Do you think Obama is pro Israel?

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Harvey Stelmanposted 13 years ago
His action's make me believe he is a muslim at heart.
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  Maddie Ruudposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  "A Muslim at heart"???? What the heck is that supposed to mean?
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  Harvey Stelmanposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  You're too intelligent not to understand that.
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  RKHenryposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  So...., is it really such a bad thing? Is it? Why???
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  Harvey Stelmanposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Not very thoughtful at this time. Did Israel ever attack us, what countries does the US fear on terrorism................ Man if you don't know why you must be a Jew hating Muslim. How does it feel to be called a racist?
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  tksenseiposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I get the feeling YOU would know the answer to that one.
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  Make Moneyposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Obama would be smart to get rid of any of these guys if they are still holding office or being consulted as well.
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  Paragliderposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Your post makes me believe you are a bigot at heart.
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  tksenseiposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  LOL! Well turned.
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  Harvey Stelmanposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Your words make me feel sorry for you. Ha Israel ever attacked any Arab territory without provocation, NO. The day after is received its charter from the UN, five Arab countries attacked. Israel's 800,000 citizens (that did include women and children)defeated them all. There was hardly an Air Force.
  
  They saved 10,000 Jewish Ethopians that experiened prejudice, by bringing them to Israel.
  
  How would you like 10,000 rocket's coming down on you a year?
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  egivposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  That is ignorant.
  
  First of all, Israel needs to be checked, and he is the only one with the balls to stand up to them. Sorry, but look at the numbers of dead between Israel and Gaza after last year/winter. Who are terrorists? Second, he is an obvious Christian. If you don't believe it, it is because you don't want to. Third, when did it become an insult to call people Muslim? You call him a Muslim as if you were calling him inept.
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  Harvey Stelmanposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Easy to see which side you're on. Israel needs to be checked. Who did they fire against first? The Palestinians fire over 10,000 rockets a year at Israel (not to mention suicde bombers), don't they deserve to fire back? Is it their fault they don't stand behind women and children to fight? What brave men.
  
  When good Muslim's stand up to the idiot's, my opinions will change drastically. By the way, I'm so prejudice I have a Muslim doctor, he's a great guy.
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  egivposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Congratulations for coming up with more and more ignorant comments, proving both your stupidity and that you clearly have no life. Again, look at the statistics (real facts, they are helpful sometimes) of the "war" in Gaza last winter. How many Israelis died? Under 10. How many Palestinians? Over 1,000. Sounds more like a massacre.
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  Bob Loblahposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  23Aug09
  
  Everybody has to ' play the game '
  
  Not so long ago Germany and Japan were our bitter enemies.....
  now they are our business friends.
  
  Everybody becomes friends and enemies at one time or another..
  ...just imagine Genghis Khan.
  
  Forever and Ever
  Bob Loblah
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  video lostposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Yes, Obama is a name sake Muslim and he is 100% pro Israeli, serving the same objectives as Zionists and Freemasons do. Also one of his speaches revealed that WWIII is gonna start in the near future and the ignition will be primarily from his side.
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  Make Moneyposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Most of Obama's speeches can be found online. Do you remember what the date of the speech was that you are referring to?
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  Harvey Stelmanposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  4% of Israelis view him favorably. Try www.jewishworldreview.com or www.honestreporting.com
  
  This is only if you want the real story.
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  video lostposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  President Obama’s recent speech at the Veterans of Foreign Wars Convention
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  Make Moneyposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Well here is a report from the Los Angeles Times on President Obama’s recent speech at the Veterans of Foreign Wars Convention. But it does not even imply "that WWIII is gonna start in the near future and the ignition will be primarily from his side" as you said. Not even close. I don't know where you are getting your ideas from video lost.
  http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld … 8307.story
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  Harvey Stelmanposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Haven't you learned yet not to believe what Obama says, watch what he does.
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  video lostposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Make Money,
  
  What do you think Obama is a fool and he is going to shout about WWIII and ARMAGEDON in open words. Take the following bold words from his speech.
  
  ... “As I said when I announced this strategy, there will be more difficult days ahead. The insurgency in Afghanistan didn’t just happen overnight and we won’t defeat it overnight....
  
