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Report Card Time Regarding President Obama's Second Term Thus Far

  1. gmwilliams profile image82
    gmwilliamsposted 4 years ago

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    What grade would YOU give President Obama for the things he has done for this country in his second term so far?

    1. Don W profile image81
      Don Wposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      In fairness I think this should be two questions: what grade would you give the President for the things he has TRIED to do for the country? And what grade would you give Congress for what has actually been DONE for the country? (in terms of the legislature). Although the President steers the legislative agenda, he does not have supreme power (which is a good thing). 

      In answer to those two questions, respectively I'd say B (I like what the President has tried to do, though some of it like Obamacare etc. could have been done better), and F (Congress continues to fail the people they represent).

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      retief2000posted 4 years ago in reply to this

      I would give him an A+.  The criteria on which a grade is based determines the grade. 

      Obama said he wanted to fundamentally change America and in that he has been a screaming success. 

      What little vestiges remained of our Constitutionally protected liberties have been further eroded, to the point of being mere shadows and that erosion passionately defended by Democrats and liberals.  The rule of law has been replaced by the rule of men and exceptions, waivers, special cases command where those things did not before.  Those who produce wealth are now the villains while those who confiscate and redistribute wealth are to be praised, admired and defended.  This barely scratches the surface of Obama's success.

      Wait for Obamacare to accomplish its full goal for the economy.

      If there was a grade higher than A+ I would give it.  Obama has fulfilled his potential and the potential of his party.  What more could one ask.

      1. Cody Hodge5 profile image60
        Cody Hodge5posted 4 years ago in reply to this

        Lol so many talking points...

        What would conservatives think without Fox News?

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          retief2000posted 4 years ago in reply to this

          What would liberals do without the ever present illusions that they alone are moral and intelligent and that conservatives are mindless drones merely regurgitating Fox News.  Not to worry,once the transformation, begun so many years ago by the redistributionist, materialist liberals, is complete it will be illegal to be conservative.  The first indicators of that final stage are evident in recent events.

          I am not being sarcastic when I say Obama deserves an A+, he is the most transformative president this country has had since Abraham Lincoln.

          1. Cody Hodge5 profile image60
            Cody Hodge5posted 4 years ago in reply to this

            I see...

            So you prove your point with an angry and stereotype-filled rant?

  2. AJReissig profile image81
    AJReissigposted 4 years ago

    I think this is a loaded question, as much of this has too do with a person's political beliefs.  I am a libertarian, and believe the government that governs the best is the one that governs the least.  From my perspective, President Obama is a total failure.  Under his watch, we have continued down the path to a nanny state.  When he was first elected, I did have hopes for a few changes.  While I did not vote for him, as a Senator he was highly critical on our debt, our spending and the unpatriotic "Patriot Act".  Unfortunately, as soon as he was elected it because evident that he was only critical of Bush because Bush was of a different political party.  President Obama is worse on debt, worse on spending, and worse on individual liberty when compared to his predecessor.

    This is not to say that Romney would have been a stellar choice for President, as I consider him to be only marginally better on the issues that our current President.  But at least he did know a little about economics.

  3. Mighty Mom profile image90
    Mighty Momposted 4 years ago

    I would give him a C-.
    I continue to defend him against ridiculous, malicious accusations, yes.
    But I feel like Term 2 is very unfocused and off balance.
    Where I personally am disappointed:
    OBAMACARE.
    It's not like he doesn't know how to excite and mobilize people. Obamacare is
    HIS baby. Still no one understands it. The only info we get is smears.
    The right is spending massive dollars to turn public opinion against it.
    Is he just going to roll over and let it deflate?
    roll
    LEGISLATION
    Specific to the second term, I don't see any evidence of any forward motion on any important legislation (although I recognize that legislation is Congress's job, it is under the president's watch. He is the one who gets the legacy -- or not. Not Congress).

    PLUSES
    He gets a few points for exercising restraint (thusfar) in not dragging us into Syria.
    Perhaps this current meeting with Chinese president will bear some fruit.
    He is managing not to get embroiled into the scandal mongering distractions.
    He handled Code Pink heckler very well.
    If he does manage to close Gitmo -- hooray.

    1. Seth Winter profile image80
      Seth Winterposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      So you'd giving the President a passing grade without actually stating a single positive thing besides his ability to keep his hands to himself and not start a war with Syria?

      Does Obama get a bunch of bonus points because he's black? Because a white President would of been giving an F and impeached by now.

