Should Trump be charged for giving classified info to the Russians?
When Trump met with the Russians a day after firing Comey as the FBI director he is alleged to have revealed classified info to the Russian obtained from an ally country. This info is said to have put many undercover agents in peril as well as causing our allies to not trust the US with classified information.
What are your thoughts if this turns out to be true?
I really do not know what it will take to get this administration out of office. It's like some kind of alternative universe. I really do hope that whatever it takes will happen soon and that every other country and ally will forgive us. Trump flaunts his ignorance and yet his supporters are completely blind to all. It is so unbelievable.
That saying, "they are too ignorant to know that they are stupid", rings true for many of them. If 45 ate turds in front of a camera, there would be a run on the turd market, and high praise for him being so smart.
I agree, Lela. It's like a bad spy novel where you know the crook right from the get go. It remains to be seen if they're any from the right patriotic enough to stand up to their party's #1 man. I doubt even this screw-up will do the job.
their own words that they used against clinton can be applied to them now. but none of them has any courage, nor any conviction. just partisan loyalty. even mccain/graham. soft as egg yolks on the inside.
This is cherishable from someone who thinks the FBI works for the Judiciary and that there are four branches of government. Ignorance?! Wow! Inconceivable that you 3 folks think you know more than POTUS when you do not even know how many branches.
i think he was insulting me on that one. but you see how the alt right works? we insult trump, they insult us.the politics of personal destruction. they still use it. and real nasty meanness under faux christian front. never met one not like this.
My Goodness Austinstar. You really will argue that the FBI is part of the judiciary. That is so far Mexican and French Napoleonic stuff that it is frightening. FBI is part of the executive branch beholding to the POTUS. End of story.
I consider myself to be an intelligent person with a large degree of common sense. As a moderate Trump supporter, I agree that he seems to create his own problems to a degree but he deserves more of a chance than the left-wing liberals are offering.
What chance should we give him. Curt? Until he tells Russia all of our classified info? Or until he makes all of our allies afraid to share intelligence with us? His lies will be his downfall and those who trusted him will wake up.
100% Truth and God are broken records. Why even bother with the truth, so boring! I feel like the guy at the cocktail party that looks like Austinstar. Nobody listens. they take one look at us and dismiss what we have to say.
Curt, would you hire Trump to build a casino for you? Or any busuness for that matter. What kind of chance does a 70 y/o man with current or approaching dementia need to be given? He is menatally unfit to be president. Temper tantrums and lies always
Curt do not even respond as Autstinstar believes the DOJ is headed by the judiciary like Libya and that there are four branches of government. We are dealing with folks who did not pass the citizen test about legislature, Executive and Judiciary.
Eric, no one said we had 4 branches of government. You've run that into the ground on these comments so give it up. Care to contribute something useful for a change? Give excuses for DT, blame his behavior on Hillary, just anything different.
OK Randy I will leave that alone after giving the quote from Yes Dear ; "the point is,they are supposed to be 4 equal branches" So to the point now. Allies give information to be passed through an intermediary. Israel and Russia do not exchange.we do
That's why DT screwed up so bad, Eric. No ally wants their info shared with Pootie without clearing it with them first. DT doesn't read the intel reports even when they condense them into a single page with bullet points. He's too lazy to be troubled
There is a standard SS (secret service) hard core vet of Presidential candidates. It would make you blush. They just could not find something bad on Trump. He made vetting and then some funking vetting by Obama. The dude is clean.
really? so all that hardcore vetting applied to obama?? and STILL we had trump insisting he was born in kenya....obviously trump doesnt think its hardcore. and is this the 2 yr investigation you are speaking if? the ss?
does a bear sh*t in the woods? this clown should have been shown the door when he made fun of a disabled reporter. its been dumb and dumber since then...like a rolling stone picking up more and more mud on its way down the hill. russia/money laundering/threatening people/firing people/COVER UP/ and now this..... all the republicans need to do is answer this: suppose hillary was prez, and she shared classified intel w russia. what would congress do?