  (pointing towards WWIII)
  
  ... “Now, even as we lead and equip our troops for the missions of today, we have a third responsibility to fulfill. We must prepare our forces for the missions of tomorrow....
  
  (the third responsibility of third world war)
  
  ... “If a project doesn’t support our troops, if it does not make America safer, we will not fund it. If a system doesn’t perform, we will terminate it....
  
  (what the Americans have ??? to fund any project, USA is under the debt of about 4 trillion dollars, how is he going to fund further projects for military ??? obviously with the money of Rothschild and Freemasons. The same theme was applied to Ancient Crusaders funded solely to greedy poor masses of christianity, turned them into murderers and blood suckers of innocent muslims.)
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  egivposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Hahahaha keep stocking up on duct tape and canned peas, bud. That was obviously not his message, but it can be if you want. It must have slipped by all intelligent Americans, but good thing we have you. Leave me a seat in the bunker!
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  video lostposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  By the way, Americans are the most foolish nation on earth
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  tksenseiposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  That statement is as idiotic as the sentence by which it was expressed.
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  Make Moneyposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  You can't blame them because of their media. Actually both sides of the issue, both the Jews and the Muslims that keep this aggression going are not too intelligent when you consider that the old law of an eye for an eye has been obsolete for a couple of millenia.
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  video lostposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Dear, i did'nt say that Muslims or Jews are the intelligent ones as compared to Americans and yes it's because of international media by which the Freemasons and Zionists are controlling the minds of Americans as well as other nations. American Nation contains in itself Jews, Christians, Muslims, Hindus, Mormons, Atheists, Agnostics, Freemasons etc etc. i was talking about them as a whole. Americans are very well aware who is controlling their media, society, economics but could'nt do any thing against them and are still following them unreasonably. That's the reason i called Americans as the most foolish nation on earth, they can not even take control of those few sitting in America, who are decieving them directly and indirectly and also the whole world.
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  Harvey Stelmanposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Is that why Obama's favorable poll is now 4% in Israel.
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  Marisa Wrightposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  What a silly thing to say.
  
  Are you saying that anyone who isn't on the side of the Jews must be a Muslim? Therefore you're saying there are no Christians, Hindus, Buddhists or other religions in the world.
  
  It's perfectly possible to be Christian and still disagree with Israel, or see value in Palestine's argument. It's even possible to be a Jew and be ashamed of Israel's history and actions.
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  video lostposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Dear Wright,
  
  You just perfectly said.
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Ultimate Hubberposted 13 years ago
What actions?
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Ultimate Hubberposted 13 years ago
And why should he be pro Israel? He is president of the United States and not an Israeli prime minister.
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  Eaglekiwiposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Obvious point well done.
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  Harvey Stelmanposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Check what was written under your second post, on this topic.
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  ihatedrivingposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  You are such a complainer man. Get a hobby like sports or something.
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  Harvey Stelmanposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Did you read my profile, Multiple Sclerosis for 28 years, in a wheel-chair; wannt to shoot some hoops? Years ago I did playbasket with twoo Hall of Famers and seven other pros. For an almost 5'10" white guy, I was able to dunk. Have you ever seen that? Baseball, football and track came to me very easy. One of the top under 18 bowlers in NYC at 16.
  
  Singing: Opened for Elton John and Jethro Tull, MS destroyed that career.
  
  Is that well rounded enough for you, NO! Started an MS charity and coordinated support groups, calling support for the elderly, advisor to people in a Retirement Center, etc. I hope you approve.
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  Harvey Stelmanposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Umm, maybe because Israel is the only countey in the middle-east we can trust. When Israel took out Iraq's neuclear facility most people here cheered. Now Obama wants Israel to give up part of Jerusalem and stop construction in the west bank.
  
  If Canada or Mexico lobbed thousand's of rocket's into the US would you want us to sit back.
  
  Obama told Israel not to attack Iran's nuclear facility. Who is butting in on the other's domain?
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  Ultimate Hubberposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  If US would do to Canada or Mexico what Israel does to poor Palestinians then they won't be left with any other option than firing rockets into the United States.
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  VENUGOPAL SIVAGNAposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Israel fires rockets into Palestine areas... Palestinians should react by firing rockets on Israel and not into USA. Just for supporting friendly Israel, should USA receive the rockets?
  