  4. Superkev profile image86
    Superkevposted 4 years ago

    Let's see:

    IRS Targeting groups who disagree with him
    Benghazi
    Fast and Furious
    NSA Spying
    Tapped AP Reporters Phones
    Tapped Fox News Reporters phones, emails and relatives
    5 Trillion in new debt
    48 million Americans on food stamps
    Unemployment STILL above 7.5% (worse if you count those who have stopped looking)
    Gas prices $3.70 US avg.
    Taken at least 4 vacations already this year
    Cancelled White House Tours (still had his private concerts though)
    Told his people to make sure the Sequester "hurt as much as possible". (Denied it was his idea)

    Think I'm gonna give him a big, fat F

    1. Mighty Mom profile image90
      Mighty Momposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      Still with the blaming gas prices on the president.
      roll

      1. Superkev profile image86
        Superkevposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        Just like Nancy smile

        “The price of oil is at the doorstep. Four dollars plus per gallon for oil is attributed to two oil men in the White House.”

        -Nancy Pelosi 2008

      2. bBerean profile image60
        bBereanposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        Based on one of the most liberal posters only being able to pick "gas prices" possibly not being Obama's fault, to defend when faced with a baker's dozen list of damning failures, I guess an "F" is pretty obvious.  wink

        1. Mighty Mom profile image90
          Mighty Momposted 4 years ago in reply to this

          Let's be honest. Your F grade would have been an F regardless of
          what he did or didn't do.
          Your rationale has been debated ad nauseum.
          Most of it has been debunked.
          What's to discuss or defend?
          I gave my C- and that's that.

          1. bBerean profile image60
            bBereanposted 4 years ago in reply to this

            Yes, let's be honest.  It would take an "F" performance to get you to budge off an "A" for a politician who is so in line, at least on paper, with your ideology.  Yes, we clearly both have biases, with my default being the F unless he could really perform and yours being A unless he really failed.

          2. Superkev profile image86
            Superkevposted 4 years ago in reply to this

            Arguing with a true Obamabot is like trying to play chess with a rooster. No matter how many legitimate moves you make they just knock all the pieces over, crap on the board and then claim victory.

            1. bBerean profile image60
              bBereanposted 4 years ago in reply to this

              Are you saying they, like their idol, are "cocky"?

            2. Cody Hodge5 profile image60
              Cody Hodge5posted 4 years ago in reply to this

              That would have been witty had it not been plastered all over the Internet already.....

              Now please (without talking points) what else could Obama have done in this political climate?

              1. Superkev profile image86
                Superkevposted 4 years ago in reply to this

                Had a modicum of competence??

            3. Josak profile image61
              Josakposted 4 years ago in reply to this

              So someone who gave Obama a C- is an Obamabot? Riiiiight big_smile

    2. Cody Hodge5 profile image60
      Cody Hodge5posted 4 years ago in reply to this

      Considering that no one from the right was critiquing Bush for doing the exact same things or even worse, I don't think those can be used against him with a straight face.

      That's of course assuming that most of these things are even scandals/the fault of the President

      1. Cody Hodge5 profile image60
        Cody Hodge5posted 4 years ago in reply to this

        And by the way, I'd look up the definition of "tapped" phone lines. I don't think anyone was listening to anything being said.

        1. Superkev profile image86
          Superkevposted 4 years ago in reply to this

          And I think they were. This was not sifting through meta-data, this was targeted and specific in the case of both James Rosen and the AP.

          And as a veteran of 18 years in Law Enforcement, yes, I DO know how these things work.

      2. bBerean profile image60
        bBereanposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        My disagreement aside, are we grading on a curve?

      3. Seth Winter profile image80
        Seth Winterposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        Sorry Cody that's not how this works. I'd like to see you argue to a college professor about how you should get a better grade because the person who sat next to you scored worse on the test. This is Obama's report card, not Bush's.

        1. Cody Hodge5 profile image60
          Cody Hodge5posted 4 years ago in reply to this

          Uh....if I scored better than the person next to me I'd already have the better grade?

          And I can't believe you're going to feign outrage about Obama's "scandals" when Bush did the same thing.

          Again, this is why no one takes the GOP and their voters seriously

          1. Superkev profile image86
            Superkevposted 4 years ago in reply to this

            So because you think Bush was bad, Obama, in your mind, is immune from scandal and criticism, right? We should just all shut up and let Obama do what he wants because Bush was so bad. Or is it because he's 1/2 black?

            Let me tell you something Cody, Obama is not immune, and his house of cards is beginning to crumble in a big way and all the name calling and "what about Bush?" childishness is not going to change that.

            Obama is incompetent, immoral and is woefully out of his depth as POTUS, has been since day one. You can't defend anything I pointed to above so you naturally revert to "What about Bush?"

