GOP Senate Candidate says God Intended Pregnancies From Rape

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   tammybarnetteposted 12 years ago

   http://news.yahoo.com/gop-senate-candid … itics.html
   
   Indiana Republican Senate Candidate Richarard Murdock said pregnancies resulting from rape are part of God's plan....

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      Credence2posted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Yes, Tammy, barbarians and neaderthols threaten the civil discourse among civilized people. How does the GOP keep the ugly wart on the face that it presents to world from actually being seen and commented upon? They have not done too good of a job thus far.

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         tammybarnetteposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Credence2, The part that really blows my mind; so many women still support him...I just do not understand that. It opens the flood gates and turns our country in a retrospective position that wil never be able to compete in the global economy.

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         gmwilliamsposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         + OVER A MULTILLION TIMES.

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   rebekahELLEposted 12 years ago

   A statement which will most likely keep the Senate Democrat controlled..

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      tammybarnetteposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      I hope your right about that...I am flabbergasted by the extremism of the GOP today...I honestly believe our seperation of Church and State policy is the fundamental reason for our power as a nation...mixing that all back together, well we would be no different than the middle east...

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   rebekahELLEposted 12 years ago

   It is so far right that, (to them), Obama looks far left, which we know he's not.  He's closer to being a centrist than most will acknowledge, left of center.

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      tammybarnetteposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      RebekahELLE, He is the most center dem ever...he is more center than Clinton...His foriegn policy is almost Conservative, I guess that is why Romney agreed with him so much. This is a scary day for our American culture.

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   Hollie Thomasposted 12 years ago

   This is a gender issue. I can't believe that in this day and age, women are still having to listen to this kind of crap, from some man who will never know what it is to be raped and conceive a child from rape. Who the F does he think he is? He should only make judgements about circumstances which he is likely to experience one day. He needs to shut up, the hypocrisy is sickening.

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      tammybarnetteposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Hollie, I know, it's insane thinking that I can not even comprehend...If that party takes over I fear our future as women, I have 4 daughters, the oldest is my step the youngest only 4...I never would have believed I would be worrying about this for their future.

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         Hollie Thomasposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         You're right Tammy, it's frightening. I don't live in the US, but this IS a gender issue and what happens in the US tends to eventually happen here. I have one daughter, she's 15, I worry about her so much, too. You don't have to be a bra burning feminist to see that what is coming down the line does not play out well for women, not at all. I hope those nut jobs never, ever see power.

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            tammybarnetteposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            Hollie, From your lips to God's ears

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               Hollie Thomasposted 12 years agoin reply to this

               

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                  Uninvited Writerposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                  And, he has spoken again...
                  
                  http://dailycurrant.com/2012/10/24/murd … ed-harder/

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                     tammybarnetteposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                     Wow! He's digging a big hole! I hope he falls in it!

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                        Hollie Thomasposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                        Seriously though, have close family members or concerned neighbours not considered the "sectioning" option? I mean, here is a man who clearly believes that women who have been raped might have avoided their fate if only they had "prayed a little more" there appears to be some major psychological/perhaps psychiatric issues there. And, he certainly appears to present as a danger to others, if not to himself.

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                     Helena Rickettsposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                     Um, you do realize that you just cited a satire website that is similar to The Onion?
                     
                     The same site is also running these stories:
                     
                     Obama Begins 24 Hour Rocky Marathon  http://dailycurrant.com/2012/10/15/obam … -marathon/
                     
                     Biden Calls Ryan's Mother to Apologize for Ass Kicking  http://dailycurrant.com/2012/10/11/bide … -whopping/
                     
                     Romney Slits Candy Crowley's Tires  http://dailycurrant.com/2012/10/16/romn … lys-tires/
                     
                     and my personal favorite...
                     
                     Steve Jobs Almost Done Reinventing Heaven  http://dailycurrant.com/2012/10/05/stev … ng-heaven/
                     
                     Like I always say, don't believe everything that you read online.