  Great comedy... !....?
  
  Palestinians and their supporters have no guts to face Israel.... But they think they can attack USA.
  
  Using this policy, Pakistan supports terrorists and it must receive the Indian missiles.
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  Ultimate Hubberposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Looks like we have a dumb piece of crap over here... Will anyone teach him enough English to understand what exactly we are talking about... better not bother wasting your time with this piece of crap...
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  Harvey Stelmanposted 13 years agoin reply to this
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  Harvey Stelmanposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  So you read all the B.S. about the Palestinian's. If treated so badly, why do over two million Palastinians live in Israel proper. One is in the Knesseth, some are plicemen and other's fight in the military. They get educated, have electricity and all the rights of an Israeli citizen.
  
  Israel has given land, electricity, water, education and more to the Palestinians. What wonderful things do Arab countries do for Israel? Oh I forgot, it is an honor to be killed by them.
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  Harvey Stelmanposted 13 years agoin reply to this
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  Harvey Stelmanposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Don't you think every President has a policy on every country. Israel votes with the US more than any country at the UN.
  
  Obama wants to change things between our countries. Haven't you seen him bow to the Saudi King, he apologized to Muslim's in Cairo (He does that everywhere), he blame Israel for all the problem's in the Gaza Strip, he believes Hamas is legitimat and gave them 30 million dollar's to bring people to the US. Do you want them for neighbor's?
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Eaglekiwiposted 13 years ago
Oh my goodness,

Its statements like that , that make me question 'freedom of speech'
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Uninvited Writerposted 13 years ago
The US has always "butted in" in Israel's affairs. I guess the money does not come free...
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  Hauntyposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Yes, and in one of his first speeches as president he spoke directly to the people of Israel and ensured them of this very thing.
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  Harvey Stelmanposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Read this article http://www.JewishWorldReview.com for a true understanding of what Obama.
  
  One of the first things Obama did after his swearing in was to send 30 million dollar's of our money to Hamas. That was for them to resettle Hamas people here. Want a new neighbor?
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iyoung03posted 13 years ago
Actions speak louder than words and I think his actions and words speak pretty loud he is not pro Israel. Which is a shame since they have been our staunchest allies in that region of the world.
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  RKHenryposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  More like our BEST customer! Allies? They would all be dead without us. Allies? No. I think not.
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  Harvey Stelmanposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  You ***********, Israel has the fourth leading military in the world. If they wanted to they could dstroy all Arab countries. They don't because the world already hates them, and talk about prejudice.
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  Fountain of Infoposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  HAH LOL @ Prejudice LOOK WHOS TALKING .....UR THE ONE WHO IS PREJUDICE "I think Obamas a Muslim at heart"
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  Harvey Stelmanposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  They would be dead without us. Not since 1967! They now have the 4th or 5th strongest military in the world. With around 8 million Jews surrounde by a few hundred Muslim's; why do you think the Muslim's are affraid of them? Muslim's alway talk the talk, but their legs are broken.
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  atomswifeyposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I have to disagree with you on that "they would all be dead if not for us". Look at the 6 day war for an example of where we were not supporting Israel much at all nor was anyone else for that matter and yet they managed to survive it.
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  Harvey Stelmanposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Thank you for understanding.
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earnestshubposted 13 years ago
Does it matter what Obama thinks personally? At this stage I do not see any major changes in foreign policy under Obama. He is not the one who decides, he will simply state that policy
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  Ron Montgomeryposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Actually, I think it does. An American president's greatest powers lie in the foreign policy arena. The constitution put a check on these powers by limiting the declaration of war to congress, but several presidents have easily side-stepped that provision.
  
