Was the killing of Bin Laden right even if illegal under international law ?

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   Joe Cookposted 12 years ago

   Was the killing of Bin Laden right even if illegal under international law ?
   
   The killing of Bin Laden is now being described as illegal & extra-judicial under international & military law.  It's widely agreed Bin Laden had become a shambling, lonely, powerless shadow of his previous self - if true - then why didn't the US take into account it's international responsibilities as "Killing a captive who poses no immediate threat is a crime under military law and other law".  Does the US have right to supersede international law if it suits its agenda? Can we all break such laws?  Did we insult 9/11 victims by not forcing Bin Laden to face real justice in court of law?

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   Panzer Kumarposted 12 years ago

   If you ask me, even torturing him to death would have been right.. He deserved even worse and cruel death than the one he faced. Bring him back home would have been almost impossible as our honorable ally has sheltered him(you would like to say other wise but that's true) though they pretended searching him along with us. So it would have been impossible to get access to him through Pakistani officials, and having said that it would have been almost impossible for them to hand him over for there are lots of radicals within Pakistan who still see him as an Icon.
   
   And with that all said even if there was a chance to do so, i think he doesn't deserve an honorable death under laws and humanity for those who dont respect humanity and innocent life never deserve any mercy. And if we give them such things then even god won't be merciful on us.... Long live humanity and liberty. And death to "Terrorists and Terrorism"

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      Joe Cookposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      So just to be certain on this Panzer, you are saying we should have tortured him to death?  And you have the gall to proclaim 'long live humanity'?  Outrageous.

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      JThomp42posted 12 years agoin reply to this

      @ Joe So now you are deleting comments that prove you wrong. If you are going to do this? Don't ask questions in the first place.

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      Joe Cookposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      No JT I've deleted a comment that calls for the slow burning to death of another human being.  In this country, saying such a thing is illegal, morally wrong and contrary to the spirit of humanity.  Your mother would be ashamed. Wash your mouth out.

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      JThomp42posted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Illegal? What happened to the freedom of speech? By the way, I was correct about the radical muslims. This is why the whole muslim world cheered. Al Queida was a radical muslim terrorist organization.

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      Joe Cookposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      JT I'm in the UK. We don't have freedom of speech but instead anti hatred laws that prevent zealots & the religious right (you) from calling for murder. You call yourself a Christian!  What would Jesus your saviour say about you calling for tortu

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      JThomp42posted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Yes, I am a christian. But, I am also human and fail him many times. This is a VERY TOUCHY subject for all of Americans.

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      Joe Cookposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      You have a funny way of being a christian JT. Murder, Torture, Burning men alive. What next?

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      JThomp42posted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Joe, You have no right to judge me as SO MANY MUSLIMS HATE!!!!! This is just something I am passionate about. David, The apple of God's eye sinned, But we are forgiven.

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   JThomp42posted 12 years ago

   In my opinion, He got what he less deserved. Look at how many lives his organization claimed. Sitting in his cowardly "Hideout" watching as almost 3000 of our fellow Men/and Women burned to their death. And loving it like a GREAT MOVIE. DID HE DESERVE WHAT HE GOT? NO!! He deserved much worse than the quick death that was given him. They should have burned him alive like he did so many others on 9/11. If the whole non-muslim world wasn't relieved when we got him? Then why hasn't there been legal action? It will never happen. What do you think would happen if an American did this to a muslim Country? They would be screaming for jihad and you know this. You only hate what you fear. Americans do not hate muslims. Muslims hate Americans. The writing is on the wall.

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      Joe Cookposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      They should have burned him alive?  Christ almighty - how does crazed vengeance serve the victims of 9/11?  P.S.  Muslims had nothing to do with 9/11 just monsters using the name of Islam.

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      Panzer Kumarposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      So what's your point Joe Cook? do you want him to be elected or selected as UN  Secretary or appoint him as humanity development authority?? But as far as Islam is concern its just a peaceful religion just like Christianity or Hindustan.

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      JThomp42posted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Yes Panzer, There are radicals in all religion.

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      Joe Cookposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Panzer I'm suggesting he should have faced justice in a court of law. If we torture him or kill him painfully / slowly how does that distinguish us from the likes of him?  "UN Secretary"?  Bizarre.

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      JThomp42posted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Joe, That was an impossibility. He did not deserve to be Martyred.

