agoin reply to this

        Maybe there's more than one God out there....

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          PrettyPantherposted 5 years agoin reply to this

          ....or maybe there is no God at all....

          1. Castlepaloma profile image76
            Castlepalomaposted 5 years agoin reply to this

            The fastest growing group is non- believers maybe some day they can push out the 99% Jewish/Christians congress, or....... Maybe not.

            1. RJ Schwartz profile image87
              RJ Schwartzposted 5 years agoin reply to this

              not exactly true - the fastest growing religion over the last few years was Islam, but now its Paganism, I believe (people who are returning to the old religious and ritual practices of their ancestors (pre-Christianity))

              1. Castlepaloma profile image76
                Castlepalomaposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                Survey done by National Geography says atheist is the fastest going Religion in the world.

                Most people tell me they Spiritual rather than Religious. Just add paganism to your long list of non believers in God.

                Other non believers in God it much greater. A  religion can be a system of rules, obligations or advice…or philosophy
                Buddhists don't believe in God. Others
                Agnostic
                Wiccan
                Satanism
                Spiritualism
                Taoism
                To names a few

                1. RJ Schwartz profile image87
                  RJ Schwartzposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                  It’s not a religion though

                  1. Castlepaloma profile image76
                    Castlepalomaposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                    With Obama's Signature, U.S. Religious Freedom Law Protects Atheists
                    Yet saying atheist is a Religion is a crock to me.

          2. Live to Learn profile image61
            Live to Learnposted 5 years agoin reply to this

            Or (more likely) God doesn't give a hoot about American politics.

            1. MizBejabbers profile image87
              MizBejabbersposted 5 years agoin reply to this

              +1,000,000

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        RTalloniposted 5 years agoin reply to this

        To say that all evangelicals believe what you state is incorrect. Some who at least claim to be evangelical are indeed vocal about that belief/hope, but they certainly do not speak for all. To say they do is to stereotype people.

        As well, thankfully, anyone stating that all liberals stand with this Maxine Waters' position that it is open season on conservatives is also stereotyping people. In this case, though, it is a call to commit the felony of stalking people and worse, which is unwise for her and her followers, and unsafe for those these people attack.

        The bias involved in stereotyping is problematic for the person doing it, their cause, and for those who are being stereotyped. It is a waste of time and energy, foolishness at its best, dangerous more often then we think. Productive ways of communicating take more work and require a willingness to demand objectivity of ourselves no matter how we feel.

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          ahorsebackposted 5 years agoin reply to this

          Yet , the many many  Maxine Waters  of the left roll on unhindered by their constituencies ,  How passive  as the silent masses of the left  sit on the sidelines as their leaders call for even  civil obstruction , yes violence and destruction in front of microphones ?

          How honorable ,   You say..." not all stand with Maxine Waters ......."?
          No,  but you sure do ALL stand rather silently for such a vocal bunch .
          Mark my words about this , when the left finally gets violent , the right righteously responds in defense , That will be the fault of the right .

          1. Live to Learn profile image61
            Live to Learnposted 5 years agoin reply to this

            Democrats may find themselves put out on their ear and grappling with how to reclaim their relevance. I read that a powerful Democrat was unseated in a surprise win by a dark horse socialist. This news may be a harbinger of things to come. Play with fire you eventually get burned.

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              ahorsebackposted 5 years agoin reply to this

              Yes ,  NY Senator replaced by an avowed ,young female American Socialist / Democratic party candidate .   Let's hope they are all replaced by something different .

              1. MizBejabbers profile image87
                MizBejabbersposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                You really would rather see a Socialist in office than a Democrat? Then you ain't seen nuthin' yet. People are getting disgusted with Democrats (I for one) because they are becoming too socialistic.

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                  ahorsebackposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                  NO ! I don't want socialists in our government , not now , not ever . Read the thread , anybody that knows me knows how I feel about socialism .
                  Just fall off the turnip truck or something ?

