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Do you believe that the issue of police brutality and use of excessive

  1. gmwilliams profile image83
    gmwilliamsposted 2 years ago

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    police force is an exaggeration, even a form of self defense against the more contentious elements of American society or do you contend that there IS police brutality, especially relating to those designated as minorities and/or the disadvantaged and/or disenfranchised?

    1. IslandBites profile image86
      IslandBitesposted 2 years ago in reply to this

      There IS police brutality, especially relating to those designated as minorities and/or the disadvantaged and/or disenfranchised.

  2. wilderness profile image94
    wildernessposted 2 years ago

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    If this is what you want for your neighborhood, then yes, cops often use excessive force in stopping such actions.

    1. rhamson profile image78
      rhamsonposted 2 years ago in reply to this

      This is the result of police harassment, no jobs, crooked politicians, greedy ignorance of the economic health of its citizenry and frustration that has been building since the beginning of the race riots of 1968. See if you can still ignore this America.

      1. wilderness profile image94
        wildernessposted 2 years ago in reply to this

        Or just a complete lack of moral structure being instilled into the thugs doing it.  And yes, America will ignore it: recognizing that it is only a small minority that are stupid enough to destroy their neighborhood it will be re-built.  With many tears, but only from those that actually build rather than mindlessly destroy.

        So the answer is to let it go; let them burn the world around us rather than allow our hired protectors to use the only language the rioters understand?

        1. rhamson profile image78
          rhamsonposted 2 years ago in reply to this

          With your non action attitude they have nothing to lose. Your belief in exporting the jobs gives them little hope of attaining anything above a welfare check. It is funny how you don't get this. By taking away their jobs you have taken away their freedom and once again enslaved them. It is very very simple.

          1. wilderness profile image94
            wildernessposted 2 years ago in reply to this

            But I didn't take away their jobs - you (meaning liberal policies) did.  By pricing their labor out of the market.

            None of which has anything to do with the question of "excessive violence" by cops in preventing destruction.  I assume your answer to to slap their wrist and let them go because the evil capitalists are being mean to them?

            1. rhamson profile image78
              rhamsonposted 2 years ago in reply to this

              "But I didn't take away their jobs - you (meaning liberal policies) did.  By pricing their labor out of the market."

              Really! Wasn't it you that agreed with the policy of Obamas acceptance and fast tracking the TPP? Does that make you a liberal? You have convenient truths my friend. I on the other hand am dead set against it and would like to see both the TPP not passed and rescinding NAFTA.
              Your conservative views on trade agreements coincides with Obamas and by supporting them you are indeed taking away jobs these people you so detest could fill.

              1. wilderness profile image94
                wildernessposted 2 years ago in reply to this

                Yep, it was me, at least in the overall idea that the world has shrunk and to be competitive means being competitive in the world market. 

                And who was it applauding unions that caused the TPP to have such an effect?  That supports raising American wages (by law whenever possible) to such levels that our workers cannot possibly compete in the world market even after factoring in tremendous shipping costs?  (I just read that American companies will now ship chickens to China where they will be processed and shipped back). 

                But what does any of that have to do with excessive police force?  Or will you now claim that excessively high minimum wages results in riots by those earning it?

                1. rhamson profile image78
                  rhamsonposted 2 years ago in reply to this

                  I won't argue your point of competing in a global market. You are totally right that the wages paid American workers reflects in competitive pricing of export items. To compete those wages have been reduced or in many cases completely eliminated. Nike has shipped the last of its manufacturing overseas. Last year, a third of Nike’s remaining 13,922 American production workers were laid off. Most of Nike’s products are made by 990,000 workers in low-wage countries.  As wages have risen in China, Nike has switched most of its production to Vietnam where wages are less than 60 cents per hour. Almost 340,000 workers cut and assemble Nike products there. New Balance is one of the only shoe and apparel manufacturers to use American labor almost exclusively. They choose to compete with Nike as a wage opportunity for their employees. These employees in turn support the American economy buy spending their wages in our economy.

                  Your support for a global economy supports sweatshop conditions in foreign labor pools while having corporate executives pocket the difference. Nike and New Balance shoes are very competitive price rise and the quality is comparable. Paying a worker 60 cents an hour profits the top and paying an American worker more profits both the worker and the corporate entity. The only difference is the greed by which they carry out their interests. You my friend are in the greed camp.

                  1. wilderness profile image94
                    wildernessposted 2 years ago in reply to this

                    Didn't see this for probably too long.  But...

                    "You my friend are in the greed camp."

                    Well, one of us is.  One of us supports union wages, leading irrevocably to not only inflation but a two tier class of wage earners.  With inflation leading to higher prices, fewer exports and more imports.  And those benefiting the most?  The union fat cats at the top - the union political structure that contributes nothing of value.  Followed by the general union membership (when they can find work at inflated labor prices), and with the non-union members of the country footing the bill for it all.  Yes, it's called greed.

  3. Jason Marovich profile image87
    Jason Marovichposted 2 years ago

    Law and order are a large part of the American philosophy.  I'm of the opinion that excessive force in law enforcement is limited but it's limited for the most part to urban areas high in crime and violence.

    What happened in Baltimore reminds me of how police in large cities used to use excessive force and the threat of it to intimidate criminals and criminal organizations.

    This is regression.

    Giving a man a rough ride in a paddy wagon, a man who did nothing illegal, is brutality.  There's no place for it in law and order and that's why those who committed the crime will now stand trial.

    All human beings, regardless of race, culture or residency, regardless of what you think they might be up to, must not be mistreated without just cause (i.e. self-defense) or we risk violating the beliefs of those that founded our country.

    1. wilderness profile image94
      wildernessposted 2 years ago in reply to this

      I would add that the police is not the jury; that rough ride in a paddy wagon is normally inexcusable because, if nothing else, the rider has not been convicted of any crime.

  4. types of Diabetes profile image61
    types of Diabetesposted 2 years ago

    Yes Of course, my son, my husband, they all experienced it, and you better do not have a nice car as a black man, they assume they are drug dealers. My husband work hard as a Nurse. My son sell real estate, they are followed and stop all the time, and they suspect it is because of their cars.

  5. shivam Pal profile image1
    shivam Palposted 2 years ago

    All Human beings have own nature (mentality). According to his mentality they work, but when they come into a government job like an arms job than government faith only there associate, and associates faith their leadership (Senior). If they give instruction, then associate follow his order without thinking "is it right or wrong?". That's why many accidents occur in society.

  6. aware profile image71
    awareposted 2 years ago

    When the police stop you.  Its yes sir. No sir.you dont argue, you dont fight.you  dont resist, or run. You comply . Thats the rule. Teach your kids that. And this heavy handed policing will  go away.cops are not judges.. and as far jobs. Dont wait for a job to fall into your lap. Create your own.if there are no jobs in your city. Its time to move. Think peope. Stop blaming.

    1. rhamson profile image78
      rhamsonposted 2 years ago in reply to this

      Where are you from? Really!

  7. aware profile image71
    awareposted 2 years ago

    America. I learned that lesson the hard way. By being thrown onto the hood of a cop car.face first.as a teen. Where you from

  8. aware profile image71
    awareposted 2 years ago

    Im in fla now in construction. Work is good here again.but when houseing fell i had  create jobs for myself.

 
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