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If you're a liberal, ask yourself, why?

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    sneakorocksolidposted 7 years ago

    Look around at the company you keep their a mess! They want "Waldens Pond" even though it's been proven it will never work! It's not fair that the less motivated recieve the same rewards as those who have earned success. If you've learned anything about basic survival get off your ass and quit whining and get to work!

    1. Will Apse profile image94
      Will Apseposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Some of us liberals are too busy to watch Walden's Pond (assuming it's some idiot TV program). Perhaps you could give us an outline. You seem to have time on your hands.

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        cosetteposted 7 years agoin reply to this

        wasn't that that show where everybody had double names and it took a hundred years to say goodnight to each other?

        1. AdsenseStrategies profile image77
          AdsenseStrategiesposted 7 years agoin reply to this

          No, I think it's the one with Henry Fonda

          1. Mitch Rapp profile image61
            Mitch Rappposted 7 years agoin reply to this

            Peter Fonda certainly is a liberal or at least he used to be.

      2. Mitch Rapp profile image61
        Mitch Rappposted 7 years agoin reply to this

        Some conservatives want to know as well.

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      Writer Riderposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      I'm a liberal because I don't like lies, deceit, and selfishness (though there are some in the movement that are).

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      rhamsonposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      If you have to ask this question why bother.  You have prejudged and categorized a group of people by identifying them as outside your realm of thinking and discarded their value based on it.

      You have totally played into the political design of the two parties by polarizing your and others views and therefore eliminating any compromise. 

      I try to think of myself as a centerist but many shoot that down because they have lost the ability or will to understand the others point or opinion.  By doing so you have become a tool of the system and invariably will be in the way instead of helping the situation.

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    cosetteposted 7 years ago

    ...and your little dog too! big_smile

    http://protoplasm.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/wicked-witch.jpg

  3. Mitch Rapp profile image61
    Mitch Rappposted 7 years ago

    What is Waldens pond?

    1. Arthur Fontes profile image84
      Arthur Fontesposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      A book by Thoreau one of my favorites. Also a beautiful pond in Massachusetts good book and great pond. 
      Wait a minute I am not a liberal.

    2. Ron Montgomery profile image60
      Ron Montgomeryposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      lol

  4. TheGlassSpider profile image73
    TheGlassSpiderposted 7 years ago

    *looks at the pond* It's not working? Huh.

  5. AdsenseStrategies profile image77
    AdsenseStrategiesposted 7 years ago

    Adsensestrategies, why are you a liberal?

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    sneakorocksolidposted 7 years ago

    With all the self proclaimed intellectuals here and you don't know about "Waldens Pond"! Shame on you! Heres a clue, it's not a tv show!

    1. Arthur Fontes profile image84
      Arthur Fontesposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      I know! I know!

    2. AdsenseStrategies profile image77
      AdsenseStrategiesposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Sigh. Pretending not to know what something is, is not the same as not knowing what something is... you of ALL forum posters should know this! hmm

      1. Arthur Fontes profile image84
        Arthur Fontesposted 7 years agoin reply to this

        I still win though right?

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    Arthur Fontesposted 7 years ago

    Hey I am not an intoolectual either.

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    cosetteposted 7 years ago

    i know about Walden's Pond. i just don't know how that applies to so-called liberals. don't conservatives appreciate nature too?

  9. Will Apse profile image94
    Will Apseposted 7 years ago

    One of the saddest interviews I read was when David Mamet said he could no longer think of himself as a liberal because he could no longer believe that people were basically good. He had reached a point where he believed people were liers, cheats, malicious at heart and needed to treated as dangerous.

    http://www.villagevoice.com/2008-03-11/ … d-liberal/

    1. Mitch Rapp profile image61
      Mitch Rappposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Liberals idea of compassion or "good" is creating a dependent class, I can't see someone never advancing in life as "good"

    2. TheGlassSpider profile image73
      TheGlassSpiderposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Wow. That is disheartening. Made me a little sad to read that post.

      What's worse is that tiny little whisper deep in my heart almost agrees.

      *Screams* "Fight the sadness Artex!! Noooooo"

      1. Will Apse profile image94
        Will Apseposted 7 years agoin reply to this

        There are still communites that instill believe in virtues like unselfisness,empathy with the less privileged, respect for others,loyalty to ideals but it is an uphill struggle in an atmosphere of consumerism and greed.

        And of course, right wing philosophers promote a view of people as isolated creatures simply trying to get the most that they can from others(game theory etc). To me they are promoting the infant in people- the me me me! As we become more infantile and more isolated sadly we also become more unhappy and more like the creatures David Mamet fears..