  The personal thoughts of our last president got us into a mess in Iraq. There certainly was no legitimate national security concern to cause us to make that blunder.
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  Army Infantry Momposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Your right about that,..Obama has his boss, infact he has a few. Ombama is merley the puppet in theater. I am affraid the whole situation hasn't been at it's worst,... yet.
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  Harvey Stelmanposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Army Mom, You are correct, he isn't the boss. He is supposed to be, but ask the Apollo Alliance. B.O., as I call him. No disrespect intended, sure. He is a follower, not a leader. He has never been a leader. He won't even let his grades out of
  1- High School.
  2- Occidenal College, most don't know he spent two years there. I guess his H.S. grades weren't good.
  3- Columbia Univ.
  4- Harvard Law.
  
  His friend's in college will not speak of him, fear of reprisal. Nice guy.
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  Army Infantry Momposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Very Inresting,..
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  SweetiePieposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Harvey,
  
  Interesting how the same conservatives that cry foul against any perceived Internet monitoring by the government want to dig through all of Obama's past. Why do you need all this information anyway? So you can write more angry hubs about how Obama is anti-American. Can I be perfectly honest? I find your comments and tone towards Obama very prejudiced, and I wonder why you accuse others of the same thing. Sounds like projecting to me.
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  RKHenryposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Very well put here. Could not agree more. Well said!
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  Paragliderposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Yes, I agree wholeheartedly. We have too many bad losers who don't want to give Obama a chance.
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  Mishaposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Yeah Dave, I am a bad loser, I was saying he did not have a chance way before he was elected, and I keep saying this now. You can give him as many chances as you want, it does not change the fact that he was doomed to fail no matter what he did, he is failing and actively helping it, and he will spectacularly fail.
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  Paragliderposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Hi Misha - I reckon If I'd taken on the job with that legacy of debt, I'd have 'failed' too. Unless the magic wand in my 50 year old Sooty's Magic Set realy works.
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  earnestshubposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Gentlemen, the task whether he can succeed or not is enormous!
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  Harvey Stelmanposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Ronald Reagan did it!
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  Harvey Stelmanposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  If you understood what he was saying before the election, you would know why he will go down in history as the worst President ever. Tell me what he has done positively, with his absolute power?
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  Mishaposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  It's not only debt I think, it is primarily a society mindset, but yeah, it is mission impossible. And what Obama is doing after being elected is not making this mission any closer to becoming possible.
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  jiberishposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Misha, tell us what you think about the 45 plus czars in the Obama admin?
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  Mishaposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I have no idea whom you are talking about. What 45 czars? Seriously.
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  tksenseiposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Yeah, be silent! How dare you ask questions of your political masters? Do as you are told and like it!
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  Harvey Stelmanposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  You said it all, they don't have answers.
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  egivposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Yes, I am sure Obama is TERRIFIED that you will see his high school grades. After all, he went to Columbia University, Harvard Law, and then was a professor at the University of Chicago. I am sure his grades must have been HORRIBLE!! What a scandal!!!
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ryankettposted 13 years ago
Even if he was a muslim, which is a ridiculous suggestion, I can't see what the problem would be with that; unless you are suggesting that we should outcast 1.2 billion of the worlds population for their religious beliefs because a very small minority of them are engaged in aggressive activity.

If he does have a problem with the Isreali regime he would only be sharing that problem with almost every other country in the world who were appalled at their actions against Palistineans, who were not even afforded the basic human right to aid due to Isreali's refusing the entry of Red Cross humanitarian workers whilst children and the elderly died of their war injuries.

The excuse of the Isreali's of course being that medical supplies could make their way to Hamas, who are the ELECTED government of the Palistinean state.
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  Harvey Stelmanposted 13 years agoin reply to this
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  Shahzariminposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  you made a clear point there... was it worth killing the innocent children, elderly, mothers.. in palestine and Iraq..
  