            That's what you say when you have no reasonable defense for this utter failure of a chief executive.

            1. Mighty Mom profile image90
              Mighty Momposted 4 years ago in reply to this

              Woefully out of his depth at POTUS? Has been since day one?
              Apparently the majority of Americans don't agree with you on that,
              as they voted him in for a second term.

              1. Superkev profile image86
                Superkevposted 4 years ago in reply to this

                That just shows that a slim majority of Americans are ill informed, low-information voters. He won by what? 3%? Hardly a Reaganesque landslide.

                In a nation full of children it's hard to beat Santa Claus.

                But, by all means, please, let me hear the pro 7.6% unemployment argument. Or tell me how great it is that 48 million Americans are on food stamps, please, tell me why that;s such a great accomplishment for 'Ol Barry.

                1. Cody Hodge5 profile image60
                  Cody Hodge5posted 4 years ago in reply to this

                  Why are people unemployed?

                  Probably because businesses won't hire them.....

                  Why are people on food stamps?

                  The ones with jobs don't get paid enough to support their families without them...

                  (I should put those on Popsicle sticks)

                  1. Superkev profile image86
                    Superkevposted 4 years ago in reply to this

                    That's not the question Cody.

                    Why are so many STILL unemployed?

                    Why are so many MORE now on food stamps?

                    Those are the questions that fall right in Obama's lap.

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                  2. bBerean profile image60
                    bBereanposted 4 years ago in reply to this

                    That's not where you got them?

                2. Mighty Mom profile image90
                  Mighty Momposted 4 years ago in reply to this

                  You really should get some of your own lines.
                  Don't you realize that Rush Limbaugh is a comedian?

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                    Brenda Durhamposted 4 years ago in reply to this

                    Do you realize that Marla Gibbs isn't?
                    At least not a good one.  Her bias and hatred overshadows any talent she formerly exhibited.

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                Brenda Durhamposted 4 years ago in reply to this

                We're not even sure the majority voted for him.
                But whatever.   Just because the majority does something doesn't mean it's the correct thing to do.

                Obama gets an H.
                Yep.  Two points below an F, even.
                H is for horrible.
                I'm sure he's proud of it.
                He earned it.

                1. Cody Hodge5 profile image60
                  Cody Hodge5posted 4 years ago in reply to this

                  That's funny because I can guarantee you that the majority never voted for Bush either.....

                  1. Mighty Mom profile image90
                    Mighty Momposted 4 years ago in reply to this

                    Hell. We're not even sure he's American, are we?
                    lol

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                Lie Detectorposted 4 years ago in reply to this

                A majority of Americans did not vote for him!

                A majority of those Americans who voted voted for him.

                1. Josak profile image61
                  Josakposted 4 years ago in reply to this

                  Yup and if everyone had voted demographically he would have won by even more since it's ethnic minorities and the young who vote least and they are strong democratic bases.

                2. Zelkiiro profile image86
                  Zelkiiroposted 4 years ago in reply to this

                  And if the Conservatives hadn't blocked minorities, women, and the elderly from voting in several states, he would have won by a lot more.

                  So much for my vote for Batman.

                  1. Mighty Mom profile image90
                    Mighty Momposted 4 years ago in reply to this

                    How many people had to stand in line for 8 hours to vote for Romney?
                    Zero.

            2. Cody Hodge5 profile image60
              Cody Hodge5posted 4 years ago in reply to this

              Well let me tell you brother!

              There are so many ways that most conservatives assertions about Obama have been proven wrong, taken out of context or just talking points that conservatives can't get out of their system.

              The reason why I compare Obama's scandals to what Bush did is to prove that if it wasn't a scandal when it happened under the watch of Bush, it isn't a scandal under Obama.

              You can't have it both ways.

              1. Superkev profile image86
                Superkevposted 4 years ago in reply to this

                So, tell me, how has the IRS scandal been debunked or taken out of context?

                Or fast and Furious

                Or the AP wiretaps

                Or the James Rosen wire taps

                Or Benghazi

                Go ahead, how are any of those 'out of context'? LOL

                He's going down Cody, nothing can stop that now, when a Special Prosecutor is named that will be all over except for the crying.

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                  Brenda Durhamposted 4 years ago in reply to this

                  If common sense, patriotism, and justice prevails, yes indeed he will go down.
                  Your comment phrases are newly refreshing compared to the liberals' way of talking.
                  All over except for the crying..........well, it would be refreshing to see Holder or Obama or any of them in that group...actually show some emotion besides revenge, anger, hatred, and false compassion.   'Twould be good for their souls.  But especially good for this Country.