And where are all of the Trump apologists who normally weigh-in in his defense? Even his base is wondering what idiotic move he'll make next. And yes, those self-proclaimed Xtians put him in office. It is indeed a pukable situation!
honestly?theyre fine with it. they are fine that russia hacked our gvt cause it got hillary.they dont care what trump does cause hes not hillary.and then they demand we compromise for them.gtfoh. this is war.for america.kkk knows it,they should too
Yes Randy you and Austinstar should be calling others ignorant and dumb based on "Eric, no Trump is not the boss of the FBI. They are Judiciary, Trump is Executive" I guess you guys are really proving me ignorant.
the point is,they are supposed to be 4 equal branches.trump acts like judge, jury and executioner.and wants you to give breaks to his cronies.check out flynn intel group.vlad has lots of boyfriends here.not really.who knows what drives a traitor?
And now we have one of you declaring that there are four equal branches of Gov. in USA. No - FBI is not part of Judiciary and we have 3 branches of Gov. in the US. You folks are really out there. 4 branches of Gov and the courts run the cops. Really!
whatever!im including prez,house, senate and supreme court.prez not supposed to overule all the rest.hes not a ceo of a company,he works for every single citizen here.and guess what? hes not.far as i can see he works for some dude named donald trump
Standard protocol, ignore that you two do not know what branch the FBI is under and ignore that you do not know how many branches of Gov. there are in the USA. Really sad but keep throwing reused scritpted headlines for fact.
lol!the whole world lies but trump, huh? truth:trump is a lifelong criminal.he used his criminal connects to steal this election.he owes putin his life.he did rape a 13yr old girl with Epstein.he did fraud people out of money,& he launders mob mo
I am starting to get quite interested in failure. The complete Washington establishment from Bush to McCain and all Democrats and seemingly not all but most the press, foreign and domestic simply cannot come up with a smoking gun after two years?
2 years?i thought it was july of 2017. you know of something else?or are you hyperbolating to make trump the victim? surely you heard him threaten hillary during campaign? dish it,take it.and that goes for you,too.can you prove 2 yr investigation?
So it's a forgone conclusion in your mind that this story is true? The Washington Post has published so many stories they have later had to redact, it's not even funny. An unknown source who makes up a story is evidence of Nothing, except that whoever is attempting to leak information illegally needs to be put in jail.
The Left needs to stop going crazy over every fake news story they see. They also need to stop making up foolish conspiracy theories and fake news. Of course, that won't happen. That would be like asking a baby not to cry. At least the baby has good reason....
Below is only one of many fake stories from The Washington Post:
You may be savvy about dating, but you know nothing--in that you are similar to Trump--about intelligence rules. This boasting pretender probably cost us an important source of info, not to mention, probably some lives as well. Take up for the moron!
trump didnt deny it. he says as president, he can do anything he wants. but hes not supposed to aid and abett an enemy, and so he fails. bigly. dear donald, "youre fired". git yer treasonous family and high tail it outta there!
Ok, why is the White House now refusing to release transcripts of the Russia meeting to our intelligence groups? They let the Russian press in, but not American press. WTF? Our intel agencies need to know!
nope.common sense.as fbi guy said, russian active measures worked,cause president used them.sessions,flynn, page all talked to kislyak on trumps behalf...gop platform was changed for russia. trump eo allows drilling in arctic: putin wants. 1+1=2.