                  1. MizBejabbers profile image87
                    MizBejabbersposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                    No, I did not fall off a turnip truck. I am a legal editor and according to your sentence structure, that is what you said. I didn't think you realized what you wrote. Your sentence "Let's hope they are all replaced by something different." is ambiguous because "all" may or may not include the socialist/democrat who replaced the democrat. It is up to the writer to make himself clear, not the reader to guess at the meaning or to read a whole thread to make an educated guess.

              2. Credence2 profile image78
                Credence2posted 5 years agoin reply to this

                I think the young lady and her success is good news, more of the Bernie Sanders style over the Hillary C. I welcome a fresh face and bold approach against an ever increasing and encroaching right wing machine. The true Progressive is nothing like them and I don't want my candidates carrying any their stench as my choice next fall.

                I don't live in New York, but she and others like her have my complete support

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                  ahorsebackposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                  Well , there's a huge surprise , like yourself , Let's all welcome socialism and deny that we are doing that .  Socialism isn't going anywhere fast in this political system , I suggest anyone wanting socialism go to Argentina or Canada.

    2. JAKE Earthshine profile image68
      JAKE Earthshineposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      God and the forces of good certainly aren't on the side of Trump's evil darkness, nor are they on the side of his republican cult accomplices in congress: Trump's evil was given the key to power while we slept, and now it will be a monumental struggle to defeat it but in the end, good always triumphs over darkness:

      1. Live to Learn profile image61
        Live to Learnposted 5 years agoin reply to this

        Coming from the perpetrator of dark half truths here on this site, I'm actually impressed you admit that.

      2. RJ Schwartz profile image87
        RJ Schwartzposted 5 years agoin reply to this

        Jake,

        God and the forces of good triumphed with the defeat of Hillary Clinton: Trump was ELECTED by voters to fix the mistakes of the Obama "fiasco years"   There was no midnight conspiracy to secretly transfer power over to Trump.  Save the sensationalism and try to express yourself as if you were talking to adults.  This is Hubpages, not Propaganda Pages

        1. JAKE Earthshine profile image68
          JAKE Earthshineposted 5 years agoin reply to this

          Actually, that's  not true RJ, and now the church, vessels of God, are obstructing and blocking the forces of darkness like Mr. Trump and Sessions for their evil acts of atrocity: It's nothing less than insane that they are still allowed to pollute our white house:

          The forces of good will ultimately triumph over this ultra corrupt, wicked and false administration and it will happen with a great crescendo: God is watching and God will lay his heavy hand down soon:

          "600 United Methodists file church complaint against Jeff Sessions"

          "RNS) — More than 600 United Methodist clergy and laypeople have signed a formal denominational complaint against fellow United Methodist Attorney General Jeff Sessions, condemning his role in the Trump administration’s “zero-tolerance” policy of separating children from their parents along the U.S.-Mexico border. The charges include child abuse, immorality, racial discrimination and “dissemination of doctrines contrary to the standards of doctrine of the United Methodist Church.”

          1. RJ Schwartz profile image87
            RJ Schwartzposted 5 years agoin reply to this

            I just posted on your other thread - you know, the one where you used a parody website as your source - and your laughable main argument stating Trump was excommunicated from the Presbyterian church - and what's even funnier, you supported those lies with more of your own lies.....talk about a propagandist (Joseph Goebbels would be proud of you Jake - he's likely offer you a job)

            How about you provide us with proof of your understanding of the thoughts and plans of a Divine being Jake - you don't know squat about religion just like the many other topics you spew about.  And just to be clear - the Church you are supporting with such fervor - is being exposed daily for their lies and internal corruption.
            I think the Zero-Tolerance policy doesn't go far enough - I'd close the border if it were me - ICE would be elevated to the same level as the National Guard and given the mission to capture, detain, and deport anyone without proof of citizenship or legal entry into the country.

    3. Readmikenow profile image95
      Readmikenowposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      How many leaders in the Democrat party have come out against what Maxine Waters has said?  NONE.  I guess this tells you all you need to know about the Democrat party.

