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  1. Reality Bytes profile image73
    Reality Bytesposted 11 years ago

    Spin this:

    New Details From Libya Consulate Attack: State Department Abandons Claim Of Protest Outside Gates

    The deadly September attack on a U.S. consulate in Libya was not precipitated by an anti-American protest, as had originally been reported, the State Department disclosed Tuesday night.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/0 … 53057.html

    Absolute and deliberate deception on the part of the administration to attempt to fool the American people in to believing a completely fabricated tale.   But, who is surprised.  Not anyone aware of the Liar- In-Chief! 

    Soon, it may be revealed that requests for enhanced security was denied!

    1. Josak profile image61
      Josakposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      There were misleading reports, so what?
      Additionally if you read the chronology you posted you will see how pointless any likely extra security would have been almost 70 troops arrived to help the embassy and were driven back, numbers were obviously pretty overwhelming.

      1. profile image0
        Sarra Garrettposted 11 years agoin reply to this

        You would be surprised at how security could have slowed and/or stopped the 70 that were attacking.

      2. Reality Bytes profile image73
        Reality Bytesposted 11 years agoin reply to this

        You completely underestimate the intestinal fortitude of the United States Marine Corp!  Especially in the area of Libya!!

        In a remarkable march through the dessert with only 8 marines, a few mercenaries and a large group of Arabs and Bedouin, on starvation rations, the group arrived in Derne and managed to take the second largest city in the Barbary state of Tripoli.


  2. Reality Bytes profile image73
    Reality Bytesposted 11 years ago

    The response is exactly what I expected, this action cannot be defended.  I hope Barry does not resign as the networks are counting on the ad revenue.     lol

  3. habee profile image92
    habeeposted 11 years ago

    RB, I posted this same topic earlier, with NO responses. Start a negative thread about a conservative, however, and it gets plenty of attention! Mine linked to ABC instead of HuffPo.

    1. Mom Kat profile image76
      Mom Katposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      habee, let's face it, you're just not cut out to be a politician.  smile

      of course, neither am I ~ thank the stars!!!

  4. psycheskinner profile image83
    psycheskinnerposted 11 years ago

    I think there is a difference between having bad intelligence reports and deliberately lying.

    1. Reality Bytes profile image73
      Reality Bytesposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Are you implying that the administration did not know the truth as it was happening in real time?  The administration knew very well the details and purposely misled the nation as to the details of the event. 

      Rice contradicts Libyan account, says consulate attack was not premeditated
      By Julian Pecquet     09/16/12
      The Obama administration is sticking to its position that Tuesday's deadly attack in Benghazi wasn't premeditated, contradicting U.S. lawmakers and Libya's own president.

      Speaking on several Sunday shows, the U.S. ambassador to the United Nations Susan Rice placed the blame for violence that has spread to two dozen countries across the Muslim world squarely on a U.S.-made anti-Islam video.

      Republicans and many others are dubious, with some lawmakers suggesting the attack on the U.S. compound in Benghazi was a coordinated attack by a militant group.
      “There's no question that as we've seen in the past with things like [Salman Rushdie's] Satanic Verses, with the [Danish] cartoons of the Prophet Mohammed, there have been such things that have sparked outrage and anger, and this has been the proximate cause of what we've seen,” Rice said on Fox News Sunday. “We are of the view that this is not an expression of hostility in the broader sense toward the United States or U.S. policy. It's proximately a reaction to this video.”

      http://thehill.com/blogs/global-affairs … emeditated

      Lies, lies, lies, intentionally attempting to mislead the American people!

  5. movingout profile image61
    movingoutposted 11 years ago

    What do you expect from anyone in the WH? To immediately tell the enemy your intelligence info? To not answer the people attack. If they answer in a way to protect intelligence, they lied. Hell, the enemy knows more about our plans, just by watching all the news channels! If people were patient, they might get the information (That can be released). But now a days, the news want the information immediately! Used to be, if something like this happened in the past, a response would be given with no details. But with the internet, people want to know right a way, even if it risks national security!

    1. Reality Bytes profile image73
      Reality Bytesposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Through their lies and blaming the video, the administration not only misled the American people, they exacerbated the issue by calling out the video. This caused more people to view the video which enhanced protests globally.  A purposely stated piece of propaganda which made matters worse, caused more of a security threat to our diplomats worldwide and just a scumbag sort of operation!