This is all irrelevant as you think there are four branches of government. A US educated 3rd grader knows there are 3 branches but you do not and yet you claim to be smarter than POTUS? You in your lack of education is the breakdown not the president
NO, stop hiding behind this "fake news" concept. Trump is a real estate agent with no transferable skills. He had to answer to no one running a family company. Melania doesn't even want to be tainted with his lies for Barron's sake. She stays away.
honestly?yes,i do think im smarter than dumpy.i think my 11 yr old is smarter that dumpy.i KNOW hilllary is,shed never be a puppet for putin.and fake news is all the trumpites have.because ole donald can never give a straight answer.carnival barker
I've just read on Twitter (and perhaps I'm really far behind) that Comey has saved memos suggesting that he was asked by Trump to end the Russia investigation. Looks like he's pretty goosed now, if true
Excuse me? I get lost here when discussing roles. Fine if you have the backing get a special prosecuter, Trump cannot tell her what to do. FBI are employees of the CEO POTUS. He has every right to tell the director (FBI) what to do or fire her.
hes toast. according to mensch, his presidency ended may 9....the day he fired comey. she claims hatch is being prepped to take over, since all of trumpville is corrupt up to their eyeballs. some of them are doing time...and it deserves to be trump.
yeah. he understands "gimme". gimme praise. gimme power. gimme adulation. gimme freedom to do what i and my partners in crime want. gimme gimme gimme. ask not what your country can do for you dumpy! and your foreign friends. at usa taxpayer expense!
It's more like "The Madness of King-Wannabe Donald." He actually believes as President he can do as he wishes without fear of repercussions. It's a good thing he didn't have to start a business with his own assets.
and now he tells comey reporters should be jailed. i guess thats fine with them, too..as long as its people they dont like. who jails reporters?? think about it. jailing people comes next...and we're already number one in that dpt. tin pot territory
Austinstar you put all of these comments in perspective with; "Eric, no Trump is not the boss of the FBI. They are Judiciary, Trump is Executive." The courts direct the law investigation and enforcement? That is Mexico not the USA. You are critical?
Sorry, Eric. Yes, Comey kept extensive memos of his meetings. I'm sure they are signed and dated and filed appropriately. The memos have already been subpoenaed- from both Comey and the Executive branch. Along with any other info. Special prosecutor!
Randy, Yes Dear and Austinstar have stated or supported the concepts that FBI is part of the judiciary, that there are 4 branches of government and that those who do not believe that must be Trumpsters. You 3 are awesome. Very intelligent!
nobody said that anybody who doesnt think so are trumpsters. and you can insult peoples intelligence to your hearts content. at least we had the good sense not to elect an egomaniacal gasbag who shares classified intel w a sworn adversary.
May 3rd, Comey was asked if anyone asked him to stop the investigation. He said no. If this memo exists, then the context may not suggest that the president asked him to stop the investigation. Otherwise did Comey perjure himself when asked that?
Very exciting stuff. PART 600—GENERAL POWERS OFSPECIAL COUNSEL Sec. 600.1 Grounds for appointing a Special Counsel. 600.2 Alternatives available to the Attorney General. Coercion code comes from Christ's theology otherwise a bribe- which don't fit.
Are we really suggesting that HBO was so incompetent? He could not with the NSA, FBI and CIA dig up bad crap on Trump? Incredible that a man so honored could not find indictable offense of such an idiot politically with no ties to our security forces
umm,obama did have crap on trump. thats why he safeguarded the trumprussia facts all throughout the gvt so trump couldn't get in there and delete it all. btw, he and sessions broke into comey computer, sent info to vlad. this guy is so dirty,lifelong
Yes! trump should be tried for treason, but will he? I doubt it. When one of the "Good Ole P&*#ks, commits an act of treason, they say, look what Hillary or Obama did, don't look at me and the Greedy Old P&*#ks, yell yeah lock her up!
Sorry Randy, for the profanity, it is just when a person has gotten away with crimes and blames others (Clinton/Obama) for made-up stuff, it gets to me.
yes, hes a real pos. hes cruel, vindictive, and self-pitying. after all the people he's drug through the mud, he cries the biggest tears if you criticize him. hes just cruel. and sadistic, because he enjoys it. imo
eric, i explained it to you. i mean house, senate, prez and supreme court. do you not accept that? or is it your godly duty to come around and belitte fellow hubpages members? can no one dislike dumpy without the wrath of the faux christians?