      1. Randy Godwin profile image61
        Randy Godwinposted 5 years agoin reply to this

        Watch some real news sources, Mike. Nancy Pelosi has already addressed this hours ago.  I guess this tells you something about the Republican Party?

        1. Readmikenow profile image95
          Readmikenowposted 5 years agoin reply to this

          Randy, again, This is what Nancy Pelosi did

          "House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi wrote online Monday that elections should be conducted in a way that "achieves unity" despite President Donald Trump's "lack of civility," in what appeared to be a gentle rebuke of Rep. Maxine Waters’ call for Trump opponents to confront members of the administration wherever they may be.

          “In the crucial months ahead, we must strive to make America beautiful again. Trump’s daily lack of civility has provoked responses that are predictable but unacceptable,” Pelosi (D-Calif.) wrote on Twitter. “As we go forward, we must conduct elections in a way that achieves unity from sea to shining sea.”

          https://www.politico.com/story/2018/06/ … eet-669489

          "appeared to be a gentle rebuke?" This is no rebuke of anything.  If she really didn't like what Maxine Waters said she would have mentioned her name and distanced herself from what was said.  This is nothing more than cowardly response with a hope that someone takes it the right way.  This is a pathetic response.  Now, I guess THIS tells you something about the Democrat party leadership.

      2. IslandBites profile image89
        IslandBitesposted 5 years agoin reply to this

        Fox News @FoxNews
        On the Senate floor Monday, @SenSchumer rebuked @RepMaxineWaters' comments calling for people to confront members of the Trump administration anywhere they're seen in public.

        https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dgk8ktHXcAA1Tjh.jpg:large

        1. Readmikenow profile image95
          Readmikenowposted 5 years agoin reply to this

          Where in this statement is Maxine Waters mentioned and what she said cited? This is a very cowardly response.

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            ahorsebackposted 5 years agoin reply to this

            Chuck , Maxine , two people who personify the lowest form of cowardice in all of humanity . Look at their faces in the state of the union speech by Trump , .................tells me all I need to know about political cowardice .

            Now morphing into violence ?  What hero's .

            1. Live to Learn profile image61
              Live to Learnposted 5 years agoin reply to this

              This is a prime example of the 'tolerance' of the left. 'Do as you will. We won't condemn you, personally. If you meet the criteria. If you toe the line. You don't have to think or act responsibly. Because you are one of us,'  And, they won't take responsibility. They haven't yet. For every act of intolerance, for every act of violence. But,let some guy they can super glue to the right consider anything and they are up in arms at the right, because someone might have had a thoughtthey didn't like and it might,possibly, if given the opportunity, incite violence. Liberal, juvenile. The words are becoming synonymous. It's the Facebook mob party.

  2. Castlepaloma profile image76
    Castlepalomaposted 5 years ago

    Pope said Trump is not a Christian, who knows better than him.
    So Trump is out.  Thank doG! The Nazis had : God is with US: on their belt buckles.

    1. RJ Schwartz profile image87
      RJ Schwartzposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      So we're supposed to believe the Pedo-In-Chief ?  The Catholic Church is pretty far removed from being the moral compass for anyone with more than a third grade education.

      1. Castlepaloma profile image76
        Castlepalomaposted 5 years agoin reply to this

        Nature is my Religion, that make Trump out ten folded. My life is based on good sense, when any individual make good sense like pope Francis it can be incorporated into my circle. He explains Christians make roads and bridges, not walls. He expressed more pro ethical things, less con morals.

  3. Castlepaloma profile image76
    Castlepalomaposted 5 years ago

    God only being with Democrats is Dangerous.

    Vice President Mike Pence wants evey public school to teach Creatiism. He says Planet of the Apes and Gravity is just a theory.

    Can you push a politician off a cliff to test a theory of Gravity?

