It KEEPS On Coming......& COMING

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  1. gmwilliams profile image83
    gmwilliamsposted 8 years ago

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    According to MSN & CBS news reports on July 8th, 2016, Florida Congressperson Corrine Brown, 69,  a  Democratic Representative from Florida who has served in Congress since 1993, & Elias Simmons, 50,  her Chief of Staff have been charge with using the political position to solicit over $800K in donations to a supposed charity fund which was discovered later to be a personal slush fund.  Congressperson Brown pleaded not guilty in the fraud case.  They have been indicted on 24-counts of fraud. & other violations including obstruction of justice & conspiracy.  Nancy Pelosi indicated that she was saddened by this, citing that the Congressperson was exemplary.  If convicted on all 24 charges, Brown could face 357 years in prison while Simmons could face 355 years in prison.  Well, they can use the Hillary defense(sarcasm).  Your thoughts on this?

    1. Credence2 profile image80
      Credence2posted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Arrest her and prosecute her for fraud, if the case is as you state.

      1. gmwilliams profile image83
        gmwilliamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        It's amazing, it keeps coming like a political tsunami.  When will it stop!  Well, I am going to sit back & make some hot dogs & buttered popcorn.   Can't wait to see what happens next!   Politics is.....LIKE A SOAP OPERA, in fact, it is MORE FUN, INTRIGUING than a SOAP OPERA........
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        Wow, the political arena.................

        First it was Hillary, NOW THIS...........If all else fails, Brown can always plead the Hillary defense(coughs, coughs)
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        1. Credence2 profile image80
          Credence2posted 8 years agoin reply to this

          While secy Clinton is not my ideal choice, she has been absolved of wrong doing by the proper authorities. My issue is solely with this Congressperson Brown and her behavior

          1. wilderness profile image95
            wildernessposted 8 years agoin reply to this

            No she hasn't - she has most definitely been found to disobey the law about classified information on her private server.

            It was just found that there was insufficient evidence to prove either intent or gross negligence beyond a reasonable doubt.  Money and power talks just as it did for OJ.

            It continues to amaze me that people post that she is innocent of doing anything wrong when the FBI very plainly stated that she DID do something wrong.  And continued to do so by lying and hiding her wrongdoing.

            1. gmwilliams profile image83
              gmwilliamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

              +1,000,000,000,000,000,000!!!

            2. Credence2 profile image80
              Credence2posted 8 years agoin reply to this

              Insuffient evidence is still just that. If you want to persecute her, than get sufficient evidence. otherwise, you have no case.

              1. wilderness profile image95
                wildernessposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                No case...case for what?  Criminal prosecution?  Or for showing her for someone that doesn't bother to follow the rules other people are forced to use?  For showing her as someone that doesn't care about security? 

                Now I understand that the liberal mind will take the information that she violated the law, and lied about it multiple times, as proof of her innocence, but that doesn't make it so.  That case (innocence) is certainly not proven!

                1. Credence2 profile image80
                  Credence2posted 8 years agoin reply to this

                  And the conservative mind is rife hypocrisy and double standards. When moral and ethical questions surrounded  Trump, you are more than willing to accommodate. You people still have a burr in your saddle over O.J? If the rightwinger is anything, they are both stubborn and tenacious. You really are quite partisan, despite the fact that you say otherwise.

                  who are you to determine what levels the offenses rise to, outside of your world renown and vaunted opinion?

                  1. wilderness profile image95
                    wildernessposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                    Trump, OJ, "rightwinger", partisanship - what do any of these have to do with Clinton illegally using a private server to put classified documents on?  Or repeatedly lying about it?

                    Be careful, Credence, your bias is showing badly.  You may be quite happy to give Clinton a "bye" on her illegal activities but neither the "rightwinger" nor the unbiased is willing to do so.

                  2. GA Anderson profile image83
                    GA Andersonposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                    Hey Cred, I stumbled across this in my inbox.  It seems to offer some weight to Wilderness' perspective;
                    Comey’s FBI Helped Convict Navy Reservist

                    Beyond criticism of the source, the details of the point are damning.

                    - Comey, as Federal Prosecutor, prosecuted a similar case in 2015,  “unauthorized removal and retention of classified materials,”  against an enlisted man - guy admitted guilt



                    Earlier in his career, relative to a question about his prosecution of Martha Stewart, (prior to the enlisted man case); ...then U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of New York, said that if Stewart were Jane Doe she would have been prosecuted. “I thought of my hesitation about the case due to someone being rich and famous, and how it shouldn’t be that way,” Comey said. “I decided we had to do it.”