  6. maxoxam41 profile image64
    maxoxam41posted 11 years ago

    That's the reason why I advise the American people to get their news from another source than the local one. It's been weeks that my source of info revealed the truth behind the assassination of the American ambassador and its consequence worldwide. I personally don't trust the mainstream news.

  7. Reality Bytes profile image73
    Reality Bytesposted 11 years ago

    Rep. Trey Gowdy Explodes At Libya Hearing: 'I Want To Know Why


    Gowdy quoted Rice as saying, "Our current assessment is that what happened in Beghazi was...in fact, initially a spontaneous reaction" to an anti-Muslim YouTube video.

    "I don't know what the phrase "in fact" means in diplomatic legalese. I can tell you what it means in a court room, it means it's a fact," Gowdy proclaimed.

    "I would like to have another hearing where we can ask Ambassador Rice, under oath, who told you what when. You are going to blame the intelligence committee? You come before this committee and you tell us who told you it was video!" he added, raising his voice now."

    10/10/12 Libya timeline showing lie after lie by Obama administration officials


    Ta Da Dum Ta Da Dum

    That's All Folks


  8. Reality Bytes profile image73
    Reality Bytesposted 11 years ago

    Dennis Kucinich is right on target! 10-20,000 shoulder launched rockets capable of taking down a commercial airliner are unaccounted for!

    Video: House committee holds hearing on failures in Benghazi Libya Ambassador Christopher Stevens


    "AlQaeda is now more established in Libya than the United States!"

    Lt. Col. Wood

    They must be so thankful to their NATO allies!

  9. psycheskinner profile image83
    psycheskinnerposted 11 years ago

    So the thread starts with lies but we just continue the sentiment as if that doesn't matter?

    Why not start a new thread to discuss a new accusation? Otherwise I will assume they are all equally dubious.

  10. Reality Bytes profile image73
    Reality Bytesposted 11 years ago

    What Happened In Benghazi — Today’s Q’s for O’s WH — 10/10/12

    By Jake Tapper

    Oct 10, 2012 3:04pm

    TAPPER: President Obama shortly after the attacks told “60 Minutes” that regarding Romney’s response to the attack, specifically in Egypt, the president said that Romney has a tendency to shoot first and aim later. Given the fact that so much was made out of the video that apparently had absolutely nothing to do with the attack on Benghazi, that there wasn’t even a protest outside the Benghazi post, didn’t President Obama shoot first and aim later?
    CARNEY: First of all, Jake, I think your assessment about what we know now is not complete. But I would simply say that –
    TAPPER: What part are you talking — because I’m just going by what the State Department said yesterday, what –
    CARNEY: There is no question that in the region, including in Cairo, there were demonstrations reacting to the –
    TAPPER: I’m talking about Benghazi –
    CARNEY: — the release of that video. And I will leave it to those who are testifying on the Hill to talk about, as they are –
    TAPPER: The State Department said yesterday there was no protests.
    CARNEY: That — that’s not what you said, though. You — there were — there were –
    TAPPER: I’m talking about in Benghazi.
    CARNEY: Right.
    TAPPER: I’m not –
    CARNEY: I’m not disputing that there was a protest. But what we said at the time is our intelligence community assessed that the attack began spontaneously following protests earlier that day at our embassy in Cairo. OK?

    http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/20 … wh-101012/

    White House Asked Isn't Obama The One Who Shot First, Aimed Later on Libya?


    There was no protesters, zero, nada, did not happen, lies, intentional deception!

  11. Reality Bytes profile image73
    Reality Bytesposted 11 years ago

    According to one of the key witnesses expected to testify before the committee this week, even Ambassador Stevens himself had repeatedly requested more security personnel, but was turned down.

    Lt. Col. Andy Wood, the former head of a U.S. Special Forces "Site Security Team" in Libya, has told CBS News correspondent Sharyl Attkisson that he and many other senior staff at the U.S. Embassy in Tripoli, "felt we needed more, not less" security personnel in the country, but were told "to do with less. For what reasons, I don't know."

    Wood and others have portrayed a State Department in Washington that was either unwilling to provide American officials in Libya with the security they required or ignorant of the pressing security concerns in a country where the central government is weak, and Islamic extremist militias have enjoyed virtual free reign in the power vacuum created by the toppling and killing of long-time dictator Muammar Qaddafi.

