What would you do if this happened to you and/or your child?
A 13 year old boy was pulled out of class and questioned without his mother's knowledge or presence, by the Secret Service in connection with a FB posting where he warned the president he should be careful now that Bin Laden is dead since there may be more suicide bombers ready to attack. The Secret Service claim that the boy is considered a threat to the President because of those statements.
I was really upset by this event. I believe I would have had to involve an attorney and possibly the ACLU. That child certainly didn't write anything threatening. It was more of a plea for the President to be careful of his safety. It just goes to show how the government is monitoring all forms of speech patterns. I guess it's now illegal to say the words suicide bombers and president in the same sentence, paragraph, or maybe even an entire written piece. What a bunch of losers our taxpayer money is being used to support.
what should bother people the most is how "the land of the free" is no longer a reality.
I guess the Secret Team did not get any real proof, thus blamed the innocent boy. On the other hand, he's just 13, how can he know this thing is right or wrong.. As far as I see here, the boy was just praying/warning (not the negative sense) the president to take extra care of the country. If you see some question-answers sites, you'll see thousands of these words stated at the same time, and some words are even worse. May be the Secret Team should try to catch them instead!!
After some reflection it seems to me that they probably thought the boy may have had some information he wasn't telling.Perhaps because of a personal involvement .maybe someone he knew but was afraid to say exactly what would be a possible threat to the president is the only reasonably possible explanatiion.At,least that's how I see it.
Nothing. What would anyone do against the government? Thats so wrong as an act but who knows maybe the services have their reason. Its not about the boys age, connections might be still a fact or the child might be heard something somewhere. I think the boy will be released and will not be pursuit. Its sad anyway. But thats the world we`re all living in.
I am sorry to hear this. The secret service and many police officers think they are above the law.
I think it wise to know a good attorney. Most people don't know they have the right not to speak to the police if they don't want to.
They can turn your words against you and accuse of a crime that you did not commit.
Depends on the overall feel of his message, i was also worried about possible backlash as well. Kids today, especially at that age write down thier feelings on FB faster than they can actually think about possible ramifications. I truely dont think the secret service should have made it such a priority. I mean dont they have better things to do.
I would, if it were my child. Have a discussion about cause and effect. I wouldnt go any further, it sounds a bit ludacris.
I wouldn't be thrilled, but I'd understand it. If people post certain words/phrases on the Internet (especially if they're in connection with the president), they're likely to catch the attention of FBI people "scouting out" (however they do it) certain words/phrases.
Pull my child from that school. Contact every newspaper. Write to every congressman, including the CIC and Michelle. Contact the superintendent of that school. The boy is a minor. To accost a child without parental consent is so far out of line, its not even funny. Just think people they're flagging everyone, no one is exempt. It woulwould be very interesting to find out if the parents are politically involved in the Tea Party or anything. Worst part is, is if it makes even one person quit expressing their views because they fear their government......well then folks, we have entered a new era, and it would not be good, not good at all.
I would be so startled, and it's seem like we all are on the watch in the eyes of the government.
It depends on whether it actually happened or not.
If so, they have already done this - you can't turn back time. Your position is a question of whether you want to stop them from being supported by the legal system in doing it again.
This is just insanely stupid for lack of a better phrase. I just can't believe how insane things are becoming in this country. He is a child and his rights were violated for no good reason. Are we seriously expected as citizens ( who are honestly in charge of this country as much as they think they are) to sit down and let this happen? I mean if there is a reasonable threat by all means do what needs to be done but perhaps they should hire someone who has some common sense to mix things up a bit, huh?
There's not enough information given in your question to make a rational judgement about this.... for example, the 13 year old child might have the name Ali Bin Laden... or maybe he was giving tips, in a previous message, on how to make home-made explosives....
I could tell you that I've been importing arms into Ireland from America..... but it wouldn't make me guilty of gun-running if I explained that I was a sales rep for a prosthetic limb company.