    1. Live to Learn profile image61
      Live to Learnposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      Well, the jury is still out on gravity but Planet of the Apes just a theory???? That's just heresy.

      1. Castlepaloma profile image76
        Castlepalomaposted 5 years agoin reply to this

        Mike was joking planet of the ape with the monkey trails. That brought about evolution taught in schools. Mike said Evolution is taught as fact, not theory.

    2. MizBejabbers profile image87
      MizBejabbersposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      Castlepaloma, I think that would be illegal, but sometimes I'd like to.

      1. Castlepaloma profile image76
        Castlepalomaposted 5 years agoin reply to this

        Sheep follow sheep.

        A true story about one lead sheep fall off a cliff and 1500 sheep follow him. About 470 died and the rest were injured. After the first 500 it built its own giant bed mattress to save the rest.

        My counting sheep to sleep, might turn into nightmares now.

  4. Aime F profile image71
    Aime Fposted 5 years ago

    I’ll go with option C which is “God” doesn’t exist and people just use the concept as an excuse to assert their opinions as though they’re backed by some higher authority.

    1. Randy Godwin profile image61
      Randy Godwinposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      I too have little faith in decisions made by those who base their  arguments on an invisible entity who cannot speak for itself.  If I claimed the Flying spaghetti Monster informed me what to believe, I would get the same reaction from the Xtians

      1. GA Anderson profile image88
        GA Andersonposted 5 years agoin reply to this

        "...The forces of good will ultimately triumph over this ultra corrupt, wicked and false administration and it will happen with a great crescendo: God is watching and God will lay his heavy hand down soon:"
        https://hubpages.com/politics/forum/339 … ost4012665

        "I'm confident that my Christian teachings reveal the fact that God will inevitably make absolutely sure Mr. Trump and his entire grifter family are relegated to a miserable burning hell when he/she takes them from this dimension..."  https://hubpages.com/politics/forum/339 … ost4011809

        "God and the forces of good certainly aren't on the side of Trump's evil darkness, nor are they on the side of his republican cult accomplices in congress"  https://hubpages.com/politics/forum/339 … ost4012631

        Is it only those you disagree with that you have little faith in when they bring God into their rational?

        GA

      2. RJ Schwartz profile image87
        RJ Schwartzposted 5 years agoin reply to this

        If the Flying Spaghetti Monster does say something then I want to know

    2. Castlepaloma profile image76
      Castlepalomaposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      I can't stand all these layers and layers of authorities and hidden laws. They get in the way of my ethics all the time.

  5. MizBejabbers profile image87
    MizBejabbersposted 5 years ago

    It is my personal belief that God neither cares nor does God get involved earth's politics, and that includes the U.S's two major political parties. I believe that our heavens are so layered that the creator is isolated so far above his/her lower creations, like human beings, that he/she leaves all that to his/her lieutenants (you know, angels, archangels, saints, other spirits, etc.) However, since human earth habitants were given freewill, and even the Christian bible says that, none of them are going to interfere. Like in Star Trek there is a policy of nonintervention in effect. I believe it is being left up to us to work out our own destiny, and we are the ones in power. We are the good and we are the evil who are fighting this battle on the earth's plane. I think all prayers for intervention in politics, sports events, and the 4th of July are totally fruitless.

    1. wilderness profile image95
      wildernessposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      I fear you will not get a lot of agreement from mainstream Christianity.  Some, but not a whole lot. smile

      1. MizBejabbers profile image87
        MizBejabbersposted 5 years agoin reply to this

        Wilderness, I really don't care whether or not Christians agree with me. They aren't the only game in town although they try to act like it.

  6. Readmikenow profile image95
    Readmikenowposted 5 years ago

    https://usercontent1.hubstatic.com/14098090.jpg

    1. MizBejabbers profile image87
      MizBejabbersposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      I have to admit that Maxine Waters is a nutcase. Both parties seem to have their share of albatrosses. But, ya know what...she was elected to her office just the same as Trump allegedly was.

 
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