The definition of treason - "the betrayal of one's country by attempting to kill the sovereign [not applicable] or overthrow the government." I have seen no proven action on his part in which he is actively attempting to overthrow our government.
of course they overthrew the gvt. hillary won. and i mean won, even mi, wi., pa. votes were suppressed. votes were crosschecked, ballots werent counted. the exit polls were not wrong. the surprise was real...cause this election was hacked!
The answer is no, because what he did is not illegal, according to many experts.
But David Gergen is one of the most respected presidential advisors in Washington He served Nixon, Ford, Reagan and Clinton. He said Trump has violated his oath of office and has shown such a high level of misconduct that he is not fit to serve.
He also said that Trump has entered "impeachment territory" because of the pressure he put on Comey to drop the FBI investigation into Michael Flynn.
so, getting a bj in the oval office is illegal?? cause thats what they went after clinton for. know what i think? in a republican gvt, they make up the law. no integrity whatsoever. and they steal elections.thats why they just do what they please.
Scott, you're probably correct as the evidence is still coming in on Trump's meeting with Comey. But why do you think DT asked both Sessions and the deputy AG to leave the room before asking Comey to let up on Flynn's investigation?
why dont you just google it and see for yourself? then google trumprussia....holy toledo. i only use twitter, and thats a goldmine. im just curious that none of you seem to know trumps history... russia is huge. &you all dont know. odd.
what do you have, trump google? i googled "gergen on trump", and there are numerous sites of same video! gergen, "i think we're in impeachment territory"....which commandment is thou shalt not lie for trump? lmc bible, 2017 edition.
On what fact basis is Gergen basing his pronouncement of impeachment? Has he seen memos, tapes or other documentary evidence? No question that Trump has behaved in a peculiar manner, but impeachment seems a bit early at this stage.
ohhh, so you can go after a us prez for getting serviced in the white house, but hands off team trump and russia? now we see that trump and putin were trying to set up a back-channell to communicate out of eyesight. sessions lied to congress...AND!?
I have never seen such incompetence at the Democratic Congressional group and the Senatorial group. Allegations flying but not one "chargeable" notion in about 24 months. Assume bad. Your idiots cannot find it? Total incompetence if true.
thats really the problem right wingers have...they think they are so superior that they can do anything.years investigating hillary,accusing obama..i guess they were "idiots", cause they found nothing.trump is guilty walking in door.how'd he get in?
your question is: Should Trump be charged for giving classified info to the Russians? i will say Yes!! if Trump Share US private or very important info to not only Russia even any country He Should be charged
Such naive lack of understanding means that one has not read the USC code sections pertaining to the issues at hand. Evening news rules your perception and a peaceful enlightenment is not in your future.
hmm. which code states its ok for a president to share secrets w an adversary?one who has just stolen and released personal emails from a us citizen?i may be stupid, but that seems like an act of war to me. and the gd prez is on the side of the enemy
First - "alleged" is all anyone has to go on right now Second - The President can declassify anything he wants at any time Third - If you want to go after someone for jepordizing America - then why aren't the leakers your target? People who run right out of a briefing and give the contents to the Washington Post or New York Times to score political points are the ones who should be prosecuted - unless we take some serious steps as a nation to redefine National Security - this entire process that we're watching unfold will be repeated - but maybe the next time it will be a Democrat in the WH - remember how the Nuclear Option of Harry Reid backfired????
I know most of the people on this thread hate the President. You're angry that an upstart beat Hillary Clinton. You feel like the Obama policies are being dismantled and you're watching as the economy grows under Trump when it floundered under Obama and you are angry - I get that. What I don't get it why you refuse to allow a fairly elected President just do the job!
Talk about OBSTRUCTIONISTS ! The modern Liberal Democrats take the prize as the biggest obstructionists in the history of our nation.
OK - now let the HATE begin - tell me how stupid I am, dodge, divert, and deflect from the facts and paint me as an idiot! Woo Hoo...bring it!!!!