  too sad...how a human can treat the other...as if lives has no value..
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  Fountain of Infoposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Yeah thats really sad......how can a country be so cruel, just look at all those children of war...how scarred they are and will be if they ever live to grow up
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  earnestshubposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Israels behavior in denying aid was appalling. Both sides are to blaim for bowing to their of their zealots, but still. That was a terrible breach of human rights.
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  video lostposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Jews themselves are against Israel
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  earnestshubposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Zealots like this are as bad as you are. They're against almost everything!
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andromidaposted 13 years ago
Obama is just a pro American-if u think from this point of view the answer is yes.
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Will Apseposted 13 years ago
This kind of hatred isn't good for you Harvey. Or anybody else.
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  Harvey Stelmanposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  It's never good for anyone, but when you are such a small minority you have to stand up. I've been beaten, knifed and shot at. A say; "NEVER AGAIN!"
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tksenseiposted 13 years ago
Is this politics or religion? It feels more like the latter.
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  Harvey Stelmanposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  In this matter religion is politic's, but I will stand with any Muslim that stands for peace.
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  tksenseiposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  No offense, but I don't believe you.
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  Harvey Stelmanposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I will stand with any good person. There are fools here that have no idea of what reality is.
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  tksenseiposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Yeah, about that...
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AnythingGoesposted 13 years ago
Saudi Prince and Bush

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AnythingGoesposted 13 years ago
Well, I guess that ended that discussion
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Eaglekiwiposted 13 years ago
Pretty childish statement ...Obama has the heart of a Muslim?

I like Cat Stevens (Yusof??, bought his CD'S whats that make me?

Oh is this a sock puppet thread?
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tantrumposted 13 years ago
Every person that's in serious business is pro-Israel or pro-Arabs. It depends where he's standing. So if you know where Obama's standing, you get the correct answer.
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  Harvey Stelmanposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Idiot's make stupid comments.
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  tantrumposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Well ,I wrote it to see if you were idiot enough as to pick it !
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  Harvey Stelmanposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I try to answer everyone, so who's the ddummy. By the way, nice pic.
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  tantrumposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  If you try to answer everyone with offensive comments, you get what you deserve
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  Harvey Stelmanposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I have had a wonderful life and the people to share it with, and you?
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  tantrumposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  you have had.....so not anymore?
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  Harvey Stelmanposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I have MS and I'm in a wheel-chair, are you happy?
  
  I have Ms and am in a wheel-chair, I'll bet you're happy.
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  tantrumposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  And I'm not answering to this!!!
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  Harvey Stelmanposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  You peace of crap,, I hope you look like your picture.
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  tantrumposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  tantrum wrote:
  
  Every person that's in serious business is pro-Israel or pro-Arabs. It depends where he's standing. So if you know where Obama's standing, you get the correct answer.
  H S Reply :
  Idiot's make stupid comments.
  Posted 4 d
  
  Yes I just look like my picture. And if peace is crap, as you stated above, Yes I'm a peace of crap
  
  And being in a wheel chair doesn't give you the right to be rude an offensive.
  And I wonder... are you looking for pitty? That would be a terrible thing to do, by my standards.
  and all this said I leave with you bitternes alone.
  Have a good day ,sir !
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tksenseiposted 13 years ago
This is why this kind of thing is pointless. The anti-Muslim prejudice we see here is ridiculous, but so is suggesting that Israel would not defend itself.

Ridiculous all around.
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  earnestshubposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I am Inclined to agree tk. A balanced discussion is no more likely here than it is in the many middle east peace talks we have had all over the globe. I would like to see someone attempt it though.
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  egivposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I am not saying they should not defend themselves, but do so proportionately. If I am throwing rocks at you, its not really justified to shoot me a hundred times with a machine gun. I am not arguing that it makes throwing rocks alright...
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  tksenseiposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  If you don't want me to shoot you with my machine gun don't throw rocks at me. If you throw a rock that could kill me you don't get to choose how I respond.
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  egivposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Point taken. However, the conflict is much more complex than that. I don't feel sorry for the Hamas guys firing rockets off hospital roofs, I feel sorry for the hundreds of thousands of civilians in Gaza, whose water and electricity is controlled by Israel, who die in Israeli retribution. Clearly these attacks are not stopping Hamas, yet the civilian death counts are unbelievable. If over a thousand Israelis died in some sort of Arab attack, everyone would go absolutely nuts.
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  tksenseiposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  It certainly is.
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  Harvey Stelmanposted 13 years agoin reply to this
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  Harvey Stelmanposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Very true!
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  Harvey Stelmanposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  What country has ever fought proportionately? They fired 10,000 rockets into Israel.
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Make Moneyposted 13 years ago
Do you think Obama is pro Israel?

