he didn't say he was proud. He said it was a myth. And is understandable if you know that Iran and Israel are constantly on war.
The world should never forget what happened to the Jews in WW2 or any other inhumane acts in history. Denying such things damages our collective humanity and is totally insensitive to all those who lost loved ones. "Our primary purpose in this life is to help others. And if you can't help them at least don't hurt them" - Dalai Lama.
so don't hurt them !!!
It certainly is. How can Iranians take this clown seriously? Or don't they have any choice?
I agree Earnest, how can any Iranian tolerate this, especialy the millions or so with education.
Jon in Nashville
I saw most of the news I think. I did not necessarily believe all of it though.
What are you saying tk?
I was referring to Iranians protesting bogus elections being shot down in the streets. So the answer is that it seems they don't have much of a choice.
They don't have a choice. The election of Ahmedinejad to a second term was clearly rigged. In fact, Ahmedinejad's second inauguration was THE FIRST TIME that Iran's ex-presidents chose to stay away.
What worries me is all the Iranians who do not hate anyone.
There would be millions of them probably.
It is pretty hard to shut everyone down morally, but it would be a scary place to speak your mind.
arab minds don't work as ours.Bad press is what make this countries look that bad. And us don't understanding their beliefs and ethics and morals.
That is an irresponsible and bigoted comment. Disgraceful.
So you are saying that culture and upbringing plays no part in a way that a person thinks?
Did it look like I was saying that?
I was saying that Arabs are not alien creatures whose "minds don't work as ours," whoever "our" is supposed to be. Dehumanization is reserved for sworn enemies in the midst of mortal struggle. If you, or anyone else, considers all Arabs as your sworn enemy then that is your rather considerable problem.
Cultural differences don't mean people can't understand each other and pretending they do is a particularly transparent ploy for those who don't want to.
Yes, it did look like you were saying that.
<no personal attacks>
Next time I see the Samoyed I'll just keep scrolling down so I don't have to see the inane questions and off-topic rantings of a sophist.
Intelligent people don't need explanations. the prove is darkside & misha interpreted what I meant. <text removed - no personal attacks in the Forums.> But I will take the trouble to explain to you, my child.
'Our mind' : occidental <western
Theirs :oriental< eastern
Different cultures, different upbringing
For your record, I like arab people and understand them. If you don't THAT'S YOUR PROBLEM!
And I'm not American. and I'm happy not to be. Thank you
If you think Iranians are Arabs, you need to work on the understanding a bit more. They aren't.
Sure they do. You just have to find their analogs in your society. There's little difference in the though processes of a Christian Fundamentalist and an Islamic one. They get their cues from different belief systems, sure, but at their base they both believe that a written holy book is the only star to which you orient your life.
One man in a government is a Holocaust denier. You can't by any stretch of the imagination say that because Ahmadinejad is a Holocaust denier that the entire Iranian population is. When it's all said and done people are individuals and you can't make too many broad assertions about them. Well you can, but you'd be wrong.
I've never seen someone so close minded as fishskinfreak2008. Really !!!!!and before with the post about Caster Semenya. Please !!!
Having read fishinfreaks profile, I am very suprised that he finds himself being so judgemental. As somebody who has had so many apparent problems himself, I would have thought that he would be more understanding of the problems facing others.
I don't judge. If he likes to be that way... I gave my opinion. And yes, I read his profile before. If he can publish more than 300 hubs, he's fit for a debate.
Im not saying that he is not fit for a debate tantrum, I am saying that I am very suprised that he is so judgemental against those facing hardship when he has faced so many of his own. E.g. Caster Semenya. I am actually backing your corner.
I think you grossly misinterpreted Tantrum TK. I don't see what you see.
Definitely not the best wording, but you are taking it out of context, he explained his point further...
Just an example that Arab minds don't work as American minds:
Talking of cultures, Arabs make up only a tiny percentage of the Iranian population - most of them are Farsi, Azerbajani and Kurds
Farsi is the Iranian language. So it's arab. the rest live in arab territory and as you say are different cultures.
Oh Tantrum. It's Persian, and they ARE different from Arabs
Persian is arab nowadays Persia doesn't exist anymore
Eskimos<America, therefore they do not exist.
Kurds<Iran, therefore they do not exist, etc.
That's not what I said. As I stated above, common people call all that area 'arab'. And eskimos exists, even Alaska is a part of USA. So ? I don't understand you
LOL They are Persian, and they identify themselves as Persian, this is what matters And if most American and European people are ignorant of this, you do not have to contribute to it, especially considering your rants about American ignorance
So do you know the different ethnics and tribes of Africa, their languages and religious beliefs, or do you call all that area african ?
Absolutely not. Yet I do not pretend to have opinion on their intra-tribe relations
Oh, but I definitely can tell Ethiopians, they are different. That said, there could be several ethnicities within Ethiopia, too
I can always spot a Somalian, and often a Nigerian..... but I seem to have a knack for that. I have even correctly guessed peoples origins to a UK city before.... without them opening their mouths. Especially people from Liverpool and Newcastle, can often spot them quickly....