Hooray for you, Ralph. You get the pleasure of finding out the person you voted for is a criminal much worse than you ever thought Hillary and Obama were. And your use of "fairly elected" is simply a joke at this point.
Also funny "as the economy grows under Trump when it floundered under Obama". I don't hate U or Trump - feel sorry 4 all of us bcuz of your erroneous perceptions. Trump shouldn't have fired Comey when he did. His inexperience keeps biting him.
actually, im furious that putin hacked our election, and none of you so-called patriots seem to care! you also forget that hillary got more votes than him. and his approval rate is in toilet. we dont want fascist usa. get used to it!
It doesn't have anything to do with hate, although all you Godly, lying Christians keep twisting facts we have known for weeks. They wanted to "lock her up" and acted better than anyone else. The R's have no shame or morals. Trump is a criminal.
he already botched a raid in yemen, and 2 us citizens were killed. how come no hearings?? and the israelis have said he put their agents in serious harms way. and, they will think twice about sharing intel with usa again. all for putin.
Hey Ralph, I agree with u of course (no surprise here)! As far as I know there isn't a shred of evidence against Trump, just assumptions! And u brought up a great point, " why aren't the leakers your target?"
cauze we dont watch fox news.fox ignores team trump lies,focuses on the heros who expose them.if trump is innocent,he should welcome investigation.his whole life hes paid his way out of trouble.not this time.you dont eff over US gubmint with a foe.
John you just gave me another quote I can give Randy that he will hate. The POTUS cannot do what? He cannot declare war? (funding?) He cannot risk American lives? Boy Lincoln should have been hung not assassinated!
John and Eric, can either of you guarantee no Americans will be put in harm's way by DT's loose lips. No telling what effect his bragging will have on future security of the US and our allies. DT is ignorant of political policy.
This is a very serious matter. R's better wake up and smell the coffee. It has nothing to do with Trump haters. I think he's a moron, but wished him well, if he chose staff carefully he could maybe have been a success. I never realized his Trump empire was just a family biz, he doesn't answer to shareholders and or a Bd. of Directors. He is a lowly real estate developer, rich enough to buy whatever land and material he needs.
There is no reason his daughter and son in law should be in on classified meetings. Ivanka is an idiot who suggests a strawberry milkshake a day makes everyone happy in her book. She would have no biz if it wasn't a floor downstairs from Dad. Her hubby is another money grubber, the marriage was probably arranged and she's too stupid to realize it.
He never divested his money interests, fired Comey while being the subject of an FBI investigation, and Flynn was already in trouble before he was part of the cabinet, Trump knew and tried to get Comey to stop the investigation. He gets payoffs from Putin. He even hid behind Hillary last week, who although disliked, did know how to run a country. We look bad all over the world.
His skill set does not stretch to be able to run a country. There's been a scandal everyday since he was elected. He took over the country the first day as President Elect, and robbed Obama of the last 2 1/2 months of his Presidency. Now he's broken so many laws, told so many lies, it's a criminal investigation. I hope he's out by the end of the year.
And I'm sick of "Moral Christians" who will steal the shirt off a dying person so they can hide more money in their numbered accounts. Obama at least made inroads with healthcare, with enough decency to care about other fellow human beings, as Jesus expected of you moral hypocrites.
The "fake news" was another invention of Fox News, like the old War on Christmas. Uneducated people believe this nonsense. Sorry about Roger Ailes, but the station should be taken off the air. CNN is bland, and MSNBC has R's in it now, and is telling truth. Coal mines in most states have been shut down now, even in PA. He lied to his voters through his whole campaign. Melania appeared to go on this trip with him, and was so ashamed she didn't hold his hand or wave to the crowd. She's the brains in the family.
We need a free press, or do you want to be a country like Russia? Criticizing the press just shows stupidity. News moves much faster than it did during Watergate. And what Nixon did is nothing compared to this.