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      Joe Cookposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Yes Panzer there are radicals in all religions - there are even some 'Christians' who call for the slow burning of men to death!

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      JThomp42posted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Joe, You are not my judge. God (Jehovah) is. And he will forgive me if I have said anything wrong in this conversation. Will allah forgive the muslims that carried out 9/11?

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      Panzer Kumarposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      @JThomp42:I agree with you.infact Allah too preached peace and love but some people take it in their hands. And for Joe Cook: Pakistanis had sheltered and they didnt even accepted that, so he was killed( that too coz he resisted arrest with his gun.)

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      ptosisposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      IF you are an American citizen and your faith is in Islam - would that person be self hating?  Your answer sucks. It such a naive all- or nothing world view - it's pitiful.

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       lone77starposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       @JThomp42 you judge Osama? And America is guiltless? And what if Rockefellers and Bush White House did 9/11? Osama said he didn't do it. So all this Muslim bashing might have been a convenient distraction to keep us from seeing the true darkness

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       JThomp42posted 12 years agoin reply to this

       Al Quida claimed full responsibility. This is a known fact. And yes the almost 3,000 lives were guiltless.

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   whonunuwhoposted 12 years ago

   Killing anyone by a government and for that government's leaders to come on television and proclaim that we did this and rightfully so, is absolutely wrong and immoral. No matter what that individual did, all  the action that this country did was just as bad in murder.Other family was also killed in the process. Capturing the evil one and putting him on trial and then delivering just punishment by law would have been the best action.

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      JThomp42posted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Would you have want him martyred for what he did to so many?

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      whonunuwhoposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      What happens even at the highest levels, when we throw justice out the window and do not give thugs a fair trial, despite our painful memories of what they did?

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      JThomp42posted 12 years agoin reply to this

      That's exactly what we did to this "WORLD" terrorist. And I think it was the right thing. Peace!

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      lone77starposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Good @who. @JThomp42, and killing him wouldn't martyr him? Interesting! But 9/11 was an inside job. Just look at the proof. Those pesky tons of iron microspheres in the 9/11 dust.

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      JThomp42posted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Agree to disagree. I just can't wrap my mind around that one?

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   cat on a soapboxposted 12 years ago

   Moral vs. legal issues are always difficult , and people are ruled by emotions. That said, why should we be concerned if a person who blatantly ignored international law by massacre is killed within its parameters???

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   ptosisposted 12 years ago

   Why didn't the US take into account it's international responsibilities?  Because US is the empire and we can get away with it without repercussions.
   
   Still waiting for Henry Kissinger's arrest  for his war crimes - but he simply does not  travel to certain countries.
   
   http://www.zpub.com/un/wanted-hkiss.html

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   cesargealogoposted 12 years ago

   Killing is sometime a good solution to problem but killing Bin Laden cannot give a solution to our dilemma today.

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   Ranziposted 12 years ago

   I think killing one bin laden will create another 1000 more vengeful just like him.

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   lone77starposted 12 years ago

   America has become bloodthirsty. That's ego with horns.
   
   Obama has his "Kill List" which includes American citizens. Judge Napolitano decried Obama's statement that anyone at Gitmo who is found innocent should be kept there indefinitely! So, innocence doesn't count anymore.
   
   America is dead! Long live the Evil Empire of America.
   
   Osama bin Laden did do some awful things, but he did not admit to doing 9/11. In fact, he was quite specific that he didn't do those things. Someone supposedly admitted to it 3 years later. But was it Osama or a look-alike?
   
   Osama should have been given a trial. But perhaps American politicians and generals should be put on trial for their crimes, too.
   
   Perhaps the Rockefellers should be held accountable for 9/11.
   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GaOj-rOGZFE
   
   Osama did 9/11? Really?
   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmbPh3u7_q0
   
   If you have never heard of "false flag" operations, I suggest you look it up. If you have never heard of Operation Northwoods, you should see what America's generals can think up to kill Americans to forward political goals.
   
   And now democracy is dead and we celebrate the death of our current boogie man, Osama.
   
   RNC Scripted:
   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKaXqoC4DjE
   
   DNC Scripted:
   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmaE2Aez_XY
   
   Don't lament democracy. We should be a republic, but the republic has been dead for some time.
   
   I'm against killing anyone. Life is precious. Our God wants us to have every opportunity to come back to Him. But even some Christians forget this and think that they are Homo sapiens instead of spiritual children of the Most High.

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