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Ecuador to Educated the American Public

  1. ThompsonPen profile image78
    ThompsonPenposted 4 years ago

    There were rumors that Snowden was going to Ecuador, so the US threatened to end economic aid if they allowed him to seek sanctuary there. Their president responded by waiving the aid benefits and instead offered what they were worth to the US to put toward human rights education.

  2. danfranch profile image60
    danfranchposted 4 years ago

    Was it wrong? As far as I know, the USA has places like Guantanamo where all human rights are neglected.

  3. Mighty Mom profile image84
    Mighty Momposted 4 years ago

    Bolivia, Venezuela and Nicaragua are the three SA countries I've heard that have officially offered Snowden asylum.

    I would love to hear from those here on HP who pronounce Obama to be socialist, communist and/or other extremely left-leaning.
    And if he is that, why is it that these leftist countries in SA are not allied with Obama's policies?
    They seem to be denouncing him. Defying the US by refusing to extradite Snowden but hailing him as a hero.

    How do we explain this seeming dichotomy?

    1. Disappearinghead profile image77
      Disappearingheadposted 4 years agoin reply to this

      I guess Obama is nowhere near as left as the Tea Party like to pretend. In reality, he's probably right of centre compared to genuine left wing governments.

    2. Reality Bytes profile image81
      Reality Bytesposted 4 years agoin reply to this

      Nope, Obama is just as much a fascist as the last guy.

      1. Quilligrapher profile image84
        Quilligrapherposted 4 years agoin reply to this

        "The term Fascism was first used of the totalitarian right-wing nationalist regime of Mussolini in Italy (1922–43), and the regimes of the Nazis in Germany and Franco in Spain were also fascist. Fascism tends to include a belief in the supremacy of one national or ethnic group, a contempt for democracy, an insistence on obedience to a powerful leader, and a strong demagogic approach." {1}

        “Fascism is referred to as an ideology with numerous characteristics, the most common being fervent nationalism, virtually unlimited central authority, militarism, and state control of production…those traits are almost universally present in fascist run societies.” {2}

        “A political philosophy, movement, or regime… that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition.” {3}

        I do not see how either President Bush or President Obama qualifies completely as a facist using these definitions. However, I could just modify and distort these definitions until they fit both of them. 
        http://s2.hubimg.com/u/6919429.jpg
        {1} http://oxforddictionaries.com/us/defini … sh/fascism
        {2}
        http://dollarvigilante.com/blog/2011/12 … mmies.html
        {3}
        http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fascism

        1. Reality Bytes profile image81
          Reality Bytesposted 4 years agoin reply to this

          “A political philosophy, movement, or regime".....

          We must protect national security at all costs.  Even if murdering American citizens is necessary.

          "centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation"....

          We must control everything through the commerce clause, the EPA, among various other alphabet agencies. We will also pass mammoth security laws.  Some of which is to remain state secret. Laws that ensures that everything that is done is legal.  If anyone divulges the content of these security measures, they will be charged with aiding the enemy.  Of course, the enemy seems to be the citizens of their nation!

          "forcible suppression of opposition"....

          If you mention the Constitution, civil rights, or support particular politicians, you are a potential domestic threat.  You can be held indefinitely, with no charges , using secret laws, secret evidence, and secret justice systems.

          “Fascism is referred to as an ideology with numerous characteristics, the most common being fervent nationalism, virtually unlimited central authority, militarism, and state control of production…those traits are almost universally present in fascist run societies.”

          This sounds like the right definition to me!   Instead of state controlled production, we have corporate controlled government.  Lets also implement a military organization whose sole purpose is targeting its own citizens.  We will use fear in order to trick the people into believing it is all being done for their protection.

          Just for fun, lets bring in foreign troops to suppress any dissent in the homeland!  We can practice joint operations on our own soil to practice invasion maneuvers.  Yeah, we are free?

    3. danfranch profile image60
      danfranchposted 4 years agoin reply to this

      Just to be clear: they are  not all  'SA' countries. Nicaragua is part of Central America, no South América. And I'm still thinking that te main  USA problem is inside. No outside. Just look at the  weekly gun shooting in schools.

 
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