Actually I hope Obama listens to the quotes by these Rabbis.

Not the ones in Israel.
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ralwusposted 13 years ago
If anything I think he is pro-American. Why would he be otherwise?
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awsydneyposted 13 years ago
He is pro World
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  aka-djposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  That would make him a globalist. I'll buy that.
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tksenseiposted 13 years ago
Do you know anyone who is anti-world?
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  Mishaposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Anyone who is anti-obama
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  tksenseiposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Oh, right
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  Harvey Stelmanposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Obama is anti-American, wait until they come for you.
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  Mishaposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I personally am not going to wait, I had enough of that crap back in the USSR. I am outta here at the first sign things come to that stage.
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  Harvey Stelmanposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Bye-Bye! I will stay and fight for my country.
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  Mishaposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Good luck. But given what I see around, I am not holding my breath.
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  Harvey Stelmanposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  So now you are against Obama? Where in the USSR are you from, I know many from there. My heritage is from Lithuania and Belarus.
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  Eaglekiwiposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  China owns your country?
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  Harvey Stelmanposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I know! H
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  Army Infantry Momposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Well, If Misha don't let me tag along,..I'd fight right along with you !!! HOOAH !!!
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  Army Infantry Momposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Can I tag along with you ?????? LOL (I make good homemade pizza's)
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tksenseiposted 13 years ago
But would it make him a Globetrotter?
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  aka-djposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  They probably can't afford it. Unless he can handle a basketball REALLY well.
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awsydneyposted 13 years ago
And those who go around blowing up things, including themselves.
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tksenseiposted 13 years ago
He does seem pretty good at it.
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  Harvey Stelmanposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Not really, he played for a crappy school. Oh, did I give out one of his school records? That's a no-no.
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aka-djposted 13 years ago
It must come from handling political hot potatoes!
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tksenseiposted 13 years ago
LOL!
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JTTposted 13 years ago
What makes me most sad is all the ignorant hatred towards Obama. Today I saw a pciture of Obama with a Hitler mustache on him. Really? Really! C'mon!
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  Harvey Stelmanposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Just like the Bush pictures.
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Make Moneyposted 13 years ago
Actually Harvey I was asking video lost what speech he was referring to. Personally I don't care what type of support Obama has in Israel.

Although this article from one of the links you posted is quite compelling, considering the sting operation that went down in New Jersey last month.
http://www.honestreporting.com/articles … Organs.asp
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Make Moneyposted 13 years ago
Harvey if video lost watched Obama's speech to the Muslim World from Cairo, Egypt he wouldn't be saying "that WWIII is gonna start in the near future and the ignition will be primarily from his side".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BlqLwCKkeY

The main points of the speech that I got were that Hamas has to end the violence, Israel has to end the illegal settlements, a push for a two state solution recognizing both Palestine and Israel and he got a big round of applause when he mentioned respect for women. The speech ended with a standing ovation. Sounds like a good start if the parties comply. I think a lot depends on what Israel does.

If it were up to me I would have added to make Jerusalem an international city like it was suppose to be in the 1947 United Nations General Assembly Resolution 181.

Maybe this speech is why Obama is not seen favorably in Israel. Oh well, too bad.

As far as I see it Israel could have had peace long ago if it truly wanted it.
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DonnyBoyposted 13 years ago
The opposite.
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VENUGOPAL SIVAGNAposted 13 years ago
Israel is a very small nation, surrounded by more than ten hostile countries, ready to finisg it off. It is struggling for its own existence. Their tragic experiences during the Hitler period is more than a genocide. It is the responsibility of all nations to ensure its safety and existence. Obama, in particular America's foreign policy is based on helping Israel's existence.
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  egivposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  It's nice when someone says something that actually makes sense on this forum without needing to say something sensationalist, provocative, or ignorant.
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  Mishaposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  We definitely have different understanding of what makes sense and what does not. Basing one country's foreign policy on helping another country existence does not make even a tad of sense to me.
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  VENUGOPAL SIVAGNAposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Whenever a country's existence is at risk, it is common that its friends will come their aid. We cannot, and should not sacrifice a whole social group (Jews) in the name of helping "another country".
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  blue dogposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  well, he/she/it did say that "america's foreign policy is based on helping israel's existence."
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SweetiePieposted 13 years ago
I know we are allies with Israel, but the whole thing I find interesting is the high acceptance of dual Israeli-US citizens over others. They can come and go between Israeli as they please, serve in the Israeli army, yet no one questions their patriotism to the US. People I know that are dual Pakistani/US citizens would not be treated with the same esteem, and yes I have seen this.
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VENUGOPAL SIVAGNAposted 13 years ago
Israel's importance should be based on two basic facts.
1. Oil: If and when petroleum / oil is blocked by the Arab countries, Israel is the only reliable platform from where the oil supply can be restored and ensured.