    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-202_162-575 … -missteps/

    Humpty Dumpty sat on a wall,
    Humpty Dumpty had a great fall.
    All the King's horses, And all the King's men
    Couldn't put Humpty together again!

  12. Reality Bytes profile image73
    Reality Bytesposted 11 years ago

    Even piers Morgan is on the trail of lies and deception!

    Wasserman Schultz on Libyan attack intel


  13. Ralph Deeds profile image65
    Ralph Deedsposted 11 years ago

    I believe it was Ambassador to the United Nations Susan Rice, not anyone in the White House, who mistakenly attributed the Bengazi consulate attack to spontaneous protests due to the anti-Muslim movie.Her statement was based on inaccurate intelligence reports. 

    http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/posts … ccusations

    1. Reality Bytes profile image73
      Reality Bytesposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Ralph, there are many administration officials complacent in the deception.  There is surveillance video of the whole attack, it was known immediately that this was a coordinated attack.

      10/10/12 Libya timeline showing lie after lie by Obama administration officials


      I have attempted to avoid using Fox as a source, but they did a good job in their chronology.

      1. KFlippin profile image61
        KFlippinposted 11 years agoin reply to this

        Yes, they did (FOX) cover it very well,and  they (the Administration) were, are, complacent in the ongoing decpetion, that is very clear now.  And Rice was told what to say, I can find myself being sorry for her being made the patsy, it is no different than the coordinated mainstream media talking points that are put out regularly for the last 3 plus years.  Everyone gets their talking points from one source, their coordinated message, in order to control the story line, that's what it seems to me anyway when I watch all the channels and literally here the same words.  It is all quite sad, and clearly the lives lost in Libya weren't even enough to stop that regular train track of crap.  Did anyone notice how very little CNN has even covered this cover up the past 2 days?  It's nauseous and can make one hopeless about the future of the USA.

  14. Mighty Mom profile image76
    Mighty Momposted 11 years ago

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/1 … 54912.html

    And whose fault is it that there was not more security there protecting the ambassador?

    When you point a finger, there are three more pointing back at you.
    Watch the video of Rep Chaffetz with Soledad O'Brien. It's priceless.

    Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah) acknowledged on Wednesday that House Republicans had consciously voted to reduce the funds allocated to the State Department for embassy security since winning the majority in 2010.

    On Wednesday morning, CNN anchor Soledad O'Brien asked the Utah Republican if he had "voted to cut the funding for embassy security."

  15. Reality Bytes profile image73
    Reality Bytesposted 11 years ago


    Masked gunmen have attacked and killed a security official at the U.S. embassy in Sanaa, Yemen, Reuters reported early this morning.

    Today's attack on the U.S. security official--likely the work of Al Qaeda, which is battling U.S. drone strikes and counter-terror operations in Yemen--has not been accompanied by similar rationalizations, but underlines the fact that terrorists are planning and carrying out attacks against U.S. diplomatic targets. Al Qaeda pursued a similar strategy in the late 1990s, before the U.S. shifted its strategy away from a law enforcement approach. Both the Bush and the Obama administrations have carried out drone strikes in Yemen against Al Qaeda.

    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2012 … One-Killed

    Security official for U.S. Embassy in Yemen killed

    http://www.cnn.com/2012/10/11/world/mea … opstories+(RSS%3A+Top+Stories)

  16. maxoxam41 profile image64
    maxoxam41posted 11 years ago

    Whose interests those assassinations will favor? Unfortunately only two possible options will be considered. The Netanyahu's government or the US. Netanyahu's greed to expand its power (by letting the US install another puppet at the head of the new regime) will be the winner if the Americans intervene. As Sept 11 trick, by killing US officials, the people therefore the government will be outraged. Then what will happen? To the joy of Netanyahu (he urged the US to attack Iran several times unsuccessfully) and the military industrial complex (will cash in billions of dollars as usual) the US will pretend that the middle east is unsafe and launch their crusade!

  17. Wayne Brown profile image80
    Wayne Brownposted 11 years ago

    You just keep thinking about that "Max", while Iran and China build nuclear weapons together. ~WB

    1. maxoxam41 profile image64
      maxoxam41posted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Exactly, as the world knows it. Only the US used the nuclear bomb on civilians! Not once! TWICE.

  18. maxoxam41 profile image64
    maxoxam41posted 11 years ago



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