                2. Seth Winter profile image80
                  Seth Winterposted 4 years ago in reply to this

                  Well I've heard various liberals claim that Fast and Furious was started under Bush. (Program Started in 09)

                3. Cody Hodge5 profile image60
                  Cody Hodge5posted 4 years ago in reply to this

                  Benghazi? You mean an embassy attack.....how many of those happened under Bush, Clinton, heck any other president?

                  The IRS scandal......ummm, you do know that liberal groups faced the same "scrutiny" under George Bush right? Where was Darrell McCarthy then?

                  As for the wiretapping? There is a new shield law being drafted by Congress to make sure something like this never happens again when a journalist has sensitive information. Also, I'll point to when Dubya threw a guy in jail for not revealing his sources.

                  So yea....keep trying...

                  1. Superkev profile image86
                    Superkevposted 4 years ago in reply to this

                    Really? And yet not one congressional hearing on the matter even when Democrats controlled both houses of congress and the White House?

                    Surely you have some proof of this, yes?

                  2. Superkev profile image86
                    Superkevposted 4 years ago in reply to this

                    And PS- No other attack resulted in the death of our ambassador or our people being abandoned by the sitting president to die.

                    I guess Obama needed to be rested before he went to hob-nob with the rich and famous in Las Vegas, gotta have priorities you know?

                4. Cody Hodge5 profile image60
                  Cody Hodge5posted 4 years ago in reply to this

                  Lol he's going down...

                  As one of the better presidents of the era

                  1. Superkev profile image86
                    Superkevposted 4 years ago in reply to this

                    We will see if you are still so confident after a Special Prosecutor is named.

                    If Obama did nothing else his whole term he would still go down as one of the most incompetent presidents in history.

    3. Quilligrapher profile image91
      Quilligrapherposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      Hi there, Superkev. You have chosen to go way beyond the scope of the OP statement. Most of your claims pre-date President Obama’s current term. However, if Ms. Williams will excuse me, I will attempt to address some of your mis-statements.

      Sadly, you have been misinformed big time. No evidence has surfaced to indicate DOJ has tapped the phones of either AP or Fox News personnel. Even House Speaker John Boehner misrepresented the truth when he said, “You’ve got the Justice Department tapping the phones of those in the media.” Unfortunately, both you and he are wrong. {1} The lesson is clear: reliable sources are crucial to knowing what is happening in Washington.

      Superkev wrote:
      “Gas prices $3.70 US avg.”

      Another example of ill-informed regurgitated false talking points. During the Bush II years, the average price of gasoline nearly tripled to a peak of $4.09 in July 2008. After President Bush left office, gasoline prices fell and they have never reached the $4.09 price level again. {2}

      Superkev wrote:
      “48 million Americans on food stamps.”

      A minimal amount of research reveals the number of SNAP recipients in America (15.2%) as of February 2013 is roughly the same percentage as American workers affected by unemployment or underemployment (14.3 percent) according to the US Department of Labor’s Bureau of Labor Statistics U-6 Measure. In addition, SNAP contributes to local economies. “Based on USDA research, it is estimated that each one dollar in federally funded SNAP benefits generates $1.79 in economic activity.” {3} I am sure there are many who would prefer to see the unemployed eat cake. As jobs continue to grow, the need for food stamps will decline. “Of those receiving unemployment insurance benefits, many are also in anti-poverty programs,” observes realclearpolicy.com. {4}

      Superkev wrote:
      “Unemployment STILL above 7.5%.”

      In response to this criticism, I say, “Thank you, Mr. President.” The unemployment rate was 7.6 % when President Obama entered the oval office in Jan 2009. Some folks find it hard to admit some things have actually improved under this administration. {5} Furthermore, the U-6 rate today is 13.8%. In January 2009 it was 14.2%. {6} Thank you again, Mr. President.

      Now, when it comes to grading the first four months of President Obama’s second term, here are a few Obama “test scores” you have chosen to ignore:

      The Dow Jones Industrial Average rose from 7,949 to 15,248 between Jan 20, 2009 and today’s closing. Therefore, investors’ equity and pension holdings, both in the private and the public sectors, have appreciated nearly 92% during the years of President Obama’s administration. The anemic economy inherited from President Bush II is healing under the current administration. Anyone who cannot see this surely needs to expand his or her news sources.

      In addition, President Obama continues to confront North Korea with isolation and reprisals because of their nuclear weapons and missile technology programs. The president rightly demands they take verifiable steps toward denuclearization or face increasing isolation and costs from the United States and the international community. This is called diplomacy. It is an art form seldom seen in this country between 2001 to 2008.