2. Suez canal: If and when the Suez canal is blocked by Arab countries, the international shipping will be hit hard as the only way is to come around Africa, taking weeks together.

Israel is the only guarantee for the entire free world for trade and oil supplies.
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tksenseiposted 13 years ago
People can be dual US-Pakistani citizens.
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Make Moneyposted 13 years ago
They don't seem to get to hold these types of jobs in the US though tksensei.
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  tksenseiposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Which jobs? Don't ask me to read an anti-semitic website, just tell me.
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  Make Moneyposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  That has to be the most inaccurate overused term in the English language. I suppose you think these Rabbis are anti-semitic as well because they believe the state of Israel is a blasphemy in the eyes of God?
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  tksenseiposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  And there it is...
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  SweetiePieposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  That is my point exactly. I know people who have immigrated from Pakistan and Iran and they are very patriotic to the US and have been here for over twenty years. They have no intentions of going back to their countries because they do not like the politics, but often people question their loyalty because of their last names and background.
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  tksenseiposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Which people "question their loyalty because of their last names and background"?
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Is Obama Pro-Israel? NO!
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  video lostposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  YES
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  A Texanposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  NO!
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  video lostposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  *** Y E S ***
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  A Texanposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  NOPE!
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earnestshubposted 13 years ago
What a sad picture of paranoia!
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  video lostposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Again, you proved yourself to be from DARK AGES
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  earnestshubposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  No, people who put together conspiracy theories out of a few spoken words are seriously in the dark. Afraid of situations that only exist in their own frightened minds.
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imadorkposted 13 years ago
No
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BJCposted 13 years ago
Not a chance. At a dinner in Washington on September 1st, 2009, Bama Boy hosted a dinner in Washington praising the Muslim community. BTW, the dinner was to celebrate the Islamic month of Ramadam.
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  Uninvited Writerposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Just so you should know:
  
  http://www.voanews.com/english/archive/ … 5-voa1.cfm
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  BJCposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Informative link - thanks!
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  Harvey Stelmanposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Don't be fooled; "It's not what he says, it's what he does." Charles Krauthammer
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  video lostposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Obama is a name sake Muslim not the true one, he is truely a deceiver
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  Harvey Stelmanposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Thank you, you understand more than most of the people here.
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  Harvey Stelmanposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Thank you for living in reality.
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earnestshubposted 13 years ago
Obama is a christian.
I will try not to hold that against him.
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  Harvey Stelmanposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  He was brought up a Muslim and moved to a Christian community (his mom dumped him on her parents) for politics being a Christian is good in politics.
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  SweetiePieposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  He was born in the United States. A few years later his mom did move to Indonesia, but that does not mean he was raised a Muslim. Even though Obama is a Christian her can actually point out that there are problematic passages in the Bible. Many of us Christians actually question things in he Bible, but I know those who interpret literally do not.
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  video lostposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Agreed,
  
  there are grave mistakes in Bibles, part of it may be a word of God but the whole stuff, NOT AT ALL especially the pornographic one.
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  video lostposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Ok, take it, we do not need Obama kind of rubbish.
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gandalfthegreyposted 13 years ago
He says he is. I wouldn't expect The President of The United States to lie...? He has a firm grip on the Worldwide Political situation, especially with regards to The Middle East. I empathize with all the inhabitants of that tortured part of this World, to many innocents have been lost.
The political leaders on all sides have to desire peace. Obama will push for peace to the extent he is able, unfortunately you have Iran, Syria and a number of other players in the region with their own agendas, all to willing to fight a War in someone else's country. Opposition to The U.S. being their driving force.
Obama has a history of support for Israel, I suspect like every American President, he realizes the strategic importance of the region. He is also accutely aware of the tragic recent and past History of The Jewish people.
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Colebabieposted 13 years ago
There's porn in the Bible... man, I need to buy one.
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  video lostposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Genesis 38:11
  