Wonderful answer, Jean. Patriots are still around although sometimes they stay in the background until needed. I'm not religious, but I cannot see what Xtians saw in Trump. PT Barnum was right, especially in the case of phony Xtians.
Absolutely, He should be impeached. He acts like a very spoiled ENTITLED 10-year-old. We as private citizens would be arrested, Patriot Act slapped on us, and prison I'm sure. His White House is in chaos.
He hired Michael Flynn after several people told him of his ties to Russia. I think Trump has deep ties to Russia because that's all we have heard about since day 1. I'm pretty sure after he is out of office, we'll see "TrumpVilles" all over Moscow.
I am a tried and true bleeding heart liberal democrat. So this answer may be a bit biased, but if I'm very honest, I hoped he would accomplish some of the things he talked about during his campaign. It's clear there will always be chaos, with no legislation in sight.
Trump is not breaking the law by giving the Russians classified information. He is the only person in the country that can do so without being charged. If it was a clever move, I don't think so. What I do know now is that Trump is not a politician and not clever in his role as a president. He is making one political amateur blunder after the next. Like firing the head of the FBI without thinking about the consequences. And last in the line is to visit Saudi Arabia before visiting Israel. He has no feel for diplomacy whatsoever. This lack of understanding of how the democracy in the US works will be his downfall. He thinks he can run the US like a business with one boss who dictates all. That's fortunately not how it works. A dictatorship works like that, the US not (yet)
This is what many of us see, Peter. DT has no tact nor knowledge how to obtain such. His staff and cabinet are terrified of what he's going to say or tweet next. And yes, DT wants to be either king or a tyrant. He'd prefer the latter of course.
Very simply no. He has the authority to share classified information with other nations. This is out of the mouth of Alan Dershowitz one of the foremost Attorney of constitutional law. he also makes the claim president Trump can not be charged with obstruction due to asking Comey "please let the investigation go on Flynn".
No one knows what is else will be discovered in the FBI investigation, but as for Trump giving Russia classified info he has not committed a crime.
Randy - I am aware of the intel officials. It does get deeper, I will admit. I watched the congress this morning question Daniel Coats, and he would not comment on the investigation, and would not admit the story was true. Very confusing.
Some things Coates and other intel guys cannot talk about in public, Sharon. They're trying to protect the investigations going on by doing so. No telling what was said in the private interview, though we may find out something eventually.
Randy, I am aware that their has been an unconfirmed source that made this allegation, and that no one from Intel has admitted to this allegation. I guess it will come out in the investigation if true? I just don't buy into allegations.
Lately I have been waking up in the morning wondering if someone has slipped me acid because seriously, at no other point in history would our president be allowed to pull this without being called out for treason! This is not OK! This will never be OK! Why on earth would we allow someone in power to do this publically?! Because he's going to do what he's going to do anyway... since when is that an excuse for unlawful behavior??
thats a dam good question.its like 9/11. or the invasion of iraq. feels like we are under a spell. this is treason. russia hacked, they knew in aug 2016 or something. "oh well, russia hacked our election. ho hum" say what? trump is obstructing. yawn?
Theophanes, you hit the nail on the head with this answer. I don't care which party one is from, this is simply unacceptable! But then, those who chose him are very reluctant to admit they were taken in by this snake oil salesman.
yes,well,seems everyone else is lying but trump.and the majority of citizens do not want a wall,do not want saudi to make our weapons,do not want our healthcare cut,or retro lock-em-up enforcement.our election was mobbed. literally.but its backfiring
A "SURREAL Darkest NIGHTMARE" of Biblical Proportions in the form of an "EVIL Huckster" named Trump is upon us ~ But GOOD always DEFEATs EVIL, it's just a matter of time now ~ The CIA, FBI & the RESISTANCE must CONTAIN him until he's REMOVED
Hopefully so, AP. The sooner we get this buffoon out of office the safer I'll feel. I've never see such a disastrous presidency in all my years and never expected for people following him who are so brainwashed by his many lies.
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