jump to last post 1-4 of 4 discussions (35 posts)

The US is considering moving the embassy to Jerusalem

  1. jackclee lm profile image81
    jackclee lmposted 4 months ago

    What do you think about this new move by Trump?
    Is this a good idea?
    Jerusalem will be recgnized as the capital of Israel.
    What is the consequence if any?

    1. wilderness profile image98
      wildernessposted 4 months agoin reply to this

      I'm confused (and ignorant) about this.  Why is the US president deciding where the capital of a foreign nation shall be?  Why isn't Israel making that call, and whatever they decide is what is to be?

      1. Live to Learn profile image78
        Live to Learnposted 4 months agoin reply to this

        What I heard was the US has some convoluted system where it says the embassy is in Jerusalem and every so often it passes a measure to temporarily leave the embassy in Tel Aviv. Trump,they said, is going to sign to leave it in Tel Aviv,  but actually move it, finally.

        Things just got more ridiculous.

        1. wilderness profile image98
          wildernessposted 4 months agoin reply to this

          What?  What?  Trump is going to order it left in Tel Aviv while moving it to Jerusalem?  Because congress says it is in Jerusalem while it is in Tel Aviv?  And, according to the liberal news last night, the rest of the world is angry and ready for war because the US want's it's embassy where Israel says the capital is?

          Is it any wonder we peasants cannot understand politico-speak?

      2. colorfulone profile image84
        colorfuloneposted 4 months agoin reply to this

        As president, Bill Clinton, signed into law to move the US Embassy to Jerusalem, but he never did, nor did the presidents to follow.  But, now Trump is going to enforce the law. 

        Several countries are now showing interest in moving their Embassy to Jerusalem.

        President Trump will deliver his Jerusalem speech at 1pm E.

        1. jackclee lm profile image81
          jackclee lmposted 4 months agoin reply to this

          This is the same thinking by some foreign policy experts that we the US can bring peace to the Middle East...
          They have been fighting for a few thousand years...off and on.
          We have no influence one way or another...its an illusion.
          It makes no difference where the Capital is located to the Arab world. They never recognized the State of Israel.

          1. colorfulone profile image84
            colorfuloneposted 4 months agoin reply to this

            The time period to move the Embassy has come to its end, its do it now or wait another six months to decide.  I believe today is the final day to act on the delay, if I understand it right.  There is presidency.

            Added:   
            The Bible says Jerusalem is "The city of the Great King." Psalm 48:2
            Psalm 122:6 says to "pray for the peace of Jerusalem." 

            Trump pledged his support to the Jewish state, and promised to move the US Embassy repeatedly during his campaign.   He is mandated to do it.

            1. wilderness profile image98
              wildernessposted 4 months agoin reply to this

              If Trump's mandate is coming from religious writings - any religious tome - then it should not be done.

              If it's not, then let it stand on its own merits and ignore the writings of the ancients.

              1. jackclee lm profile image81
                jackclee lmposted 4 months agoin reply to this

                There is no biblical prophecy regarding US embassy in Jerusalem...
                The act by the US is merely symbolic. It is a strong statement of support for the State of Israel which was not the case under the Obama years. Lets hope the Palestinians and other Arab states take note. We are supporting Israel’s right to exist.

                1. wilderness profile image98
                  wildernessposted 4 months agoin reply to this

                  Personally, I believe that nearly everything the US does for, with or about Israel is rooted in religious beliefs.  Which means that parts of it's holy writings will be conveniently interpreted to show that it is correct.

                  But if the whole thing is merely symbolic, it would seem there are not only far cheaper things we might do, things that won't uproot lives, won't cost millions of dollars and might actually benefit the US or at a minimum our people at the embassy.

                  1. jackclee lm profile image81
                    jackclee lmposted 4 months agoin reply to this

                    That may be true but since when does America worry about costs...? That is why we have a 20 trillion dollar debt and growing.
                    Our support for Israel is based on our believe in justice and democracy. Israel is the only democratic state in the Middleast. They are our allies and our trade partners and our friend in the fight against Islamic terrorism.

              2. colorfulone profile image84
                colorfuloneposted 4 months agoin reply to this

                I look at it as an historic time.  Yes, Trump could very well change history.

                Its an exciting time to be alive!

                1. colorfulone profile image84
                  colorfuloneposted 4 months agoin reply to this

                  Bush and Obama making the promise to move the Embassy. Video and audio.
                  https://twitter.com/foxandfriends/statu … 9027375105

                  People cheered them for making that promise.  Why were they not true to their mandate?  Cowards, weak, liars?

    2. colorfulone profile image84
      colorfuloneposted 4 months agoin reply to this

      President Trump did it!   smile 

      Lawmakers passed the Jerusalem Embassy Act in 1995, signed into law by President Clinton.

  2. ahorseback profile image77
    ahorsebackposted 4 months ago

    Looking at the Jewish and the Jewish state   one can deduct  easily why that ,especially with today's media , that our culture has absolutely no political memory , no real cultural conscious  and a lousy grasp on  the " history of then "  as compared to the "history of now "   .     Look at world media alone  , in 1939 there were two essential parts of the news media , written  and radio ,  both fairly undeveloped and  infantile as far as any basic mature cultural grasp .  Then we read papers a week or two old  for any information ,     some of us who think that today's news media is biased , immature and out of sync would grow an instant and total appreciation of what we call today "being informed ".

    But have we evolved , Not so much .

  3. Randy Godwin profile image91
    Randy Godwinposted 4 months ago

    The US, Britain, and France put the Jews in Israel to be our bully boy in a region with vast oil resources. We gave them nuclear weapons to help them have their way in the Middle East, British Petroleum is one such entity which held sway over such deals in this area.

  4. PrettyPanther profile image82
    PrettyPantherposted 4 months ago

    I am going to say this because, you know, I like to spout my opinion. ;-)

    I gave up a long time ago caring about who did what and why. I just can't muster up any real interest in it. People have been  fighting and dying for so long....for what? Nothing, and I mean nothing, is worth that much death and destruction.

    I've lost interest, other than when I hear there might be a chance for peace. Even then, I just kinda perk up my ears and wait and see.

    So, because of that, my only concern about this recent decision is, will it further the cause of peace? If it doesn't, or if it mnakes matters worse, it isn't worth doing

    1. Randy Godwin profile image91
      Randy Godwinposted 4 months agoin reply to this

      It all comes down to Trump doing what the rich Jews in the US and Israel want. They are some of the chief donators to the Republican party. It's all about money as usual.

      1. jackclee lm profile image81
        jackclee lmposted 4 months agoin reply to this

        If that was true, then why didn’t GW Bush or President Obama did the same when they were in power?the same rich donors contributed to their campaigns...

 
working