                    One year ago he prosecutes an enlisted man for similar transgressions to what he said Hillary did.

                    Hmm...

                    GA

                2. Don W profile image81
                  Don Wposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                  The onus is not on Hilary Clinton, or any person, to prove their innocence.

                  The presumption of innocence until proven guilty is implied by the Fith Amendment, is a legal right in many states, and is enshrined in Article 11 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights which was ratified by the US in 1992.

                  Hilary Clinton has neither been charged with, nor convicted of, a crime. So regardless of whether you believe she has a moral case to answer, by any legal standard, she is innocent.

                  1. wilderness profile image95
                    wildernessposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                    Close; she is not guilty.  She has not been proven guilty in a court of law, but neither has 12 jurors found her innocent - not guilty is the proper term.

                    But that refers to not guilty of the crime of intentionally and grossly negligent handling of classified documents beyond a reasonable doubt.  There is very little doubt that a jury would find her guilty of putting classified documents onto a private server in violation of the law - the FBI report has made that abundantly clear.  She is guilty of repeatedly lying about what she did.  She is guilty of removing some of those classified documents.  And whether she did so in sufficient numbers to warrant job repercussions remains to be seen.

                    Was OJ guilty of murder?

    2. rhamson profile image70
      rhamsonposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      This is why we need to clean house and enact term limits. To sit by and just re-elect these scum bags is our fault. I don't care what persuasion of politics you adhere to.

  2. Kathryn L Hill profile image80
    Kathryn L Hillposted 8 years ago

    Its a REAL reality show!

  3. willmcwryter profile image54
    willmcwryterposted 8 years ago

    wow lady your forum title sounds like a p0rn0.  keep it clean why doncha and those pictures ain't helping.

    1. gmwilliams profile image83
      gmwilliamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      STOP THAT NOW, SHAME ON YOU!!!
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      1. Dean Traylor profile image97
        Dean Traylorposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        Gmwilliams, not to get off topic but that obnoxious turd that made that last response has been trolling a lot lately. I guess he's mad because nobody wants to read his crappy, sophomoric poems about nuggets.

        1. willmcwryter profile image54
          willmcwryterposted 8 years agoin reply to this

          wow everybody has the rite to express there concerns on the forum so why don't you go <snipped>

          1. Dean Traylor profile image97
            Dean Traylorposted 8 years agoin reply to this

            Right not rite. As in I have the right to flag you. I also have the right to block your misspelled comments and ponder if you're acting like this because you recently woke up and discovered you had hair down there and think you can do whatever you want. Btw if that's a picture of your unit you may want to go to the doctor and get it checked out.

            1. SheilaMilne profile image94
              SheilaMilneposted 8 years agoin reply to this

              He is a troll.  He disappeared for a few months back but I see he is back.  Best to ignore him..

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                calculus-geometryposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                I wander if he will at least right us anuther poim before he dissapeers into the missed.  Remember your fans, Will McNugget!

                1. Dean Traylor profile image97
                  Dean Traylorposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                  It will probably start of with wow.

                  1. profile image0
                    calculus-geometryposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                    wow he came threw, like mana from hevven

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    ahorsebackposted 8 years ago

    Hillary's poll numbers are sliding essentially in most  important states , Florida , Ohio , Pennsylvanian  and more  , she and Trump are now  about equal in the polls.  Hillary's  trust level is tanked , The voting populace is JUST  beginning  to see her  major shortcomings . Honesty - integrity  -  honor ,  the trust factor , these very important factors are grossly missing from her campaigning personality  .

    New   books are being released , including  a movie -" Hillary's America  "by former staffers ,  campaign workers  and  Secret Service  people showing her and her husbands Mafia  style of leadership  past .  Everyone should simply Google up their  pasts  and judge for themselves , DO I TRUST HILLARY CLINTON ?

    The incredible amount of legalized graft , corruption and  'Hillary For Hire" , Or " Pay for Play" as a head of state dept.  using the Clinton Foundation and  Campaign funding donations is incredible  corrupted.   She needs to explain to my  satisfaction how............... "She Came out of the White House Broke ..........."    And  yet now ,  her and her husband are incredibly   and  even  "filthy  rich "?

    Democrats  didn't properly Vet - Sanders  and the Democrats  are willing to give Hillary a free ride  as well ?.   Got to get your house together  , I'd say !

 
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