Newtown (Sandy Hook Shootings)
Who is using up all the pearl in knitting (???)
Do you mean PURL stitching?
How are you Jack? It is nice to see ya.
“In many instances,” you say, “a person wielding a knife can kill much more efficiently than someone with an AR-15.” In how many instances, Jack? In one of a hundred, one in a thousand, one in a million? I have no idea and I suspect you have no idea either. Where will I find the data that establishes your claim “in many instances” is in any way factual?
To kill with a knife, one has to get up close to the victim. How many children can you kill with a knife, Jack, while standing in the doorway of a classroom or while aiming your knife down a hallway?
Better still, Jack, a navy seal trains himself for years before he can claim to be much more efficient with a blade then with an AR-15. In fact, if your claim was even close to the truth and seal teams with knives were more efficient, then they would not have to carry guns at all.
I know I can kill dozens of people in a minute or less from the opposite end of a school cafeteria using an AR-15 equipped with a 100 round magazine. Do you think you can do the same with a knife, Jack? Perhaps it is you who have “let your ignorance and your bias do your posting for you.”
When I leave my home, I deadbolt all my exterior doors. Do I expect this will prevent all intruders from getting in? Of course not! However, I do expect to slow them down a bit, make it a tad more difficult, and even to discourage those lacking the necessary skills or motivation. As a result, I expect to reduce, not eliminate, the number of possible intruders.
While every American has the right to own a gun if he wants one, every American also has the right to know that this is one right that is being exercised by stable, law-abiding, citizens.
Reasonable background checks are a step in that direction. No one is deprived from buying a gun except those found to be a risk to themselves or others. Background checks do not take anyone’s guns away but they do make it more difficult and more complicated for some, perhaps not all, buyers who are a risk to themselves or others.
I long for peace in this country, Jack, a peace that does not require every citizen to carry a gun.
Are you really that afraid you wouldn't pass the background check?
Hi again, Jack.
Your post goes from “about anyone being ‘more efficient’ with a knife. I certainly didn’t say anything along those lines” to “my answer said ‘in some circumstances...’” {1}
Oh, yes you surely did, Jack. You said, “In many instances a person wielding a knife can kill much more efficiently than someone with an AR-15.” {2} Would you like to revisit your own words?I was hoping to learn for you. Instead, you provide absolutely no data to support a ludicrous claim. All you said was, “If you’re looking for a quantitative answer then you don’t really understand English very well.” Actually, I understand English well enough to know that the only time a knife is more efficient than an AR-15, according to you, is when the gun jams. However, gun experts agree the AR-15 sustained rate of fire is 12-15 rounds a minute and the semiautomatic rate is 45 rounds a minute considering both jams and reloading. {3}
In addition, this data confirms I was fairly accurate when I said, “I know I can kill dozens of people in a minute or less from the opposite end of a school cafeteria using an AR-15.” I rely on quantitative answers, Jack. They are the difference between knowing something and thinking I know something.
When comparing an AR-15 to the use of a knife, you opine, “A gun has a number of advantages that make it a superior weapon in some kinds of situations. A knife has a number of advantages that make it a superior weapon in some kinds of situations.” Since the Sandy Hook incident is the topic of discussion, we are obviously talking about a situation where a gun was the superior weapon. Thank you for confirming that. It clearly establishes that your claim “a knife can kill much more efficiently” is an unnecessary distraction that begged for a quantitative citation.
The fact that you and I have different opinions about guns and their place in society does mean that we disagree on all issues. Looking at a topic from two different perspective does not mean one is right and the other is wrong. Nor do different viewpoints mean we can not have a civil and intellegent conversation. To ask, “Have you always had this ethical problem with making up stuff from thin air or have you found it to be a recent development?” or to insult the OP with “Don't let your ignorance and your bias do your posting for you” are personal attacks that are neither civil or intellegent. The statement, “this is what passes as ‘common sense’ among quill and his ilk” says more about you then it does about me.
I thank you, Jack, for sharing you thoughts with me and my “ilk.” Once again, I have learn much from you.
{1} http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/113684? … ost2419885
{2} http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/113684#post2419759
{3} http://wredlich.com/ny/2012/07/gun-cont … olishness/Hi Uncle.
I list links to all my sources in my endnotes.Hi again, Uncle.
Sadly, you have made a false assumption.
People that do not differentiate between real facts and fiction usually rely on assumptions in order to arrive at conclusions they can live with. The problem is that assumptions can easily move any conclusions away from a logical, well informed position.
Apparently, it is easier for you to make a false assumption than to look at the endnotes in my posts. As a result, the assumption has moved the conclusion away from a logical, well informed position. All you need to do is read my endnotes and reach a conclusion based upon real facts and not on false assumptions.Hello Lie Detector. Nice of you to join in.
I thank you for describing my source as a “moron.”
I suggest that you go to the NRA Institute of Legislative Action (NRA-ILA) web site…
http://www.nraila.org/news-issues/fact- … rview.aspx
...where you will find this definition:
“Semi-automatics fire only one shot when the trigger is pulled—like revolvers, bolt-actions, lever-actions, pump-actions, double-barrels and all other types of firearms except fully-automatics (machine guns).”
It amazes me how many folks will jump on a false assumption rather than checking their facts.
You will find this definition at Slate.com:
“Almost all guns in the United States today, including pistols, rifles, and handguns, are semi-automatic. A semi-automatic firearm fires a single bullet each time the trigger is pulled.”
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_ … apons.html
I could give you a half-dozen more links but it would be better if you do your own research.
Thank you again, Lie Detector, for grading my source. I disagree with your “moron” evaluation but I understand where it comes from. Which sources did you check before you labeled my source a “moron?”
Be well. We all have so much to learn from each other.
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