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      gmwilliamsposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      THANK YOU, Hollie.    How DARE they tell a woman to forcibly endure an unwanted pregnancy, espcially one as a result of a violent act!   How egregiously insensitive indeed!    Has this  so-called GOP candidate lost what is left of what little mind he has?!

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   Repairguy47posted 12 years ago

   Its a good thing women are not as dumb as you libs presume! They are not buying the lefts fabricated war on women. Women will put Romney over the top, because they want jobs too!

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      tammybarnetteposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      I am sure they want rights as well Repairguy...

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         Repairguy47posted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Perhaps you can tell me what rights they've lost.

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            Hollie Thomasposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            The fact that you even have to ask that question speaks volumes about your knowledge regarding the issue.

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            tammybarnetteposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            Repairguy, I am guessing you are a man, but gyno visits and controception are basic healthcare needs of women, many women use contraceptives for other reasons than merely birthcontrol...I myself was having personal problems, I will not go into to detail, but I had to use birthcontrol at age 35 and then schedule a surgery this year...Roe v Wade was a huge fight, there are many reasons for abortion and DNC's being such, but now this right wing zealot comes out and blames the woman for being raped, that she didn't pray hard enough! Those are the rights inwhich I speak, and it opens the flood gates....

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      Credence2posted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Your precious Romney will make sure that men are 'on top' at the expense of women. Don't you worry, the war is quite real as skirmish after skirmish indicates

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         Repairguy47posted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Where are the skirmishes occurring?

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            Credence2posted 12 years agoin reply to this

            Don't get simple on me, Repair, Have you been following the news? Rerograde struggles in regard to abortion
            , planned parenthood, probes into private parts, that sort of thing, you know. Yes, If i were female I want jobs but my reproductive rights should not be the price I pay to obtain them Your party platform denies women abortion rights in all cases except the life to the mother, this arrogance is war in itself on one half of our population. And for this the rightwinger will pay dearly at the polls,

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               Repairguy47posted 12 years agoin reply to this

               Where is abortion illegal?

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                  tammybarnetteposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                  That is Roe v Wade...one of the first steps R/R wants to take IF they take office. Then it will be illegal everywhere

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                     Repairguy47posted 12 years agoin reply to this

                     I asked where abortion is illegal, answer please?

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                        tammybarnetteposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                        Look above please...Roe V Wade, do you understand that is the law that made it legal, it is on the chopping block of R/R...

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                        Credence2posted 12 years agoin reply to this

                        Cmon, Repair RR both pledges to repeal Roe Vs Wade, don't act so astonished. That personhood stance taken Ryan is even more an affront to the rights of women, Brother, are your people in trouble or what?

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                           Repairguy47posted 12 years agoin reply to this

                           Proof please.

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                              tammybarnetteposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                              http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2 … plans.html
                              I know you were speaking to Credence, but wanted you to see for yourself

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                                 Repairguy47posted 12 years agoin reply to this

                                 I asked for proof that they pledged to outlaw abortion. That isn't it. There is this little thing called the supreme court that may have something to say. By the way their religion is against abortion, why would they disregard their principals? They are not democrats who lie nonstop.

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                                    tammybarnetteposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                                    I am a Christian sir, and there is this little thing we call seperation of Churchand State...I do not believe my personal beliefs with my God should be shoved down others throats...AND, I explained to you earlier about the need for some abortions, the generalization of the subject is the problem, awareness is important...people should always make informed decisions, right?

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                                       Repairguy47posted 12 years agoin reply to this

                                       Seperation of church and state has nothing to do with this in the way you speak. You try to incite fear as to what a republican will do to outlaw abortion. We have had republican presidents and abortion is still legal.

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                                          Josakposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                                          The GOP platform clearly states it intends to make abortion illegal in all states, repeal Roe vs Wade and pass the Personhood act. Romney has also pledged to move for a referendum to make gay marriage constitutionally illegal across the United States including those states who already have it.
                                          It's a platform and a party running on taking away people's rights.