  Genesis 38:16-18
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  Colebabieposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I looked it up. That isn't porn.
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  video lostposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Then what is it ???
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  Colebabieposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Umm a dude who slept with his daughter-in-law and knocked her up.
  That's Jerry Springer stuff... not porn.
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  video lostposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  That's a written porn
  
  The PLAIN TRUTH October 1977 describes it as follows.
  
  Reading Bible stories to children can also open up all sorts of opportunities to discuss the morality of sex. An unexpurgated
  Bible might get an X-rating from some censors,
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Colebabieposted 13 years ago
I'm sorry, have you never seen/read porn? Saying that two people had sex and she got pregnant does not make the text porn. If it did, then you just read porn.
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  video lostposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  a bikini is a porn for me but not for you. Now that's your problem
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  Colebabieposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Not a problem And if you look up the definition of porn, it isn't porn either.
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  video lostposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  the definition is written by Freemasons and Zionists. They also play with their definitions. By the way what is the definition of porn ???
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Colebabieposted 13 years ago
Why does it matter to you, they're written by Freemasons and Zionists remember?
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  video lostposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Because we, the whole world, is suffering from their sickness.
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Colebabieposted 13 years ago
keep thinking that
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  video lostposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  it's a fact
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  Colebabieposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  no. it's your belief. get to know the difference. it'll open your eyes.
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  video lostposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  so, you tell me the difference, if they are not then who is behind all this tyranny and rubbish ???
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  Colebabieposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  what tyranny and rubbish? porn? not rubbish to me. I happen to enjoy it.
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  video lostposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  ok, go ahead, enjoy it.
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  Colebabieposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Thanks, I will
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  video lostposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  But you must bear in mind that it's forbiden by Allah to enjoy illegitimate sex.
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earnestshubposted 13 years ago
Good thing it is all a myth then eh?
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Colebabieposted 13 years ago
Oh its legit. Trust me.
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  video lostposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Yes it (sex) is legitimate but only after following the domains (specified by Allah) of marriage.
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  Colebabieposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Well I'm not Islamic, so that doesn't apply to me.
  See according to what I believe in, I'm allowed to have pre-marital sex. And you said that even if I didn't believe what you believe (in Allah) that you would respect me. So please respect my ability to have pre-marital sex. Okay? Thanks.
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  video lostposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Yes, i respect you but i will always prompt you about this wrong act.
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SweetiePieposted 13 years ago
Just to share, but some of the most horny and desperate guys on the MSN messenger are from Islamic countries. You start talking to some of them and all they talk about are if you have a webcam and can show them something, something.
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Colebabieposted 13 years ago
Everyone's horny at some point. If you say you aren't, you're lying.
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  SweetiePieposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Yes everyone is, but most guys on the messenger from non-Islamic countries do not bring up sex within the first five minutes of conversation. There is quite a bit of research about how the repression of Islamic culture has created the Internet culture, and men in those countries do go online to find gratification.
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  Colebabieposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I see how that could be true. Denied it in reality, so you seek virtually.
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  video lostposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Muslims are not allowed for it even virtually. i dont do it
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Colebabieposted 13 years ago
I'm asking you not to. It isn't your place. Thanks.
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earnestshubposted 13 years ago
I feel pretty sure that the puritan ethic creates sexual monsters too.

I recently saw a woman on stage with an obviously muslim man sitting behind her.
He did not make any direct eye contact, but devoured her body with his eyes in such a way as to make me feel sick to my stomach!
The other men never gave her a second glance, except to look at her face when they spoke to her. I see the same thing with zealots in my own country. the reason these extremists shout their view is because if they were in a position with a woman that we western males are in every day, they would attack the woman. This hate of sex is all projection!
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