People from Britain can often spot somebody from Russia or eastern Europe too...... doesn't matter where you are from or the colour of your skin, we almost all have certain characteristics which show our heritage I think....
I noticed that, too - when I lived in the South, people do look different. I suppose that this is an example of the complexity - my nationality is English. However, my ethnicity is not - in the North West, we are mainly Nordic rather than Saxon.
exploits that reeks to heavens awwwwwwwwwwwww, what an inhumane remarks...
Holocaust killed millions and a hurled remarks like that from a leader will definitely spur anger as this is uncalled for...
Welcome to the world !! anger is here to stay. Blame it on the oil if you want. Of course they hate you americans! and i'm sorry. But that's all there is. Not commenting further as I'm not american. I don't lack respect for other countries and their citizens.
There is nothing intelligent with massive murders and making nasty remarks about this... this is not an anger but a show of ignorance and barbaric ways of life... low life that is... hehehe...
what do you have to say about this
The sooner the better this clown is out of office, I couldn't believe it when he was re-ellected. It's no wonder the middle-east is in such a bad condition if they elect people of his stature.
such ignorant replies amaze me I'm sorry for brainwashed people I'm not commentong anymore.
Hmmm we're not talking about if someone is American or not here, this thread is about Holocaust don't jump out of the fence... besides the veracity of what you have had spammed is not yet proven...
you are so base I can't believe it. I'm saying I'm not american Because I don't
I come from a third world country so I know what I'm talking about.
You come from 'the american dream' that more than a dream is a nightmare. shame you're so brainwahed ,you can't see reality. And this is my last word.
Hehehe you see I'm not a robot, my judgement is fair and square and I dont want to say about the ways of the Arabs and bad things about 'em for I have no right to say that... but you've just shown racism here and you just hurled the Americans a racial slur... What a pity...
And oh how I wish you'll not be flagged with your remarks here hehehe...
Now whose lacking in judgement and who is biased hehehe you're eating your words buddy...
the above are your words:'but you've just shown racism here and you just hurled the Americans a racial slur... What a pity...'
I've not been offensive. I'm sure you hope someone flags me. And I'm not racist at all! I have a lot of american friends that think just the way I do. Are they racists too?
And America is not a free country ? Can't I have my say ?
you're way out of reason. I'm sorry if you don't understand !
We feel things, we all bleed, we all cry, we all love - no matter what we say, we all feel and it is better to feel LOVE than it is to feel HATE - that is universal wouldn't you agree - (my own words!)
Okay buddy... maybe I'm just tired...
Good day to you buddy...
We have our own principle and oftentimes we fought hard to protect 'em...
Oh Tantrum, take a break, you did get offensive here. It really does not help your message a tiny bit...
Along the several posts. There were no personal attacks but blanket statements that immediately put people on a defensive, and they don't hear you any more
I apologize for my offensive comments. Sorry if someone felt touched
I don't care if nobody listens. It's up to them.
I have an audience out of here, so it's all right by me.
I don't care for personal attacks.
all attacks are welcome.
I like good fights.
I'm not afraid of saying what I think
I hate censorship
Oh For God Sake ! It is recorded in History who were those people dumped in big holes? Rag dolls? My friend's mom also stays with us full-time she is Jewish, 80 years old and lived through the bombings of London her parents family members were sent to concentration camps and murdered by the Nazis in Poland and Lithuania it is not a Facid it is real! Ignorance can be blind.
Still a distinct Persian ethnicity - the Farsi culture goes back at least as far as the Greek, and they have a long and proud history.
Calling a Persian an Arab is a bit like calling a Greek a Turk.
Sure, although it is sadly incorrect - throw in the Sunni/Shi'a divide and it becomes even more complex.
An interesting part of the world.
Mind you, back to the original point, the President of Iran is a complete divvy
Not a particularly good example - The Africans that I have met are happy to call themselves African, in the same way that I am happy to call myself a European.
This does not make a Zulu the same as a Masai, a Greek the same as an Englishman, or a Persian into an Arab.
Always very complex, though - is Misha a Russian, a European (if born west of the Urals), or both?
He is deserving of his own nationality, a Mishanian
When someone says ther's hunger in Africa, We know that maybe he's talking of Somalia
When someone says there is this problen with arabs and their oil, maybe he's talking about Irak.
That's what I mean
LOL Were did we start, again? I think I don't remember, for a life of me
It is a crying shame to see the great energy, intelligence, and potential of the Iranian people covered by a blanket of cartoonishly blatant oppression.
I think it is a crying shame to see the great energy, intelligence, and potential of the American people covered by a blanket of cartoonishly blatant oppression.
A pebble in your shoe is annoying and can cause injury if you leave it there long enough, but you can stop and shake it out when you've had enough.
A boulder on your head can crush you, and you can't remove it without a lot of help.
Now i am trying to contemplate - having America on one hand, and Iran on another - which better fits a pebble, and which - boulder?
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