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                                       tammybarnetteposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                                       Repairguy, You saw with your own eyes and heard with your own ears? That is part of their platform," them ain't no ordnary republicns" (Imagine Larry the Cable Guys voice here....They are far right zealots, it is different, and why I am so passionate, I am a woman, it is my rights, I have 4 daughters, it is different!!!!

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   Sooner28posted 12 years ago

   For a Republican, he is quite enlightened.  He didn't differentiate between "forcible" and "nonforcible" rape.  Maybe the party is getting better .

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      tammybarnetteposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      

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   chaoticpsycheposted 12 years ago

   I think the thought, and after reading the whole article, was that any pregnancy is a gift from God. Just because the means to that pregnancy was horrible, does not mean the child will not be a gift from God.

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      tammybarnetteposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Yes, that is what he meant, the baby is the gift from God, I have a problem however with the idea of women being forced to have their rapist child...it is not the babies fault, of course, but that is between a woman and her God, government should never be allowed to intervene...

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   Mighty Momposted 12 years ago

   There is no ambiguity here.
   The Republican platform is to outlaw ALL abortions. No exceptions.
   That is quite clearly Paul Ryan's stance.
   Romney in the primaries said he would be DELIGHTED to sign legislation outlawing abortion.
   He has 'softened' his position recently in an effort to pull in unsuspecting women voters.
   But, Mourdock is the ONLY Senate candidate Romney endorsed.
   He must be very, very familiar with Mr. Mourdock.
   He says he wants him in Congress.
   
   Atkins, Mourdock, Walsh, Ryan -- there are many more who are smart enough not to talk to the media about their agenda.
   
   Anyone who thinks Roe v. Wade is not in play has not been paying attention.
   We have a little under 2 weeks to WAKE UP and PAY ATTENTION.
   A Romney SCOTUS WILL Repeal Roe v. Wade.

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   chaoticpsycheposted 12 years ago

   Tammy - I agree. The only reason for abortion should be in cases of rape. Of course this is only my opinion.

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      Sooner28posted 12 years agoin reply to this

      And do you want your opinion to be binding on all women?

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      Mighty Momposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Did you read any of tammy's posts?
      That is not at all what she is saying.

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    kathleenkatposted 12 years ago

    I know a woman who says "if you were raped, and you become pregnant, then the child was meant to be there."
    
    It's not really an uncommon belief, especially with Christians, which make up a rather large portion of the population. I don't see why it's surprising, or even news-worthy, that someone in the GOP believes this.

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       Cody Hodge5posted 12 years agoin reply to this

       While I never begrudge anyone for their religious beliefs, I consider it a fallacy that religious beliefs should somehow translate in political beliefs.

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          kathleenkatposted 12 years agoin reply to this

          Religion is a lifestyle. It is impossible to remove it from the way you live your life, particularly politics, and more particularly because today's American politics are centered around beliefs of "rights" and "wrongs."

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             tammybarnetteposted 12 years agoin reply to this

             kathleenkat, I watched an interview of Santorum last night, as we know he is also very religious, he of course stuck to this same ideal, but when pressed about his own daughter he eventually said of course he would still love her if she made a "different" choice...I think policy sometimes reflects grand ideals and beliefs, but human nature is far less black and white...we should never judge another especially if we have never walked in those shoes...I believe the seperation of Church and State is the fundamental difference between the American culture and the rest of the world, I believe it is imperative that it is upheld, and would be unconstitutional to do any different, our rights as American citizens should reflect the variety of beliefs and cultures that exist within our borders.

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             Credence2posted 12 years agoin reply to this

             But, Kat the way I choose to live my life as compared with another are two different things and that is something the rightwinger fails to acknowledge and respect

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       Sooner28posted 12 years agoin reply to this

       Just because it's not uncommon, it doesn't follow that we should just not talk about it and debate it.
       
       It was very common at one point in American history to find the majority of whites believed in slavery, and also called themselves Christians.  The claim itself must be evaluated, and a "consensual validation" is not a defense.

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