important information on vaccines and diseases...

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  1. SparklingJewel profile image66
    SparklingJewelposted 11 years ago

    this is not just of health concern but social, national and world concern

    think what you like...but check it your own research...just don't ignore the clues and helpful remedies or preventive measures … C3B9A0B23C

  2. thecatgallery profile image60
    thecatgalleryposted 11 years ago

    Vaccines are definitely of health concern. For instance, the drug companies have pushed misleading propaganda that everyone needs to get a flu vaccine. Unfortunately, the preservative used in them is mercury, which is a toxin (like your silver amalgam teeth fillings). And then there's the fact that the flu vaccines are not that effective. And forcing children to have to have so many vaccines at an early age is just dangerous. But the drug companies want to make billions of dollars from their creations, no matter what.
    Have you heard of the latest suggestion for preventing and curing many diseases?
    Blue light
    Vitamin D
    This can even deal with antibiotic-resistant strains of bacteria. It could replace antibiotics in many cases. Good bye drugs.

    1. wilderness profile image95
      wildernessposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Almost everything in the world is a toxin and deadly if taken in sufficient quantities.  And nothing is harmful if not introduced into the body in sufficient quantity to cause harm.

      Yes, the flu vaccine contains mercury - are there any recorded cases at all of  peripheral neuropathy or any of the other symptoms of hydrargyria traceable to that vaccine and the mercury it contains?  Or is declaring that the vaccine contains that frightful element (that we use every day) just another scare tactic?

      1. thecatgallery profile image60
        thecatgalleryposted 11 years agoin reply to this

        Believe what you want in your ignorance.

        1. wilderness profile image95
          wildernessposted 11 years agoin reply to this

          Absolutely I'm ignorant.  That's why I asked for information.  That your reply is simply that I'm ignorant seems to say you don't have any, that the scare tactic is indeed what is in play.  Thank you for the confirmation.

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        jonnycomelatelyposted 11 years agoin reply to this

        A PhD in Microbiology does not automatically mean that her opinions regarding vaccination are totally unbiased.  She might have some kind of religious or philosophical bias which makes her opinions not totally reliable.  I am only saying "might" because how can we tell for sure?

  3. psycheskinner profile image82
    psycheskinnerposted 11 years ago

    At the end of the day if you come in contact with a vector (polio, rubella, measles, tetanus) you will get the disease unless you are vaccinated.  You can depend on being lucky.  Or you can get the shot.  I did not find that to be a hard decision.

    1. wilderness profile image95
      wildernessposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Are you insinuating that sunshine won't prevent any of those?  That's a shocker!

    2. Marisa Wright profile image83
      Marisa Wrightposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Me neither.

      Of course there are some risks with vaccines. There are risks with all medications.  And it may seem reasonable to say, if these diseases are so rare now, why take the risk of vaccination?

      The trouble is, these diseases are not rare everywhere. In many places in Africa, Asia and South America, you'll find countless children blinded by measles, crippled by polio or intellectually disabled by rubella.   And remember - they're only a few hours plane flight away.

      Here in Australia, we're seeing cases of polio in young people who have gone to Asia for a holiday.  They weren't vaccinated as kids and didn't get a shot before their vacation. If it's not caught early enough, polio can ruin their lives.  Not to mention they bring it back to Australia and could infect other people.

      I'm surprised we haven't had an epidemic already, because with so many children unprotected now, it would only take one infected person coming back from an exotic holiday, to decimate the population.

  4. SparklingJewel profile image66
    SparklingJewelposted 11 years ago

    ...if you listen to the entire video, you will find that the most horrific aspect of information is that many of the cancers and diseases we now have came from the cultures (made from animals with various viruses) that were used to  make among other things, the vaccines.

    In other words, the human race is now rife with viruses from animals and the various pathogens grown on the cultures from them, and that once the viruses are "turned on" by various factors, these diseases become apparent in the individual.

    also of great importance is  the misinformation put forth to the unsuspecting public of the difference between vaccines and immunizations

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      jonnycomelatelyposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Is this man Tent your new "god" or your new "Jesus."  Or, maybe he is a new substitute for Amway!

      All the hallmarks of American sensationalism and hype.  Apparently he's a chiropractor-come naturopath..    You are all assuming that he knows what he's talking about, and that his main aim is to cure you of whatever ill is bugging you.   

      If you search for his name on the Internet, all you get is line after line of his stuff, his videos, etc., plugging the anti-immunisation story.  You try to find information about his actual qualifications, and I doubt you find anything!   

      He is making a lot of money out of his lectures and anything other than good, down-to-earth medicine.

      You believe what you like, but I would not waste my time on him.

      1. SparklingJewel profile image66
        SparklingJewelposted 11 years agoin reply to this

        ...hardly...but I know the difference between someone trying to relay not widely accepted, let alone understood information, which, is the main reason I put this out there.
        Unless you are a person that has pursued a personal illness in non-conventional ways, could you comprehend the implications of this information.
        Some are ok with conventional, some are not. That doesn't make either right or is just where they are.
        Our choices in life always make a difference. I choose life, so I choose to find out more, comprehend more, and hence willing to see what I as an individual could make use of to better my life.

    2. Marisa Wright profile image83
      Marisa Wrightposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Personally, I'm glad I got vaccinated.   If I hadn't got vaccinated,then I would've been crippled by polio when I was ten, instead of just having a mild three-day infection.  Thanks to that vaccine, I'm not in an iron lung today.   Sure, I might develop cancer tomorrow - but I've had fifty years of healthy, active life and I think that's a fair exchange.  Assuming it's true - I'm not seeing much concrete evidence of that assertion.

      And don't say, "oh but we don't have polio in this country any more".   Polio is still rife in some countries - and with international travel these days, polio is only one infected person away.