        1. Ron Montgomery profile image60
          Ron Montgomeryposted 7 years agoin reply to this

          Game theory has been popping up a lot in discussions lately.  It may be a sign of the appocolypse. wink

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          AdsenseStrategiesposted 7 years agoin reply to this

          But aren't there two sorts of "right wing." There is another sort, which promotes loyalty to one's community, thrift, industry, decency and respect. Unfortunately, right-wingers who promote this sort of Consevatism have been steam-rollered by others... those who prefer to see corporations prosper over small business and entrepreneurship, for example...

          ...It's a hijack

        3. TheGlassSpider profile image73
          TheGlassSpiderposted 7 years agoin reply to this

          Well. I for one vow to hold onto the light as long as I can. And my will is great. smile Are you with me! *roars!* Empathy! Love!

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    cosetteposted 7 years ago

    what do you call it when someone thinks there's good and bad in everyone? that's me.

    1. Arthur Fontes profile image84
      Arthur Fontesposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      The duality of life. For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction.

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        cosetteposted 7 years agoin reply to this

        mhmm.

        of course some people have more bad (or good) in them than others also.

        1. Arthur Fontes profile image84
          Arthur Fontesposted 7 years agoin reply to this

          You eliminate the negative through positive action. Going to the gym, gardening etc...or the opposite conmen, predators

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      livelongerposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      A realist. All but the political fringes believe the same as you.

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    Christeneposted 7 years ago

    It's Walden Pond. Just had to say that as a girl from Massachusetts. Carry on...

    big_smile

    1. Ron Montgomery profile image60
      Ron Montgomeryposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      That's where Doonsebury lived right?

  12. Will Apse profile image94
    Will Apseposted 7 years ago

    I think Mamet slipped from one tribal delusion to another. We aren't obliged to do the same. People are as good as circumstances allow them to be. As societies we need to create the opportunities for individuals to live they can be proud of. Conservative values have a place in that. Right wing hate really doesn't help. Silly sentimental liberals don't help either- though they make far better company.

    1. Mitch Rapp profile image61
      Mitch Rappposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      If you like whining!

    2. livelonger profile image94
      livelongerposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Yes. He's still purging his self-hatred demons (by swinging to the other extreme).

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    cosetteposted 7 years ago

    are those the people with guns who dip snuff and whatnot?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-p51Ic7kgpA

    1. livelonger profile image94
      livelongerposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      That's certainly one (unfortunate) variety. hmm (Not that the snuff-dipping is to blame...)

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    Valerie Fposted 7 years ago

    Might as well ask conservatives to ask themselves why while you're at it. Liberalism and Conservatism are both to blame for a lot of problems, and even if that weren't the case, it's simply a good thing for everyone to question their own views.

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      AdsenseStrategiesposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Amen

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    bgpappaposted 7 years ago

    Compassionate Conservatism at its best.

    You truly know nothing about being a liberal.

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    ralwusposted 7 years ago

    If it's in America, mostly it is all good. Politically speaking. It is the American way. Sure, we have our problems and disagreements, but that is democracy my man. It works.

    1. Ron Montgomery profile image60
      Ron Montgomeryposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Amazingly, that is still true.  To hear some talk you would think we were on the verge of anihilation.

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    ralwusposted 7 years ago

    Ach, well, people tend to get carried away ya know? I have seen a lot and have learned many things, but still America is alive and well, 'cept for our debts. We will get  out of this mess too.

    1. Mitch Rapp profile image61
      Mitch Rappposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      But how much will it cost us?

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    ralwusposted 7 years ago

    It doesn't really matter compared to what the 'greatest' generation went through. I suppose it will be an enormous amount, but look what they did. We can rise above this too.

    1. Mitch Rapp profile image61
      Mitch Rappposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      You got a point

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    ralwusposted 7 years ago

    My god, if one looks at our history, back in the 19th century there was so much corruption in DC. It was cleaned up and then TR had to do some house cleaning as well. Things seem to come in cycles. This too shall pass. Let's give it time and support our leaders that we have until it is election time. I am a registered Rep., but don't know how I will vote from now on. I have changed in the last four years I tell you. God bless America again is all I can say.

    1. Mitch Rapp profile image61
      Mitch Rappposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      I don't support people who are in direct opposition to what I believe, just not gonna happen!

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    ralwusposted 7 years ago

    I love America. I love my wife. We are opposites in many ways, spiritually as well as politically. I support her 100%. Same with my adult children and so many friends, some who are politicians and judges that are Democrats.

 
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