More detail.... less ambiguity!!
sometimes people who works in military or spy or something like that, always act hyper reactive. If i were that boy, i'll answer "Is it means that i care for my president living,isn't it? Is it wrong if I care to my own president,sir?"
I would make sure that my son understood that making comments like that might pique the interest of the Secret Service. Although the comments may be not considered a threat the Secret Service may want to question my son. I would want to be present though.
I am appalled by the paranoia this country has developed. He is only thirteen. He would not have the resources to carry out an attack. I understand we as a country should be afraid now more than ever, and believe me, I am terrified, but to question a young boy over a Facebook post that was probably meant as a joke? And to do it without his mother present? That is preposterous, and plain silly.
A minor should never be questioned alone, never in any instance. I can only imagine how terrified a child would be in that situation. I didn't hear about this story, but the FBI really is monitoring FB and pulling kids out of classrooms?? How about arresting the crack dealers and rapists on the street corners? That should be easier and use less tax payer money.
I agree the paranoia is scary, and so is the lack of freedom we have. This is on a global scale and something needs to be done.
I would get in touch with the person in charge and ask him to explain the rationale
I would have a holy fit about this one. First of all they need to be contacting me as the parent first and getting permission. By law you cannot interview a juvenile without parent consent or at least a parent present at which time they are also allowed an attorney if charges are being filed. If charges are not being filed they do not even have a right to interview the child. I would also go after the school district that allowed such a thing to happen without my being called.
Personally, I don't think there is anything wrong with asking questions. Its the way that the Secret Service does this kind of stuff that is alarming. And of all things, a little kid? One of thousands who probably posted something similar? I really don't think the Secret Service should be spending so much time facebook stalking little kids! Haha!
Our own government is trying to terrify us, pure and simple. If enough people are terrified of so-called terrorists, the government will be able to "swoop in" and save us with all sorts of laws passed "for our protection." It keeps happening. Fascism keeps happening..
i would be furious . this is clearly a violation of our constitutional rights and our freedoms .
it's high time we regain control of our country and take action to stop those in office from runing riot in america
after all it is we the people that are the true Gov't and those in office who are our workers , not our rulers .
yeaaa... gotta love free speech. You know it's a little ridiculous that you can threaten anyone you want, but if it's the President, then watch the heck out. What a load.
Wow! Are you serious? I'd be ticked off for sure! Was it his own fb account? Did they know his age? In truth, if they did, and even if they didn't, there are some treacherous 13 year olds these days; and yes, some could be a threat. I think they probably were doing the standard thing they do to protect the president, but at the same time, if they were going to question an under aged child; you, as the parent, should have been notified first; so at the very least you could be present, or have legal representation present for him. Technically, if they thought that he said something worthy of charging him with, they would be in violation of his Miranda rights. Just the fact that they questioned him in this manner, says to me, Miranda violation, because he would have to be informed of his rights to representation, and if he wasn't...that sounds like a lawsuit to me.
Unfortunately, in this situation, every threat has to be taken as serious. It is very unlikely that the 13 year old posed or poses any threat to the President. However, if they let their guard down for anyone or anything, they risk tragedy striking. Al Qaeda appears to be a very convincing force. Children are often some of the most easily persuaded individuals on the planet. Just because it is a child, doesn't rule him/her out. The secret service was simply doing their job. Should they have waited for the mother? That is debatable. These matters generally require urgent attention and sitting around and waiting isn't considered an efficient use of ones time. With respect to the treatment of the child, that is a different story. Obviously, the child should be treated as one. The secret service should not be overly harsh and should employ milder methods to get to the truth. 99% of the time, this will simply be a joke or an attention hog. The problem is the other 1%. They must always be prepared for anything. Terrorists sure don't leave anything to chance. Why should the secret service? It simply leaves them open to attack.
Honestly the boy speak coz alot of bomb will start coming up.
Bin laden has many follower where the security service can't do anythings, this show the people should always be in ready.
I would inform my child (or be aware, myself) that this is the era in which we live. Be honest and answer accordingly. If we have nothing to hide, this will be reavealed.
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