      I hope that you noticed, Kev, that the President signed the extension of the Violence Against Women Act after it passed the House with unanimous support from Democratic representatives.

      Wait, there is more. Between February 22 and May 13, 2013, President Obama has held meeting in the White House with… 
      Prime Minister Shinzo Abe of Japan,
      Prime Minister Lee Hsein Loong of Singapore,
      United Nation's Secretary General Ban Ki-moon,
      Crown Prince Mohammad Bin Zyed of the UAE,
      Prime Minister Abe of Japan (twice),
      Jordan's King Abdullah II,
      Park Seunhye of the Republic of Korea, and
      Prime Minister David Cameron of the United Kingdom.

      Leaving the comfort zone of the Oval Office, President Obama has traveled to Israel to meet with President Shimon Peres and Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. The following day he met with Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas and, later in the day spoke at the Jerusalem International Convention Center. He met the next day with King Abdullah II of Jordan.

      In the same short time span, President Obama has been to Mexico to confer with President Enrique Pena Nieto and to Costa Rica to huddle with President Chinchilla.

      Therefore, Kev, I will give President Obama a C+. It would have been a B- had he been able to get past the GOP stonewalling in the Congress.

      My thanks to you for sharing with us. I have learned a lot.
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      {1} http://www.bizjournals.com/bizjournals/ … versy.html
      {2}http://data.bls.gov/cgi-bin/surveymost?ap  sellect “Gasoline, Unleaded Regular”
      {3} http://frac.org/reports-and-resources/s … tion-data/
      {4} http://www.realclearpolicy.com/blog/201 … s_470.html
      {5} http://www.davemanuel.com/historical-un … states.php
      {6} http://portalseven.com/employment/unemp … ate_u6.jsp

      1. gmwilliams profile image82
        gmwilliamsposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        Go ahead Quilligrapher, I always anticipate and welcome your gentlemanly wisdom on the forums.

        1. Quilligrapher profile image91
          Quilligrapherposted 4 years ago in reply to this

          Thank you, Ms. Williams.
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        retief2000posted 4 years ago in reply to this

        You are a thorough fellow - research is undervalued.  I am heartened that such skills are still alive and well.

        1. Quilligrapher profile image91
          Quilligrapherposted 4 years ago in reply to this

          I sincerely appreciate your kind words.
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  5. Mighty Mom profile image90
    Mighty Momposted 4 years ago

    Interesting historical perspective of unemployment rates by year.
    Last time unemployment was over 9 percent was under ... Reagan.

    http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNU04000 … =all_years

    1. Superkev profile image86
      Superkevposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      So those months of +10% under Obama don't count somehow??

      How does that work? You just don't want it to be true?

      1. Mighty Mom profile image90
        Mighty Momposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        Of COURSE they count.
        But what did you expect? Obama to wave his magic wand (same one he
        apparently has to lower gas prices) and *poof* unemployment's back down to 5%?

        Did you somehow miss the GREAT RECESSION? Whether conservatives
        like to admit it or not, was set up under Bush and hit in 2008.

        Why is unemployment still as high as it is?
        I dunno.
        Good question to ask John Boehner, tho.

        1. Superkev profile image86
          Superkevposted 4 years ago in reply to this

          Remember when Obama promised MILLIONS of Green Energy Jobs and Nancy Pelosi said that passing Obama care would result in 400,000 jobs "almost immediately"?

          Good times

  6. innersmiff profile image71
    innersmiffposted 4 years ago

    How come all Presidents are worse than the one before him?

    Let's see:
    More wars of aggression
    Continued police-state-ism
    Continued economic folly
    Continuation of the war on drugs
    More government intervention in healthcare and education, inevitably making them worse and more expensive.

    Does an F do it justice?

    1. profile image62
      retief2000posted 4 years ago in reply to this

      If his goal is to accomplish all those things you take issue with than he has been rather successful.  If success at achieving one's goals is the measure I maintain he deserves an A+.  He said he would transform America and he is succeeding brilliantly in its transformation.

  7. AJReissig profile image81
    AJReissigposted 4 years ago

    Let's face it, it has been a long time since we had a mediocre President, and a very long time sine we had a great one.  And if you looking for a stellar one... well, don't bother looking at any of the ones from the 20th century.
    But seriously, look at the badgering back and forth between 2 parties that are more similar than different.  The Repubs are the party of big government and big oil. The dems are the party of welfare state economics and lawyers. Neither care about individual liberty.  This whole discussion is nothing but mudslinging at the two dirtiest pigs on the farm.

 
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