    3. wilderness profile image95
      wildernessposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Can you name even one disease or cancer that has the first recorded case being traced back to a vaccine made from a culture made from a disease infected animal?

      Or is the claim just a claim with nothing to back it?

      1. psycheskinner profile image82
        psycheskinnerposted 11 years agoin reply to this

        I read the literature and know of no such case.  If anything it is eating animals that causes diseases to jump.

        1. wilderness profile image95
          wildernessposted 11 years agoin reply to this

          Can't say I'm surprised.  I thought I might learn something, but will have to be content with the same old, same old.

  5. SmartAndFun profile image95
    SmartAndFunposted 11 years ago

    Well if you have a bad reaction from a vaccine, why not just sit out in the sunshine for awhile? That will cure it. Or better yet, sit out in the sunshine before you get your vaccine. Then you'll have no worries about getting reactions in the first place!

  6. thecatgallery profile image60
    thecatgalleryposted 11 years ago

    I've put together some references that will address many of the questions here with other related material, too, if you want to take the time to read them. The subject of the forum was information on vaccines and diseases, so here they are:

    1. Confirmed! Flu Vaccine INCREASES Risk of Serious Pandemic Flu Illness: … PRNL_art_1
    2. Strong Flu Season Boosts Vaccine Profits, Despite Flu Vaccine having Shockingly Low Effectiveness Rate in US and Europe: … ofits.aspx
    3. The Latest Sneak Attacks in a Coordinated Effort to Eliminate Vaccine Exemptions … _DNL_art_2
    4. Find a Compassionate Doctor to Help You Prevent Vaccine Injuries: … tions.aspx
    5. 10 Reasons Why Flu Shots Are More Dangerous Than a Flu! … erous-flu/
    6. Six Times More Measles Vaccine Adverse Reaction Reports Than Measles Cases in 2011 … UU_mRlVSHk

    1. Blue Light and Sunshine May be the Next Gen Weapons Against Antibiotic-Resistant Infections … n=20130314
    2. Re-discover the Sun's Amazing Health Benefits: … n=20130314

    1. profile image0
      jonnycomelatelyposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Is the climate of business practice amongst the pharmaceutical companies in the United States that bad?  What is it in your country that brings happenings like the Global Financial Crisis, suspect Gulf Wars, unscrupulous dealings with agriculture, etc.?  Is there a general disregard for fairness?  Does that blatant capitalism creep into every walk of life?   Where is that acclaimed "Christian Ethic," which is supposed to guide your lives?

      I would see a more important issue throughout the world as being directed at more equitable food production.  Because with all the efforts towards preventing deaths from communicable diseases, you are going to end up with a huge rise in world population.   Then where is the food going to come from?

      Most, if not all species live and die proportional to the resources available around them.   When resources become depleted, the organism dies to reduce its numbers.   When resources are more plentiful the organism thrives again.   We humans have been so clever as to "upset the applecart."

      Has anyone got answers to this dilemma?

  7. psycheskinner profile image82
    psycheskinnerposted 11 years ago

    That really doesn't seem to address the two main questions 1) what makes you think vaccines are not necessary to avoid epidemics, and 2) what makes you think vaccines causes new diseases.

  8. thecatgallery profile image60
    thecatgalleryposted 11 years ago

    You obviously haven't read the articles. Enough already.

    1. wilderness profile image95
      wildernessposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      OK - #6.  There were only 118 measles cases in the US, thanks to the measles vaccine.

      There were 698 adverse reactions to the vaccine, although what an "adverse reaction" is remains carefully undefined.  There were also 4 deaths attributed to the vaccine and 298 ER visits (results or reasons again carefully left unstated).

      And the point is?  That if we don't continue vaccines the US will become similar to the rest of the world, where there were an estimated 158,000 deaths from measles in 2011?  Where mortality is around 1 in 1,000?  We already know that.

      That vaccines have reduced the world death toll from 873,000 in 1998 to 158,000 in 2011?  We already know that, too.

      Dare we point to the undeniable fact that the measles vaccine has saved millions of lives over the past decade with a cost in lives to be measured in the dozens?  Quite true, but again carefully concealed and glossed over in the linked article.

      Or do we continue to use scare tactics of 4 whole deaths in the US attributed to the vaccine as a reason to go back to what much of the third world sees in thousands of deaths each year? 

      Some will swallow the scare tactics and leave their children at risk as well as increasing risk for the entire country and virtually ensuring the disease will never be eradicated.  Others will look at actual results and dangers of the vaccine and rightly conclude that it is a no brainer to protect every child on the face of the earth - that the expected and historical result of the vaccine is to save the lives of uncountable children while killing a very small handful.

      I know which decision I made and would make again.

  9. SmartAndFun profile image95
    SmartAndFunposted 11 years ago


  10. Uninvited Writer profile image79
    Uninvited Writerposted 11 years ago

    They are currently working on a vaccine for malaria, an illness that kills millions every year. It would be irresponsible to say when it is finally available that people avoid it. The same with all the other diseases that kill millions in Africa.

    I just watched Comedy Relief on Saturday in the UK and can still see the faces of those children whose parent's couldn't afford the tetnus vaccine.

    1. SmartAndFun profile image95
      SmartAndFunposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      I think the people of Africa are getting plenty of sunshine and the babies are mostly breastfed, so why do they need vaccines? LOL.

    2. profile image0
      jonnycomelatelyposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      So, can you see the dilemma?   Either they die from malaria, or they die from starvation.  Or measles. 

      The Three Ms..... Measles, Malaria, Malnutrition.   When I worked in Africa, back in the mid-1970s, in the children's ward there was 50% mortality.


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