Look around at the company you keep their a mess! They want "Waldens Pond" even though it's been proven it will never work! It's not fair that the less motivated recieve the same rewards as those who have earned success. If you've learned anything about basic survival get off your ass and quit whining and get to work!
Some of us liberals are too busy to watch Walden's Pond (assuming it's some idiot TV program). Perhaps you could give us an outline. You seem to have time on your hands.
wasn't that that show where everybody had double names and it took a hundred years to say goodnight to each other?
No, I think it's the one with Henry Fonda
Peter Fonda certainly is a liberal or at least he used to be.
Some conservatives want to know as well.
I'm a liberal because I don't like lies, deceit, and selfishness (though there are some in the movement that are).
If you have to ask this question why bother. You have prejudged and categorized a group of people by identifying them as outside your realm of thinking and discarded their value based on it.
You have totally played into the political design of the two parties by polarizing your and others views and therefore eliminating any compromise.
I try to think of myself as a centerist but many shoot that down because they have lost the ability or will to understand the others point or opinion. By doing so you have become a tool of the system and invariably will be in the way instead of helping the situation.
What is Waldens pond?
A book by Thoreau one of my favorites. Also a beautiful pond in Massachusetts good book and great pond.
Wait a minute I am not a liberal.
*looks at the pond* It's not working? Huh.
Adsensestrategies, why are you a liberal?
With all the self proclaimed intellectuals here and you don't know about "Waldens Pond"! Shame on you! Heres a clue, it's not a tv show!
I know! I know!
Sigh. Pretending not to know what something is, is not the same as not knowing what something is... you of ALL forum posters should know this!
Hey I am not an intoolectual either.
i know about Walden's Pond. i just don't know how that applies to so-called liberals. don't conservatives appreciate nature too?
One of the saddest interviews I read was when David Mamet said he could no longer think of himself as a liberal because he could no longer believe that people were basically good. He had reached a point where he believed people were liers, cheats, malicious at heart and needed to treated as dangerous.
http://www.villagevoice.com/2008-03-11/ … d-liberal/
Liberals idea of compassion or "good" is creating a dependent class, I can't see someone never advancing in life as "good"
Wow. That is disheartening. Made me a little sad to read that post.
What's worse is that tiny little whisper deep in my heart almost agrees.
*Screams* "Fight the sadness Artex!! Noooooo"
There are still communites that instill believe in virtues like unselfisness,empathy with the less privileged, respect for others,loyalty to ideals but it is an uphill struggle in an atmosphere of consumerism and greed.
And of course, right wing philosophers promote a view of people as isolated creatures simply trying to get the most that they can from others(game theory etc). To me they are promoting the infant in people- the me me me! As we become more infantile and more isolated sadly we also become more unhappy and more like the creatures David Mamet fears..
Game theory has been popping up a lot in discussions lately. It may be a sign of the appocolypse.
But aren't there two sorts of "right wing." There is another sort, which promotes loyalty to one's community, thrift, industry, decency and respect. Unfortunately, right-wingers who promote this sort of Consevatism have been steam-rollered by others... those who prefer to see corporations prosper over small business and entrepreneurship, for example...
...It's a hijack
Well. I for one vow to hold onto the light as long as I can. And my will is great. Are you with me! *roars!* Empathy! Love!
what do you call it when someone thinks there's good and bad in everyone? that's me.
The duality of life. For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction.
of course some people have more bad (or good) in them than others also.
You eliminate the negative through positive action. Going to the gym, gardening etc...or the opposite conmen, predators
A realist. All but the political fringes believe the same as you.
It's Walden Pond. Just had to say that as a girl from Massachusetts. Carry on...
I think Mamet slipped from one tribal delusion to another. We aren't obliged to do the same. People are as good as circumstances allow them to be. As societies we need to create the opportunities for individuals to live they can be proud of. Conservative values have a place in that. Right wing hate really doesn't help. Silly sentimental liberals don't help either- though they make far better company.
If you like whining!
Yes. He's still purging his self-hatred demons (by swinging to the other extreme).
are those the people with guns who dip snuff and whatnot?
That's certainly one (unfortunate) variety. (Not that the snuff-dipping is to blame...)
Might as well ask conservatives to ask themselves why while you're at it. Liberalism and Conservatism are both to blame for a lot of problems, and even if that weren't the case, it's simply a good thing for everyone to question their own views.
Compassionate Conservatism at its best.
You truly know nothing about being a liberal.
If it's in America, mostly it is all good. Politically speaking. It is the American way. Sure, we have our problems and disagreements, but that is democracy my man. It works.
Amazingly, that is still true. To hear some talk you would think we were on the verge of anihilation.
Ach, well, people tend to get carried away ya know? I have seen a lot and have learned many things, but still America is alive and well, 'cept for our debts. We will get out of this mess too.
It doesn't really matter compared to what the 'greatest' generation went through. I suppose it will be an enormous amount, but look what they did. We can rise above this too.
My god, if one looks at our history, back in the 19th century there was so much corruption in DC. It was cleaned up and then TR had to do some house cleaning as well. Things seem to come in cycles. This too shall pass. Let's give it time and support our leaders that we have until it is election time. I am a registered Rep., but don't know how I will vote from now on. I have changed in the last four years I tell you. God bless America again is all I can say.
I don't support people who are in direct opposition to what I believe, just not gonna happen!
I love America. I love my wife. We are opposites in many ways, spiritually as well as politically. I support her 100%. Same with my adult children and so many friends, some who are politicians and judges that are Democrats.
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